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Subject  :  Hardware/Soetware
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  11 May, 2007 on 03:55
Hi! Just me, the non-techie again!

How do I get eCs to recognize a removable storage stick?


Is there any way to run 32-bit windoze apps such as Quickbooks under eCs?

Thanks again for all your help.

Dennis


Subject  :  Re:Hardware/Soetware
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  11 May, 2007 on 12:32
Hi,

I'm assuming from your question that you have already tried to use a stick and that this has failed... so, also assuming you are talking about a USB device, can you tell us what version of eCS you are running and what capacity the stick has? And whether or not that thinggy works on "different" opérating systems...?
Can you also mention a little about what happens when you attach the stick? e.g. open the drives folder, then attach stick -> does something show up?

As for the 32bit windoze: That's hard to tell. Some apps work with the help of ODIN, others need looking into them and some most probably never will work...

regards,
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:Hardware/Soetware
Author  :  mclarenm8a m6a1gt@centurytel.net
Date  :  11 May, 2007 on 14:31
Hi!
Thanks for the reply.

I'm running eCS 1.2R. When I click on the 'Drives" icon, tis is what shows up:

A floppy
B floppy (not really there--I only have 1 floppy)
C HDD
D Logical Partition
E " "
F " "
G " "
H floppy (no it's not)
LVM

I click on H and nothing shows--doesn't even open a window. The dfsee.zip file is on the stick. It shows up as a removable disk when I attach the stick to my windoz system. but not my eCS notebook.

I would like to uninstall B & H since they are not physically there, but I would like the stick to show on my notebook.....

Dennis


Subject  :  Re:Hardware/Soetware
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  11 May, 2007 on 16:49
Hi Dennis,

you're welcome.
The problem is that I think H: is the drive letter assigned to your stick... and that it's rather a file system (or drive "geometry") problem that preventing eCS from "dealing" with the drive.

I have a 512MiB and a 1GiB stick here, both are using FAT16 and are accessible by winXP. The 512 one works like a charm in eCS as well (although win's long filenames are trunc'ed, that's why I zip most of the win stuff onto the drive with a short filename for the zip) but the 1 GiB model acts just the same as with yours: Useless in eCS.
Sadly, I didn't had the time to play around with my config since I first realized that issue, but I believe that it's because of the "geometry" of the 1GiB+ thumb drives.

Well, anyway, the first thing to check is what filesystem was used for the (pre)format of the thumb drive. Attach the stick to a windows system and select "properties" from the drives context menu in "my computer" - that should reveal the file system. In most cases that should read "FAT". If not, you've already found the cause. Reformatting it to FAT (LOSS OF DATA!) will most probably make it accessible/useable in eCS.

If it's FAT but still not useable, you might need to look for threads round here about "large thumb drives" etc... I didn't find out so far, how to circumvent that. I seem to remember a guy from holland (or belgium...?) once did a driver/tool (can't remember) that is able to deal with "the non-standard way" in which these drives are handled... but I can't remember... something with "512 bytes per sector" (or not) etc. might also be involved... I'll look after that.

Keep us updated with what's going on...

Regards,
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:Hardware/Soetware
Author  :  tex
Date  :  11 May, 2007 on 18:18
Using Windows, copy your data on your removable to another location in case something goes wrong. That way it won't be lost.

Start LVMGUI. It is found in either the System setup folder or the

Programs > Utils folder

Select the Removable drive and select

Volume > Create non-bootable volume > Create compatibility volume

and save.

Now try reading your drive.

It is my understanding that Windows does not follow the standards for creating partitions. If the above does not work, then try destroying the partition with LVMGUI. Once destroyed, create the parttition with LVMGUI. Make it a primary partition.

DO NOT RECREATE THE PARITION USING WINDOWS. REMEMBER THAT WINDOWS DOES NOT FOLLOW THE CORRECT RULES AND YOU WILL GAIN NOTHING. THIS CAN LEAD TO OTHER COMPLICATIONS.

WINDOWS CAN ALSO BE USED TO DESTROY THE PARTITION, JUST NOT TO CREATE IT. EITHER LVMGUI OR DFSEE FOR THE CREATION OF THE PARITION.

Then do the

Volume > Create non-bootable volume > Create compatibility volume

If using WindowsXP and the removable drive is

>256MB and less than 32GB, you can format the drive FAT32. Anything smaller or larger, you will need DFSee to format FAT32.

Then you need the latest FAT32 driver. The latest is a testcase version (the 0.911 driver with fix to increase the read speed of the drive) and can be found in the Yahoo FAT32USER group files section

fat32_20060608.wpi

One has to apply to the group, but this is to keep out the SPAM. The advantage of using FAT32 - It is a great cross platform filesystem and supports long names.


Subject  :  Re:Hardware/Soetware
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  11 May, 2007 on 20:38

mclarenm8a (11 May, 2007 03:55):
Hi! Just me, the non-techie again!

How do I get eCs to recognize a removable storage stick?


Is there any way to run 32-bit windoze apps such as Quickbooks under eCs?

Thanks again for all your help.

Dennis



Hi Dennis

USB drives can be a bit of a pain at times - especially if the drive has been setup/partitioned using a Windows Only tool.

Most of the flash drives/sticks that I have tried have needed either the drive reformatted with fat16 (smaller than 2Gb) or the existing partition(s) deleted and new created (>2Gb) using either LVM or DFSee followed by a format using whatever file system.

Sometimes the USB drivers need a little tuning, can I recommend USBcfg for that purpose http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/usbcfgb7a.zip

The above contains a potentially useful USB Removables FAQ linked into the Help.


Regarding win32 apps: some run with Odin (but may only work with a specific version) and some run using ar5os2.exe (acrobat5) as an alternative to the Odin pe.exe file. Some do not work or work well enough to use, others run fine. As regards Quickbooks you will just have to try.

Regards

Pete


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