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Subject  :  Bad Trouble
Author  :  Trident
Date  :  04 Apr, 2007 on 15:16
Hi everyong. I've had a few posts on here, got some help
some questions were never answered..it happens..
Big problem hit my eCS1.2 machine 2 days ago.
I booted up and got a message from "Snap Driver" about
it being out of date or something like that, said it was
reverting to vga, so OK, no big deal, only thing it never finished
the boot. I waited for about 10 min, then rebooted, the
system still would not boot to the screen. it always hangs
right after the c:\pmshell.exe. I then rebooted into the
recovery screen and hit (reset) VGA, and the system
again stopped right after (pmshell.exe)... so I again reboot
went into recovery screen, and hit (1) last saved archive..
still no desktop... I tried all 3 of the recovered archives plus
the original...and still hangs at (pmshell). Worse I can not
reinstall eCS1.2 because my registration floppy was damaged
by my old floppy...
I also tried makeini that did not work...think I tried everything
I know of or heard of, even going back to my old OS2 book
anyone have any suggestions
Best
Dave
ps: does anyone know were in eCS1.2 the registration is
I could try and make another floppy and get going again.
right now I had to build a windoz box to get on line..damn
funny though, I started up my laptop knowing I have a good
eCS1.2 on it..but when I went looking for my wireless card
I remembered I had lent it to my Sister in Jan, when she was
here...and she forgot to send it back to me...damn..
anyway...any suggestion
Best
Dave

Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  Fahrvenugen
Date  :  04 Apr, 2007 on 16:57
The easiest way to get the eCS registration code back is to log into your account on http://www.ecomstation.com/
Under the User Profile section you can download your registration key.

Hope this helps


Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  mobybrick
Date  :  05 Apr, 2007 on 01:04
Hi,

Please try two things, one at a time:

1. Use the ALT-F1 trick when the 'ecs' blob appears at first boot to re-select VGA mode. Reboot and see if it works.

2. Next, use the ALT-F1 trick when the 'ecs' blob appears at first boot to select to boot to the command-line. Go into the \OS2\DLL directory. Make a 'backup' sub-directory, and move all PMI*.* files into the backup subfolder. Reboot, and you should now be OK.

The PMI files sometimes prevent VGA mode on some PCs, especially laptops.

Regards,
Moby.


Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  Trident
Date  :  05 Apr, 2007 on 19:28
thanks to both of you.
Forgot about online registration...been along time
I did do the F1 trick and went thru everything I could think of
even back to the original install...
Snap really ate my desktop
anyway i've got the reg code will be at least reinstalling that part
Is there a backup system for eCS now...I mean one that works
and does not take a puter geek to figure out???
Best
Dave

Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  mobybrick
Date  :  05 Apr, 2007 on 23:02
Did you remove the PMI files?

Does the desktop background or colour appear, or does the cursor simply continue to flash when the system loads PMSHELL?


Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  07 Apr, 2007 on 00:33
Hi Dave

" I booted up and got a message from "Snap Driver" about
it being out of date or something like that"£

Yes, you have a problem.

As SNAP is licensed by eCS for inclusion as the video driver for most chipsets it should never display an "out of date" message.

I suggest a download of SNAP318 from ecomstation. As someone else has already said you can retrieve your Registration details there as well.

Boot to a command line and install SNAP318.

A likely cause of failing to display the Desktop after a successful boot is a munged os2.ini or os2sys.ini file(s) - not sure if that would also be responsible for the SNAP "out of date" message but could be if SNAP stores any Reg detail in os2.ini

If you have any backups of those files compare the current file sizes against the backups and, if the current files seem small in comparison I suggest replacing them with the backup version(s).


Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  tex
Date  :  07 Apr, 2007 on 18:38

Trident (04 Apr, 2007 15:16):
Big problem hit my eCS1.2 machine 2 days ago.
I booted up and got a message from "Snap Driver" about
it being out of date or something like that, said it was
reverting to vga, so OK, no big deal, only thing it never finished
the boot. I waited for about 10 min, then rebooted, the
system still would not boot to the screen. it always hangs
right after the c:\pmshell.exe. I then rebooted into the
recovery screen and hit (reset) VGA, and the system
again stopped right after (pmshell.exe)... so I again reboot
went into recovery screen, and hit (1) last saved archive..
still no desktop... I tried all 3 of the recovered archives plus
the original...and still hangs at (pmshell). Worse I can not
reinstall eCS1.2 because my registration floppy was damaged
by my old floppy...

Dave


This was a problem with eCS 1.0,1.1, and 1.2. This has since been fixed in eCS 1.2MR and eCS 2.0 beta I believe. I first discovered this problem when using the gengradd driver. Here is what I originally posted to ecs bugtracker.

A while back, I posted to the eCS bugtracker that the early betas were hanging at the PMSHELL.EXE. I was able to track the problem down to one file, the

bvhsvga.dll---26848 bytes---2001/09/10

By replacing this file with a later one dated

bvhsvga.dll---33216 bytes---2002/08/28

the problem disappeared.

You closed the bug report stating that the earlier file had been replaced with the later one. Actually, when you go with the default install using the SDD driver, the later one is installed as expected.

However, if one chooses the gengradd driver over the SDD driver, the gengradd installation installs the earlier bvghsvga.dll. As a result, on some machines such as mine, it stops at the PMSHELL.EXE.

With the VGA driver, one may need to replace the bvhvga.dll also.

The problem is, if one doesn't have a maintenance partition with these updated dlls, the fix cannot be applied. That is why I backed up these two dlls when I used earlier versions of eCS.

David

David


Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  El Vato
Date  :  08 Apr, 2007 on 07:33

Trident (04 Apr, 2007 15:16):
Hi everyong. I've had a few posts on here, got some help
some questions were never answered..it happens..
Big problem hit my eCS1.2 machine 2 days ago.
I booted up and got a message from "Snap Driver" about
it being out of date or something like that,
[...]

SciTech SNAP video drivers for OS/2 install an hidden system file in the root of your OS/2 installation drive: IO32.SYS

If the above mentioned file is tampered with and/or can not be found by the SNAP routine at boot time (possibly it was not copied over from your previous hard drive by your
XCOPY /H /O /T /S /E /R /V procedure and/or was clobbered during an system issue that you described elsewhere as a result of your migration) you will get the message that you describe and associated symptoms.

As an example, when SNAP is activated by an user, that file referenced is the only one that changes to reflect the licensee information and extend the "life" of the trial driver beyond the grace period.

On the bright side of your experience, by reinstalling your OS/2 you will get stability of your system. Migrations from dissimilar hardware simply introduce instability variables that will return and mess your OS/2 --irrespective of the mere opinion of others.

Best !


Subject  :  Re:Bad Trouble
Author  :  Trident
Date  :  09 Apr, 2007 on 14:55
end of this thread.
Hello all, thanks for the assistance...nothing I tried worked...
so I just did a format of the drive...and reinstalled eCS.
only takes a minute, luckly except for a few files that are not
eCS system files I can rebuild my desktop in minutes.
But I think there is a problem with the original video drivers
that eCS installes. My desktop is slow, ie: mouse movments
and draging windows around is jerky, except for those inside another
folders..scrolling in firefox is sticky....
Thinking about it now, I think this is what started the problem,
I had reset the VGA following the prescribed method, boot
Alt F1, F3....
then the system will not reboot, even if an archived save is
used...luckly one of my other tricks is after I have my first stable
and mostly updated desktop I boot to the install CD and do and
xcopy from c: to d:...then boot to c: and make changes to the
d: config.sys file making sure all the pointers in this case (c:)
are changed to (d:)...then I reboot to D: to make sure everything
works correctly......well last night I again tried reboot with
F3 and again at the pmshell, she stopped loading...
this time I waited for about 20min..just incase, then I booted to
to a cd and did a xcopy back from d:///
now i'm up and running...with some extra work.
So does anyone have any suggestions about this new video
problem? how can I reset the video driver without again loosing
my desktop
Best
Dave

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