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Subject  :  CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  17 Aug, 2001 on 22:52
I just ordered a cd-rw drive from http://www.tigerdirect.com. It was on sale for $69. It is made by Philips. Is there OS/2 software that can be used with a cd-rw drive?

Will it be possible to create an installation cd-rom (ver 4) with fixpaks installed?


OS/2 Warp-ed to the very end.

Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  17 Aug, 2001 on 23:20
Guess that either RSJ Writer or CDrecord/2 should do the jobb. Guess that it is an IDE drive? I don't think that You should have any headache to get it to work.

//Kim


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  pipes
Date  :  17 Aug, 2001 on 23:32
If you are going to look into RSJ, go to their site's www.rsj.de Newsgroup... you will learn a lot. I still can't can't get it to work with my CD-R... ("access denied errors"). I have yet to successfully get the CD/Recorder (free ware?) with EMX runtime to work, but that was earlier this year. I need to get back at that.
-Peter

Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  17 Aug, 2001 on 23:38
What drive do you have? Is it on the supported list? Does it mount the cdr during boot? More info!

//Kim


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Christian Hennecke
Date  :  18 Aug, 2001 on 22:35

tomleem (17 Aug, 2001 22:52):
I just ordered a cd-rw drive from http://www.tigerdirect.com. It was on sale for $69. It is made by Philips. Is there OS/2 software that can be used with a cd-rw drive?

There are three options: RSJ, cdrecord/cdrdao and the new OS2CDROM.DMD. Using RSJ's IFS you can seamlessly access the CD-RW like a harddisk. Extremely good, but expensive. The "audio part" of RSJ isn't too great. cdrecord needs to work with images created with mkisofs, but if you use Audio/Data-CD-Creator, it's easy to use. Then there is the new OS2CDROM.DMD from IBM from the new IDEDASD package. Klaus Staedtler reportet that he is transparently accessing his CD-RW like a harddisk. Cool, eh?


Will it be possible to create an installation cd-rom (ver 4) with fixpaks installed?

Yes, you can use UpdCD from Zsolt Kadar to do this. The package is on Hobbes.


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  pipes
Date  :  27 Aug, 2001 on 18:46
I have a external SCSI 8x "generic" burner. I got it for a real good price at a garage sale. Windows and OS/2 pick up the drive and I can burn just fine in Win NT, but either OS/2 Warp or Warp Server for ebiz just doesn't cut it.. kinda a bummer. The burner also works with a Mac... yes, a Mac, nice thing about SCSI external.

The latest ver of RSJ picks up the drive and I can attach just fine... but err msgs aren't the best to troubleshoot. Take a look at my postings in RSJ's newsgroup.


-Peter

Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  27 Aug, 2001 on 19:41
The bad news with RSJ Writer is that it is not the fastest software to be updated with new CDR-units. But, in the other hand You are actually able to make the small updated needed to get the most of the drives to work. Take a look in cddrv.inf and you figure out what I mean; might not be for novice but still it is very easy to make the proper changes to get it to run.

//Kim


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  17 Sep, 2001 on 19:44
My cd-rw was not on either the compatible or noncompatible list but it worked with the RSJ cdwriter software. It recognized it - it is a Philips 800 series cd-rw drive. RSJ worked with it. I burned a cdr on 09-14-2001. I bought the RSJ software from BMTMicro. I will try the it on a cd-rw disc next.
OS/2 Warp-ed to the very end.

Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  18 Sep, 2001 on 21:50
What You could do then us to notify RSJ about the model of CD that You have so the can add your CDR-unit on the list for supported hardware.

//Kim


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  19 Sep, 2001 on 16:02
I have informed them of the fact that their software works with a Philips 800 series CD-RW drive.

PS I have tried it with a cd-rw disc and it works (at least writing to the disc). I have not tried removing something from the disc.

PSS I will be trying a mini-cdr and/or mini-cdrw disc when I can find either/or of the disc's.


OS/2 Warp-ed to the very end.

Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  pipes
Date  :  24 May, 2004 on 17:11
Wow! old thread. The 8x SCSI drive external PSU died, so I had to connect it internally, then it died a few months ago...

I got a Samsung 54x CDRW IDE with 8mb onboard Cache, for under $70.

I got it to burn nicely with CDRecord/2 (v52) and its necessary items. I can't make it delete any contents of the disc nor fast blank, etc.. when using a 4x CDRW disc.

I can blank the disc in Nero on Windows (booo, yes I know), then I can reuse the disc in OS/2. Odd.


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Roland junker@despamhydrografix.com
Date  :  29 May, 2004 on 10:20
There are three options: .. the new OS2CDROM.DMD. .... Then there is the new OS2CDROM.DMD from IBM from the new IDEDASD package. Klaus Staedtler reportet that he is transparently accessing his CD-RW like a harddisk. Cool, eh?

I tried it with the new os2cdrom.dmd and after reboot, I see the CD-RW mapped as hard disk, but I'm not able to write anything to it.


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  devnul
Date  :  29 May, 2004 on 13:17

Roland (29 May, 2004 10:20):
There are three options: .. the new OS2CDROM.DMD. .... Then there is the new OS2CDROM.DMD from IBM from the new IDEDASD package. Klaus Staedtler reportet that he is transparently accessing his CD-RW like a harddisk. Cool, eh?

I tried it with the new os2cdrom.dmd and after reboot, I see the CD-RW mapped as hard disk, but I'm not able to write anything to it.


You must format the CD-RW using UDF first, 'works' since long but in former times only with selected drives and slower than a snail. But now it's quite usable.


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Roland junker@despamhydrografix.com
Date  :  29 May, 2004 on 14:01
Thank's. I got it, first I had only a CD-R in, not a rewritable. after change to CD-RW there is no problem anymore. I had time to read the text files in the os2\boot directory, too. Beeing able to read is an advantage.

Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  pipes
Date  :  29 May, 2004 on 19:47
You must format the CD-RW using UDF first, 'works' since long but in former times only with selected drives and slower than a snail.

Where/how can I get it to format it via UDF? Can Audio CD Creator or CDRecord/2 do this?

Thanks,


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  31 May, 2004 on 22:28
Hi

You should have a udf readme file somewhere but these are the format and chkdsk commands:-

6.0 FORMAT and CHKDSK Parameters
--------------------------------

Syntax of the FORMAT command for the UDF file system is the following:

FORMAT drive /FS:UDF [/S:setid] /V:label[/F] [/L] [/ONCE] [/Y] [/BM:B|E]

PARAMETER DESCRIPTION

drive A drive letter (e.g. C:, D:, E:, etc.)
/S:setid Volume Set Identifier.
/V:label Volume label.
/F or /L Low-level formatting.
/Y Assume a YES response to all questions asked by FORMAT.
/ONCE Format without any questions to user.
/BM:B|E Determines Space Bitmap disposition on the disk:
B - at the beginning,
E - at the end,
by default - at the middle.


Syntax of the CHKDSK command for the UDF file system is the following:

CHKDSK drive [/y|/n] [/c] [/F] [/f] [/q|/v|/V] [/t:filename]

PARAMETER DESCRIPTION

drive A drive letter (e.g. C:, D:, E:, etc.)
/y Assume a YES response to all questions asked by CHKDSK.
/n Assume a NO response to all questions asked by CHKDSK.
/c Check volume for clean unmount (returns 0 if clean,
and 1 if not clean).
/F Force check of a cleanly unmounted volume.
/f Fast check. Check blocks/sizes and the free list.
/q Quiet mode. Error messages only are output.
/v Verbose mode.
/V Very Verbose mode.
/t:filename Optional scratch file.


Notes:

o Some parameters for CHKDSK command are case-sensitive.

o Parameter /BM is used for media with limited rewriting capability, such
as CD-RW, DDCD-RW, DVD+RW, and DVD-RW. The Space Bitmap is the area
of the media where data is rewritten very frequently.
Therefore, use of the /BM parameter for FORMAT is recommended to move
the Space Bitmap to another location on the media, thereby prolonging
media life.

If CD-RW, DDCD-RW, DVD+RW or DVD-RW media cannot be formatted
successfully, then FORMAT with the parameter /BM:B or /BM:E (if this
media has been formatted previously without the /BM parameter) should be
tried for this media. If the media still cannot be formatted
successfully, then use new media.

Of course you can always use PMFormat and PMChkdsk as well.

Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:CD-RW Drive and OS/2?
Author  :  devnul
Date  :  31 May, 2004 on 22:36
>Of course you can always use PMFormat and PMChkdsk as well.

No, fresh media has to be formatted with UDF first from command-line. Afterwards you can use PMFormat on the same media too


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