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Subject  :  eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  13 Feb, 2007 on 22:52
Hi

I'm trying to install eCs 1.2 on my HP laptop with a 60 GB SATA harddisk.

At first eCs could not see the harddisk but after I created a boot update disk with the latest Danis506 driver, it is seen and can be partitioned.

I have installed bootmanager, and created a bootable logical partition of 1 GB.

The installation runs phase 1 without any problems.

At the reboot I get the following error from BootManager : The partition is not formatted.

If I reboot from the CD, and exit to a commandline, I can change to the C drive, and it contains all the files and directories I would expect, even the new Danis506 !

Any ideas ? Please help !

Kim Foder


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  tex
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 05:36
Is this eCS 1.2 or eCS 1.2MR?

Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 08:53
Hi Tex

Sorry, it's eCs 1.2R (or Media refresh).


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  dljone9 dljone9@os2world.com
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 10:58

kif (14 Feb, 2007 08:53):
Hi Tex

Sorry, it's eCs 1.2R (or Media refresh).


You do set that d: partition as "installable" via LVM, correct??

You might try dropping down to a command line first, then doing a
format d: /fs:hpfs


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 19:49
Hi

No, I cannot select "make installable" in the lvm menu, mo matter what size i select from 200 mb to 8 gb !

I can select "make startable" and the installation accepts this for the installation drive.

The partition is selectable in the boot manager, but (as said) cannot start.


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  dljone9 dljone9@os2world.com
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 21:08
Have you previous experience w/ LVM? You are creating a
partition, assigning it the D: drive letter, creating a Volume,
then proceeding??

Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 21:58
No previous experiences with lvm.

Creating partition assigning letter C: and proceding


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  dljone9 dljone9@os2world.com
Date  :  14 Feb, 2007 on 23:03

kif (14 Feb, 2007 21:5:
No previous experiences with lvm.

Creating partition assigning letter C: and proceding


That might be it, then - creating the volume...an extra step that
FDISK did not require. You should be able to install on D: if you
create the volume.


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  El Vato
Date  :  15 Feb, 2007 on 04:06

kif (13 Feb, 2007 22:52):
Hi

I'm trying to install eCs 1.2 on my HP laptop with a 60 GB SATA harddisk.

At first eCs could not see the harddisk but after I created a boot update disk with the latest Danis506 driver, it is seen and can be partitioned.


Like in the "old" days, if you are creating a boot update diskette set (i.e., Diskette0, diskette1, and diskette2) to install your OS/2 (aka eCS), you need to add the following line prior to the last line of your CONFIG.SYS in your diskette1:

SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1

(make sure to use a text editor to save your changes and NOT a word processor) that statement ensures that ANY driver that you add to the floppy diskette1 and/or diskettte2 (your Danis506 driver, for instance) overwrites that of your CDROM media (that according to you, does not "see" your hard disk).

Additionally, I am assuming that you are using an initial 3 diskette installation set and proceed from your CDROM device afterwards. If I am wrong, please read on for a procedure on replacing your CDROM media IBM1S506.ADD witha that of DANIS506.ADD at the end of the first installation phase BUT prior to rebooting your machine.


kif (13 Feb, 2007 22:52):
I have installed bootmanager, and created a bootable logical partition of 1 GB.

The installation runs phase 1 without any problems.

At the reboot I get the following error from BootManager : The partition is not formatted.


...and the utility is correct because the driver that did not "see" the 60GB hard disk is active --not the Danis506 that you used to partition your hard disk.

As an alternative to the above floppy diskette1 CONFIG.SYS modification, at the end of your phase one installation, press F3 to go into an OS/2 command prompt. Locate your IBM1S506.ADD device driver.

Insert your floppy with your Danis506.add equivalent and COPY OVER the IBM1S506.ADD driver.

As a specific example, assuming that your IBM1S506.ADD is located in your directory X:\OS2\BOOT (or X:\ECS\BOOT) and X represents your actual OS/2 installation drive, i.e., drive C: or D::

CD X:\OS2\BOOT

COPY IBM1S506.ADD IBM1S506.ADDBKUP

ERASE IBM1S506.ADD

COPY A:\DANIS506.ADD IBM1S506.ADD

EXIT

now you may reboot your machine to pick up on the second phase of the OS/2 installation because your updated driver is active and NOT the old one from your CDROM media during your installation phase.

Of course, I am assuming that you only need one driver; but if there are more, perform a similar procedure as above.


kif (13 Feb, 2007 22:52):
If I reboot from the CD, and exit to a commandline, I can change to the C drive, and it contains all the files and directories I would expect, even the new Danis506 !

Note that even if Danis506.add is there BUT not referenced in your OS/2 CONFIG.SYS, you will still be rebooting with your old IBM1S506.ADD since that driver is what CONFIG.SYS will be referencing.

It is best practice to rename the DANIS506.ADD to IBM1S506.ADD because even if your second installation phase is successful, the third one relating to networking installation will fail.


kif (13 Feb, 2007 22:52):
Any ideas ? Please help !

Kim Foder


You may custom update your installation media subsequently with UpdateCD < http://xenia.sote.hu/~kadzsol/rexx/sajat/updcd.htm >
so that you will not experience reinstallation problems into your laptop.

UpdateCD appears somewhat complex --hence familiarize yourself with the instructions; notwithstanding, even if you only update the single Danis506.add, your new bootable UpdateCD media will beat your existing one --at least for your laptop.


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  15 Feb, 2007 on 10:35
dljone9

Do you mean I should create a C and D volume, or just the D ?


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  15 Feb, 2007 on 10:48
El Vato

>Like in the "old" days, if you are creating a boot update diskette set

I'm not, I'm booting directly from the eCs CD, in eCs 1.2 I can create a diskette with the label "BOOT_UPDATE" or a text file called "BOOT_UPD.TXT" then everything from this disk will be copied into the os2\boot directory as part of the installation process.

eCs uses the Danis506 driver as default, so the config.sys is correct, and the latest driver is located in the os2\boot directory.

>...and the utility is correct because the driver that did not
>"see" the 60GB hard disk is active --not the Danis506 that
>you used to partition your hard disk.

At the time of the boot manager, all disk access should be via the bios, as no form for drivers has been loaded yet !

If the driver was missing, the boot process should start, and the infamous "The operating system cannot operate your harddisk" message should show.

But thanks for your input.


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  dljone9 dljone9@os2world.com
Date  :  15 Feb, 2007 on 22:28

kif (15 Feb, 2007 10:35):
dljone9

Do you mean I should create a C and D volume, or just the D ?


Just create a D: - with this new LVM, you can assign drive letters as
you see fit...it is not a matter of LVM requiring you to go in sequence.

I would create a C: though, who knows - you may want to install
another OS or use it as a file partition or who knows...


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  El Vato
Date  :  16 Feb, 2007 on 08:19

kif (15 Feb, 2007 10:4:
El Vato

>Like in the "old" days, if you are creating a boot update diskette set

I'm not, I'm booting directly from the eCs CD, in eCs 1.2 I can create a diskette with the label "BOOT_UPDATE" or a text file called "BOOT_UPD.TXT" then everything from this disk will be copied into the os2\boot directory as part of the installation process.

eCs uses the Danis506 driver as default, so the config.sys is correct, and the latest driver is located in the os2\boot directory.

>...and the utility is correct because the driver that did not
>"see" the 60GB hard disk is active --not the Danis506 that
>you used to partition your hard disk.

At the time of the boot manager, all disk access should be via the bios, as no form for drivers has been loaded yet !


Evidently, that is only an assumption --as there is an indication to the operating system to boot from the installable partition during the second phase of the installation, i.e., the target that you can not set as installable.

You might even have an preexisting WinXX partition table that does not allow you to set your partition installable. Those are extremely hard to remove with LVM (if at all). You have to use either its creator WinXX or a bootable Linux CD to do so.

Pressing F5 when inside the LVM utility will give you some insight on the physical partitions existent in your hard disk. It will also tell you which partitions are Primary and which are Logical, which are Available and which are "In Use."


kif (15 Feb, 2007 10:4:
If the driver was missing, the boot process should start, and the infamous "The operating system cannot operate your harddisk" message should show.

I mentioned "referenced" not "missing"...i.e., if the driver was downleveled to the original one that did not "see" your hard disk, you would not necessarily have that infamousity across your dark screeen.

Anyhow, hope that dljone9's recommendation brings you success to your endeavor as there appears to be several possible target entities in your hard disk.


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  28 Feb, 2007 on 10:50
>I would create a C: though, who knows - you may want to install
>another OS or use it as a file partition or who knows...

I now have tried to create a d: drive with and without a c: drive, with the same result

I'm rather busy rebuilding my house right now, so (for now) I have installed ubuntu, but will try again later.

Kim


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  28 Feb, 2007 on 11:30

Evidently, that is only an assumption

Yes and no. In my experience, drivers are loaded after the OS/2 or eCs splash screen is shown, and in this case I do not get anything !


You might even have an preexisting WinXX partition

All existing partitions was removed, using the installed XP when I got the laptop, afterwards I have deleted and created countless partitions using ubuntu and eCs. When I start I delete every partition (F5 in LVM shows me an empty disk), install bootmanager, create a logical partition of up to 2 GB, and try to install on that one.

I have tried to create a primary, and install eCs without a boot manager, then i get a message telling me the BIOS could not find an operating system !


I mentioned "referenced" not "missing"... i.e., if the driver was downleveled to the original one

Yes, but the driver isn't downleveled, it's the latest one, size date and time is the one from the floppy !

Thanks for your input, when I get some spare time, I will try again, and post my results here.

Kim


Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  Andi
Date  :  28 Feb, 2007 on 12:45
Is there a BIOS option for SATA? I had to set such option to 'compatibility' when installing eCS on a Thinkpad.

Subject  :  Re:eCs installation problems
Author  :  tex
Date  :  01 Mar, 2007 on 03:28

kif (28 Feb, 2007 11:31):

Evidently, that is only an assumption

Yes and no. In my experience, drivers are loaded after the OS/2 or eCs splash screen is shown, and in this case I do not get anything !


You might even have an preexisting WinXX partition

All existing partitions was removed, using the installed XP when I got the laptop, afterwards I have deleted and created countless partitions using ubuntu and eCs. When I start I delete every partition (F5 in LVM shows me an empty disk), install bootmanager, create a logical partition of up to 2 GB, and try to install on that one.

I have tried to create a primary, and install eCs without a boot manager, then i get a message telling me the BIOS could not find an operating system !


I mentioned "referenced" not "missing"... i.e., if the driver was downleveled to the original one

Yes, but the driver isn't downleveled, it's the latest one, size date and time is the one from the floppy !

Thanks for your input, when I get some spare time, I will try again, and post my results here.

Kim



I can't remember what type of partition you are trying to install to: primary or extended logical partition. I had an HP laptop that would not install eCS 1.2 to a primary partition. On the 2nd phase boot, I would get an error message. However, if I made the paritition an extended logical partition, the installation would complete. I installed twice on two different hard drives. Both times, eCS would not install unless the partition was an extended logical partition. Windows was on the first primary, followed by eCS on an extended logical partition. One time, I had Boot Manager in the middle of all the parititions. Another I had it at the end of the parititons. In both cases, it worked fine.

DavidG


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