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Subject  :  System Error
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  22 Feb, 2007 on 17:13
Hi
Finally received eCs. Trying to install on my laptop/notebook. Have BIOS set to boot from CD-Rom. Turn system on, nothing happens except some rubbing noises from the CDROM. System finally boots into OS/2 from the Hard Drive. CDROM drive is assigned to H. When I try to read from the CDROM, I get

"System Error-Drive H
SYS0039
The H: Device is not ready"

I have tried reading the CDROM by going into an OS/2 window and physically changing the drive to H:. No luck that way, either.

Why would the system not ready the CDROM? It does this no matter what CDROM I put in the drive.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Dennis

PS--The printer still does not work. I have zipped my config.sys file, but don't know how to upload it to this forum.


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  22 Feb, 2007 on 17:41
Hi

Sounds like a drive error; possibly the CD drive has failed or is not connected correctly.

Can you test a CD in another system to check that the CD is readable and then try again in your laptop?

Regards

Pete


PS Not sure what printer you mean


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  22 Feb, 2007 on 17:57
Hi, Pete
I put the CD in the CDROM drive of my desktop system with Warp 4 and it was read just fine. Showed all the files on the CD. The notebook also is a pure Warp 4 system.

The printer is a Canon iP90 PIXMA which connects to a USB port. Unfortunately, the only printer driver on my notebook is IBMNull. When I ask the system to print, it tells me to put paper in the printer--when there is already paper in the printer--so I have to abort the print job. If it's adking for paper, that tells me the notebook realizes the printer is there--I think--but doesn't know what to do with it. I want to install eCs on the notebook primarily for its updated printer drivers--esp Omni.drv.


Pete (22 Feb, 2007 17:41):
Hi

Sounds like a drive error; possibly the CD drive has failed or is not connected correctly.

Can you test a CD in another system to check that the CD is readable and then try again in your laptop?

Regards

Pete


PS Not sure what printer you mean



Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 02:33

mclarenm8a (22 Feb, 2007 17:57):
Hi, Pete
I put the CD in the CDROM drive of my desktop system with Warp 4 and it was read just fine. Showed all the files on the CD. The notebook also is a pure Warp 4 system.

The printer is a Canon iP90 PIXMA which connects to a USB port. Unfortunately, the only printer driver on my notebook is IBMNull. When I ask the system to print, it tells me to put paper in the printer--when there is already paper in the printer--so I have to abort the print job. If it's adking for paper, that tells me the notebook realizes the printer is there--I think--but doesn't know what to do with it. I want to install eCs on the notebook primarily for its updated printer drivers--esp Omni.drv.



Hi Dennis

It does sound as though the CD drive has failed - or maybe drivers are not installed correctly.

When 1st booting does the system BIOS report the CD drive? If Yes then I suspect you need to have a check through the config.sys file.

As regards the printer you probably want to try the i550/i850/i950 drivers from the omni driver pack - I do not know of any reason why you should not either use the omni driver from the eCS CD or login at ecomstation.com and download that driver.

Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 02:40
Hey, Pete
When booting, the system DOES report the CDROM drive--yes.

What am I looking for in my config.sys file?

Thanks for the tip on the drivers.

Dennis


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  cyberspittle cyberspittle@yahoo.com
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 05:22
If it is a pure Warp 4 system, do you have the /w switch to read Joliet? Can you read the CD-ROM in another OS?

Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 13:30
Ok, I'm confused. What is the /w switch, how is it used, where is it used, what is Joliet? Yes, XP reads it. I'm not a techie/developer, engineer, etc. I'm just a low-tech guy who was turned on to OS/2 14 years ago and likes its stability.


cyberspittle (23 Feb, 2007 05:22):
If it is a pure Warp 4 system, do you have the /w switch to read Joliet? Can you read the CD-ROM in another OS?

Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 16:01

mclarenm8a (23 Feb, 2007 02:40):
Hey, Pete
When booting, the system DOES report the CDROM drive--yes.

What am I looking for in my config.sys file?

Thanks for the tip on the drivers.

Dennis


Hi Dennis


If the system "sees" the CD drive then you have either a driver misconfiguration or it is still possible that there is a hardware problem with the drive - possibly a broken internal ribbon cable. How old is the drive?

Well the answer to "What am I looking for in my config.sys file?" is whatever is not quite right as regards IDE and CD drivers

This is always a bit difficult to diagnose from a distance without knowing the contents of the config.sys file.

As suggested in another post you may need a /W on the line with the cdfs.ifs driver eg:-

IFS=H:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /W
(change H: to suit your system)

You could post Device= and Basedev= lines in the hope that someone may spot any other error(s) that could cause CD reading problems.

Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 17:53
Hi.
2 questions:

1. what does /W do on the IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS line? The line already has /Q.

2. Before I manually type out all 55 of my DEVICE= & BASEDEV= lines, I have zipped my Config.Sys file. How do I upload it to this forum?

Thanks for all the help up to this point.

Dennis


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  DavidG
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 18:12
[quote]mclarenm8a (22 Feb, 2007 17:13):
Hi
Finally received eCs. Trying to install on my laptop/notebook. Have BIOS set to boot from CD-Rom. Turn system on, nothing happens except some rubbing noises from the CDROM. System finally boots into OS/2 from the Hard Drive. CDROM quote]

To begin, what version of eCS are you trying to install?

Is this a eCS CD you downloaded and created yourself?

If it is, did you finalize the CD after burning it?

If you finalized it, it may be that the download had errors and you need to download the iso file again.

DavidG


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 18:36
Hi, David!
eCS version 1.2 on 2 eCS CDs. I did not download and create. Biggest problem is that when I go to read the CD on my notebook, I get a 'drive not ready' system error. I have already been able to read the CD on my desktop OS2 system and on an XP system without a not ready condition.

Dennis


DavidG (23 Feb, 2007 18:12):
[quote]mclarenm8a (22 Feb, 2007 17:13):
Hi
Finally received eCs. Trying to install on my laptop/notebook. Have BIOS set to boot from CD-Rom. Turn system on, nothing happens except some rubbing noises from the CDROM. System finally boots into OS/2 from the Hard Drive. CDROM quote]

To begin, what version of eCS are you trying to install?

Is this a eCS CD you downloaded and created yourself?

If it is, did you finalize the CD after burning it?

If you finalized it, it may be that the download had errors and you need to download the iso file again.

DavidG



Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 19:36

mclarenm8a (23 Feb, 2007 02:40):
Hey, Pete
When booting, the system DOES report the CDROM drive--yes.

What am I looking for in my config.sys file?

Thanks for the tip on the drivers.

Dennis


The cd drive could be working just enough to be detected but not be able to used to read a cd. Have you tried another cd drive? What make and model notebook do you have?

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Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  DavidG
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 19:37
[quote]mclarenm8a (23 Feb, 2007 18:36):
Hi, David!
eCS version 1.2 on 2 eCS CDs. I did not download and create. Biggest problem is that when I go to read the CD on my notebook, I get a 'drive not ready' system error. I have already been able to read the CD on my desktop OS2 system and on an XP system without a not ready condition.

Dennis

If I remember correctly, eCS 1.2 came with 3 CDs. Does the CD you are installing say "Installation Disk" on its label? It should. Then there should have been a Disk 1 and then Disk 2 also.

Have you tried another CD on your notebook CDROM reader to make sure that the CDROM reader is working correctly? We need to determine that it is not a hardware problem.

Did you tried installing on your desktop computer? You don't have to complete the install. You just have to go to the first menu. If you make it this far, there is not a problem with the disk. If you don't, then the disk could be defective.

DavidG


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  DavidG
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 20:08
One more thought. This depends on the age of the notebook and CDROM reader. eCS had been shipped on burned CDs. I don't know if this is still the case. It could be that your CDROM reader can't read information from the burned CD.

DavidG


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  DavidG
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 20:12

DavidG (23 Feb, 2007 20:0:
One more thought. This depends on the age of the notebook and CDROM reader. eCS had been shipped on burned CDs. I don't know if this is still the case. It could be that your CDROM reader can't read information from the burned CD.

DavidG


Try putting a blank CDR into and reading it and see if you get the same error message.

DavidG


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  DavidG
Date  :  23 Feb, 2007 on 21:09

DavidG (23 Feb, 2007 20:12):

DavidG (23 Feb, 2007 20:0:
One more thought. This depends on the age of the notebook and CDROM reader. eCS had been shipped on burned CDs. I don't know if this is still the case. It could be that your CDROM reader can't read information from the burned CD.

DavidG


Try putting a blank CDR into and reading it and see if you get the same error message.

DavidG


If the CDROM is silver on the data side, it more than likely pressed. If it is another color like purple, blue, yellow, black, etc., it is probably a burned CD.


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  24 Feb, 2007 on 00:59

mclarenm8a (23 Feb, 2007 17:53):
Hi.
2 questions:

1. what does /W do on the IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS line? The line already has /Q.

2. Before I manually type out all 55 of my DEVICE= & BASEDEV= lines, I have zipped my Config.Sys file. How do I upload it to this forum?

Thanks for all the help up to this point.

Dennis


Hi Dennis

From the Command Reference:-

"/W Supports CD-ROM in the Win-32 (Joliet) format. The names are in Unicode and allow long names in mixed case. If you do not specify this option, only the shortened form of the file name shows."

In my experience some discs are difficult or impossible to read without this switch; but I do suspect hardware failure as a more probable cause of your problem with reading CDs.

I've never tried to upload anything to this forum and do not see an obvious way of attaching zip files...

Why not just use good old copy'n'paste to post the device and basedev lines rather than typing them out?

Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:System Error
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  24 Feb, 2007 on 01:02

Pete (24 Feb, 2007 00:59):


I've never tried to upload anything to this forum and do not see an obvious way of attaching zip files...



Just to correct myself a little late: There is a rather obvious option of "Preview your post and/or attach a file?" when editing a message

Regards

Pete


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