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Subject  :  Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  teitoku
Date  :  30 Nov, 2006 on 09:44
I'm totally new to os/2 and eCS. I've used DOS and win3.1 through XP so I know my way around DOS and a windows-like GUI at least. But I really don't know where apps should be placed, or the best way to launch them (I really don't like this win 3.1 setup they use by default). Can you give some pointers to an eCS newbie?

Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  Cris
Date  :  30 Nov, 2006 on 11:17
Hi teitoku!!


teitoku (30 Nov, 2006 09:44):
I'm totally new to os/2 and eCS. I've used DOS and win3.1 through XP so I know my way around DOS and a windows-like GUI at least. But I really don't know where apps should be placed, or the best way to launch them (I really don't like this win 3.1 setup they use by default). Can you give some pointers to an eCS newbie?

First of all: welcome to the eCS community!

Well, there's not really a "place" where you should be installing applications. You can put them wherever you want (it's the same in Windows, even though they give you a predefined directory to put them in).

The eCS installation creates a "Programs" directory in the boot disk, that you can use for applications in the same vein as the "Program files" folder in Windows. I prefer not to install in the boot disk however, so I created another "Programs" directory in my data disk (another partition).

The way to launch applications... you have plenty of ways: you can launch them from the application folder (for applications that do create a folder with objects during installation), you can use the command line, you can create an icon on the desktop (Windows-like way... I hate it) or drag a shadow (a shortcut in windows-jargon) from the app folder to the desktop, you can create a launchpad (something like a toolbar to launch apps), you can drag a shadow to a free area on the eCenter....

There really are a lot of ways, you should familiarize yourself with the concept of "templates", "program objects" and generally objects. The eCS manual is a good starting point.

Hope to hear from you soon!

Bye
Cris


Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  30 Nov, 2006 on 16:42
Well, another way of how to use and set up OS2 could be to check out the screen shoots found within the gallery section:

http://www.os2world.com/gallery2/v/os2desktop/

This might give you some ideas on how people use and define their system.


Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  30 Nov, 2006 on 17:57

teitoku (30 Nov, 2006 09:44):
I'm totally new to os/2 and eCS. I've used DOS and win3.1 through XP so I know my way around DOS and a windows-like GUI at least. But I really don't know where apps should be placed, or the best way to launch them (I really don't like this win 3.1 setup they use by default). Can you give some pointers to an eCS newbie?


Hi

As you mention eCS I am guessing that you have a version of eCS installed?

Just to disagree slightly with the post by Cris: Current/Recent versions of eCS try to adhere to the eCS File and Directory standard which you can read in full here http://en.ecomstation.ru/showarticle.php?id=92

Basically when you installed eCS you may have set both a Programs and a Home variable. If unsure open the [BootDrive]:\config.sys file and search for PROGRAMS and HOME to find out where you have set these to.

HOME is the place to direct applications to store data files and some applications, especially java apps, will look to store application related data there as well - analogous to Windows use of the current user directory.

PROGRAMS is the place to direct application installers to install to - or install apps there manually - analogous to Windows use of the Program Files directory.

Note: eCS will default to putting these on the boot drive. To enable easier future system upgrades I recommend having at least 1 other disk volume available to put these on. The paths to these locations can be changed in the config.sys file and after a reboot the change will become active.

No, eCS is not currently Multi-User without adding some software but it is planned that the next eCS release, V2.0, will be Multi-User so the above was introduced in the hope that users would eventually get used to the idea prior to the release of V2

Applications that have an installer of some sort will usually create a Desktop Program Object, or Folder containing Program Object(s). You can then move the created Object from the Desktop to another Folder such as Programs to keep the main Desktop uncluttered.

Applications without an installer or that do not create any Objects mean you have to do it manually:-

RMB (Right Mouse Button click) on the file with the .exe ending and select to Create Program Object - I'm sure I will not need to walk you through the rest of the steps


The best way to get to know how to use eCS is simply to use it - but never be afraid to ask questions in the event of problems/glitches/total system failure

Have fun

Pete


Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  teitoku
Date  :  04 Dec, 2006 on 03:00
Interesting read, but...I really don't understand who wrote it. Doesn't seem to be any sort of official documentation, because I'd expect the eComstation people to place the Desktop folder as \home\Desktop rather than x:\Desktop...who exactly is that page meant for?

Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  Tomas
Date  :  04 Dec, 2006 on 13:39
Hello,
I think most eCS / OS/2-User partition their HD in different volumes.
This is what I did.
Volume C: is for the system (base OS)
Volume D: is for the applications.
Volume E: is for data.
Very often (or should I say always) applications create a shadow on the desktop whch I use to drag into the application-folder. So you start the application on drive D: by double-click on the shadow in the application-folder on the desktop.
HTH.
Thomas

Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  gg
Date  :  04 Dec, 2006 on 17:15
Bonjour,


teitoku (30 Nov, 2006 09:44):
I'm totally new to os/2 and eCS.

Welcome !


But I really don't know where apps should be placed, or the best way to launch them

As you know, you can put your programs whereever you want.
Like Pete, I like to put my applications in a separate Volume ("partition"), and my data on anothjer one, excepted for a few ones more or less linked to the system currently runinng (XWP, Screensaver, ...), wich I put on the boot drive.

Many OS/2-eCS programs do not necessarily *require* to be "installed". Just unzip them in a directory of your choice, and make a shadow of the EXE on your desktop (or let the install.cmd script do it for you). This is the magic of OS/2-eCS. But some of them may require changing a few lines in the eCS configuration plain text file named CONFIG.SYS (for adding their path to one or more environment variables, a device driver, and/or new environment variables). It should be mentionned in a README file somewhere in the distribution archive.
Warning : the CONFIG.SYS file is essential to eCS : don't mess up
with it, *do* make backups of it !.
2 other files are essentials for eCS : OS2.INI and
OS2SYS.INI. These two files can be compared to the
Windows registry. Backing these 2 files up is not very obvious,
since they are in use by the currently running system. It has
to be done "before" the system is loaded or using special tools
(like IMPINI). ]

Other programs come in a "WarpIn" package for wich the "latest" WarpIn (1.0.13) should be installed. This will take care of the copy of every files, of the changes to be made to CONFIG.SYS or to the WPS and of the "dependencies". WarpIn ("Local system" \ "Install/Remove" \ "WarpIn") maintains a database with all the programs installed and allows you to set up your own default place for new programs ("WarpIn" \ "Default directories...").

Some programs are using "home made" installer, but you'll be prompt where the files should be placed and if the CONFIG.SYS file will be touched.

In any case, if you know where you put you belongings, you should be able to find them, right ?

Have a nice day.


Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  04 Dec, 2006 on 17:19

teitoku (04 Dec, 2006 03:00):
Interesting read, but...I really don't understand who wrote it. Doesn't seem to be any sort of official documentation, because I'd expect the eComstation people to place the Desktop folder as \home\Desktop rather than x:\Desktop...who exactly is that page meant for?


Hi

Desktop is located at (usually) BootDrive:\Desktop because that is the way IBM put OS/2 together - doubt if IBM considered letting every user have their own Desktop.

I would expect Desktop to end up in \Username\Desktop, or similar, if eCS does become a multiuser operating system.

Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:Where do you install apps in eCS and how do YOU launch them?
Author  :  gg
Date  :  04 Dec, 2006 on 17:30

teitoku (04 Dec, 2006 03:00):
Interesting read, but...I really don't understand who wrote it. Doesn't seem to be any sort of official documentation, because I'd expect the eComstation people to place the Desktop folder as \home\Desktop rather than x:\Desktop...who exactly is that page meant for?

In an Unix environment (i.e. multiuser OS) yes. Keep in mind that eCS relies on OS/2 wich was NOT designed as a multiuser OS right at the begining.

"Desktop" is indeed a special folder wich resides on the root of the boot drive. This is where all the current Desktop's objects will point to.

Because many Linux programs are ported to OS/2-eCS, it is still interesting to keep (some of) its tree philosophy.

Have a nice day.
--
Guillaume Gay


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