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Subject  :  HPFS om CF card
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  21 Nov, 2005 on 23:17
Hi

I'm trying to format a 256 MB CF card to HPFS (via USB).

The format is no problem, but when it is done, it asks for a label, and then tells me :

SYS0527: HPFS (High Performance File System) data cannot be copied to the specified disk.

I have no problem formatting as fat !

Is 256 MB too small a disk for HPFS ?

Or do you have any other ideas ?

Thanks

Kim


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  22 Nov, 2005 on 09:18
Hi,

there might be lots of reasons why it doesn't work: USB removable media support, USB kernel, OS kernel levels are just a few.
What os are you using. OS/2 or eCS - and what version?
In general, there's no "lower" limit known to me when formatting drives with HPFS - at least, 256MB should work. I already formatted 100MB Zip Disks as HPFS.
I would suspect this to be a problem with the way you are "talking" to the CF card - is it a "removable device" like floppy or is it a "USB mass storage device"... or maybe even used as a hard disk...?

Greetings
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  22 Nov, 2005 on 22:51
HI

>What os are you using. OS/2 or eCS - and what version?

I'm using Warp 4.0 Fixpack 17

>In general, there's no "lower" limit known to me when formatting drives with
>HPFS

I expected as much, but you neer know ;o)

>is it a "removable device" like floppy or is it a "USB mass storage device"

Removable MSD :

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1

Does that help ?


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  23 Nov, 2005 on 10:10

kif (22 Nov, 2005 22:51):
I'm using Warp 4.0 Fixpack 17
(snip)
Removable MSD :
BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1
Does that help ?

Hi kif,

yes it helps. At least in matters of reducing the places to search for information I can't help right now, but I'll take a look into the USB driver stuff to see whether this is some kind of "known problem"... I'll be back as soon as I can find additional information.

Greetings
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  Kim
Date  :  23 Nov, 2005 on 11:46
Just to try it from another point of view; but have you tried to format the CF card using a PC-Card based adapter. At least the USB isn't involved?

Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  23 Nov, 2005 on 18:17
Kif,

I agree with Kim in matter that the problem might be rather related to the fact of using USB... okay, just to give it a try:

Did you try to boot up the system with the CF card already attached? Does it make any difference?
Or the other way round: Plug in the card / usb reader once the system is up and run "refresh removable media" from the WPS drives folder.
If this doesn't show any significant improvement try to add the following parameters to make your BASEDEV statement look like...:

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1 /REMOVABLE_AS_FLOPPY

or

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1 /REMOVABLE_AS_FLOPPY /FORCE_TO_REMOVABLE

...and check again, eventually with the preceeding steps (boot with media inserted and/or re-plugging with refreshing media)...

Sorry I can't give a precise solution - I'm somehow limited in matters of testing environments here at work.

HTH, Greetings
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  23 Nov, 2005 on 21:01
Hi

>have you tried to format the CF card using a PC-Card based adapter. At
>least the USB isn't involved?

Good idea, that was my first thought, but unfortunatly I have mislaid my PCMCIA CF card reader, so for now I'm stuck with USB :o(.

>Did you try to boot up the system with the CF card already attached?

Not shure, will try.

>If this doesn't show any significant improvement try to add the following
>parameters to make your BASEDEV statement look like...:

Thanks for your help, I'll try your suggestions, and come back with the result.

Kif


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  kif kim@foder.dk
Date  :  28 Nov, 2005 on 13:37
Hi

Over the weekend I have tried booting with different parameters for the USBMSD, with the following results.

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1 /REMOVABLE_AS_FLOPPY

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1 /REMOVABLE_AS_FLOPPY /FORCE_TO_REMOVABLE

and

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1 /FORCE_TO_REMOVABLE

All gave a floppy icon (last one gave a harddisk) in the drives folder, could not format as HPFS, not supported for this drive.

BASEDEV=USBMSD.ADD /FLOPPIES:0 /REMOVABLES:1
(original)

With card in reader at boot, worked !

Thanks for your help.

Kif


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  Steve_Richards steve@aducredit.com
Date  :  29 Nov, 2005 on 14:02
Please pardon me jumping in, I have a similar issue.

I have a 1GB OCZ USB pen drive. It works fine formatted as FAT16 but I want to use it to xfer files between WIN/LINUX/OS2 and would like to preserve long file names via FAT32.

I have formatted it to FAT32 on WIN. OS/2 will recognize the drive letter when I insert the device but it does not like to read any files.

I have installed the FAT32 IFS from NetLabs (V.99b).

I have all of the most recent USB drivers. (actually I think I have most recent of all drivers). OS2 is ECS v1.2.

I have tried booting with the drive installed and the FAT32 partition is recognized by the FAT32IFS utilities.

I haven't fully tried everything yet, but am looking for some feedback.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

---
Steve


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  29 Nov, 2005 on 17:05

Steve_Richards (29 Nov, 2005 14:02):
I have tried booting with the drive installed and the FAT32 partition is recognized by the FAT32IFS utilities.

...so everything works fine when the drive was installed prior to booting the machine...?


Steve_Richards (29 Nov, 2005 14:02):
I haven't fully tried everything yet, but am looking for some feedback.

I'm sorry I can't help you with that. I have noticed that when I try to format my SD cards with anything else than FAT16, my digital camera refuses to use them, so does my MP3 player. Therefore, I didn't try to get other than FAT16 on them. I might however give a try to my USB memory stick... but this will mean that I can't plug the USB stick to other peoples machines without caring about "is the FAT32.IFS installed!?".
My current workaround is to store files with long names in short-named ZIP folders on the storage device. That works like a charm thanks to InfoZip (available for almost every platform). On eCS|OS/2 I use FC/2's built-in zip functions, and that's very, very comfortable.
Sorry for not having "the ultimate" solution.

Greetings
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:HPFS om CF card
Author  :  Steve_Richards steve@aducredit.com
Date  :  29 Nov, 2005 on 19:25

warpcafe (29 Nov, 2005 17:05):

...so everything works fine when the drive was installed prior to booting the machine...?


Well everything worked fine with FAT16. With FAT32 either booted or hotplugged the partition can be seen but the data not accessed.


warpcafe (29 Nov, 2005 17:05):
I'm sorry I can't help you with that. I have noticed that when I try to format my SD cards with anything else than FAT16, my digital camera refuses to use them, so does my MP3 player. Therefore, I didn't try to get other than FAT16 on them. I might however give a try to my USB memory stick... but this will mean that I can't plug the USB stick to other peoples machines without caring about "is the FAT32.IFS installed!?".
My current workaround is to store files with long names in short-named ZIP folders on the storage device. That works like a charm thanks to InfoZip (available for almost every platform). On eCS|OS/2 I use FC/2's built-in zip functions, and that's very, very comfortable.
Sorry for not having "the ultimate" solution.

Greetings
Thomas



Good idea, that may have to be my solution

Thanks,
Steve


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