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Subject  :  Seamonkey
Author  :  Trident
Date  :  27 Apr, 2007 on 15:31
I had hope to use Seamonkey for my default browser, instead of
firefox, but I have run into a few problems, maybe someone else has
had these same issues. I have tried both Seamonkey 1.1.1 and 1.0.8.
1. Bookmarks do not work
2. No back for forward buttons
3. mpg will not load into a new window

Firefox 2.0 has these issues
1 will not load any video files into a new window and run them
2. Warpvison plugin does not seem to work
3 the npnulos2.dll, is not enabled.
Thats all I can remember, I've been trying for about 2 weeks to fix
these problems.
I am using Golden Code and finally spent the time to read how
to correctly install the dll's.

Also, I have multible installs of either Firefox and or Seamonkey..
why are they sharing settings? Add-on I installed in Seamonkey 1.1.1
show up in Seamonkey 1.0.8 when I installed it...
thanks...


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  27 Apr, 2007 on 19:52
I installed the latest SeaMonkey but could not get it to start. I had to go back a couple of versions before it would start. At least you got it running.

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Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Trident
Date  :  27 Apr, 2007 on 22:36
I did install 1.0.8
but find that if you install the plugins in a certain order you will
get Seamonkey to run, thats vers 1.1.1
don't put all the plugins in at once, I do flash, then the java
wrapper, then the dll.
just need to play with it
best

Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  28 Apr, 2007 on 03:12

Trident (27 Apr, 2007 15:31):
I had hope to use Seamonkey for my default browser, instead of
firefox, but I have run into a few problems, maybe someone else has
had these same issues. I have tried both Seamonkey 1.1.1 and 1.0.8.
1. Bookmarks do not work
2. No back for forward buttons
3. mpg will not load into a new window

Firefox 2.0 has these issues
1 will not load any video files into a new window and run them
2. Warpvison plugin does not seem to work
3 the npnulos2.dll, is not enabled.
Thats all I can remember, I've been trying for about 2 weeks to fix
these problems.
I am using Golden Code and finally spent the time to read how
to correctly install the dll's.

Also, I have multible installs of either Firefox and or Seamonkey..
why are they sharing settings? Add-on I installed in Seamonkey 1.1.1
show up in Seamonkey 1.0.8 when I installed it...
thanks...



Hi

I suspect that as you have multiple installs you may have problems with the wrong Firefox/Seamonkey *.dll files being used unless you are using Run! or you start whichever Mozilla product by using a cmd file to set any necessary paths and libpaths.

Your comment "Add-on I installed in Seamonkey 1.1.1
show up in Seamonkey 1.0.8 when I installed it..." suggests that is the problem.

The bookmarks problem may be a Profile problem. You need to check that Profile data is being loaded from the correct location.

See the Tips for Warpzilla page for a bit of info about multiple installations and how to overcome problems http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Warpzilla.html

The alternative is to ditch all the unwanted versions of Firefox and Seamonkey and just have the 1 browser package installed - no problems with configuration issues then

I use the PW "enhanced" Seamonkey1.1.1+ as it is a bit more "WPS friendly" than the standard version and is also able to use high memory which means that it is possible to run OpenOffice/2 at the same time without any resources issues here. You may want to have a look http://pmw-warpzilla.sourceforge.net/

Note on the above Tips webpage the suggestion to use MediaPlayerConnectivity instead of Warpvision plugin - or any of the usual OS/2 multmedia plugins. I suggest you follow the advice if you want to have a resonable chance of playing online video clips - just setup MPC to use Warpvision as the player.

Hope the above is of some use

Pete


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Andrew
Date  :  28 Apr, 2007 on 13:15

Trident (27 Apr, 2007 15:31):
I had hope to use Seamonkey for my default browser, instead of
firefox, but I have run into a few problems, maybe someone else has
had these same issues. I have tried both Seamonkey 1.1.1 and 1.0.8.
. . .
2. No back for forward buttons
. . .

One of the extensions that I had installed caused this problem with SeaMonkey. Try either using a new profile, or renaming the "extensions" directory in your default profile. If the front and back buttons work, then it probably is an extension. I don't remember which one caused this problem, perhaps Mnenhy, but I know it went away when I updated it.

Andrew


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Trident
Date  :  30 Apr, 2007 on 03:17
Hey Pete, your probably correct about going with one browser,
And I'll uninstall all of them and just install Seamonkey.
I use to be able to run mpeg, and mpg in a window, now i'm not, but
then that could be do to the extensions. Maybe you can answer why
the system and browser become unstable after many hours of use
freezing the desktop, and have to reboot...
anyway, thanks for the info...
Best

Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  OriAl alanh77@comcast.net
Date  :  01 May, 2007 on 00:18
I've also found that the bookmarks don't work in Seamonkey 1.1.1. Double click or press Enter, nothing happens.

Seamonkey loads pages faster than Firefox 2.0.0.3 and prior 2.0x versions. It also doesn't require clearing the cache to get navigation with keypad and spacebar working again after they stop working on some sites (doesn't happen in SM.)

Which extensions can be used with SM?


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  02 May, 2007 on 10:30

Trident (30 Apr, 2007 03:17):
Maybe you can answer why
the system and browser become unstable after many hours of use
freezing the desktop, and have to reboot...

Hi,
please have a look here:
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0207H/feature_3.html
and browse down to the "The mozilla family" paragraph. It explains quite nicely what the causes are. More interesting details will be contained in the upcoming (next) newsletters part #2 of the article series...

Cheers,
Thomas


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  03 May, 2007 on 01:02

warpcafe (02 May, 2007 10:30):

Trident (30 Apr, 2007 03:17):
Maybe you can answer why
the system and browser become unstable after many hours of use
freezing the desktop, and have to reboot...

Hi,
please have a look here:
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0207H/feature_3.html
and browse down to the "The mozilla family" paragraph. It explains quite nicely what the causes are. More interesting details will be contained in the upcoming (next) newsletters part #2 of the article series...

Cheers,
Thomas


Looks like the voice article probably covers the reasons.

However, there is an enhanced Seamonkey build that may help. Amongst the enhancements is the ability to make use of high memory which should release lower memory areas for other apps that do not have this ability.

If interested in trying that build instead of the "official" build Seamonkey1.1.1+ can be found here http://pmw-warpzilla.sourceforge.net/

Regards

Pete


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  08 May, 2007 on 02:01
I tried the 'gecko' version and am using it. It works pretty good.

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Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Sander
Date  :  08 May, 2007 on 21:19
ALL versions are Gecko based.

Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  BigWarpGuy
Date  :  08 May, 2007 on 21:34

Sander (08 May, 2007 21:19):
ALL versions are Gecko based.

seamonkey-1.1.1+.en-US.os2.enh.exe
This is the file I used. Is it the Gecko one or is it - as it shows - Seamonkey?

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Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  Pete losepete@ntlworld.com
Date  :  09 May, 2007 on 01:09

BigWarpGuy (08 May, 2007 21:34):

Sander (08 May, 2007 21:19):
ALL versions are Gecko based.

seamonkey-1.1.1+.en-US.os2.enh.exe
This is the file I used. Is it the Gecko one or is it - as it shows - Seamonkey?



Hi BWG

It is... Both!

I might have this a tad wrong but I think Gecko is the underlying framework of all the Mozilla based applications so Seamonkey, Firefox, Thunderbird are all "gecko".

In your instance you downloaded the Seamonkey1.1.1+ installer version which is based on the Gecko 1.8.1.2+ code. As I use that version myself I think you have made a wise choice

Pete


Subject  :  Re:Seamonkey
Author  :  warpcafe warpcafe@yahoo.de
Date  :  09 May, 2007 on 08:52
Gents, FYI and to clarify... )

From Wikipedia (unbelievable what one can find there )



Gecko is the open source, free software web browser layout engine used in all Mozilla-branded software and its derivatives, including later Netscape releases. Written in C++ and licensed under MPL/GPL/LGPL triple license, Gecko is designed to support open Internet standards. Originally created by Netscape Communications Corporation, its development is now overseen by the Mozilla Foundation.

Gecko offers a rich programming API that makes it suitable for a wide variety of roles in Internet-enabled applications, such as web browsers, content presentation, and client/server[1]. Primarily it is used by Mozilla browser derivatives, such as Mozilla Firefox, Camino, Flock, SeaMonkey, K-Meleon, and Netscape, to render websites and, in some cases, the application user interface written in XUL. Gecko is cross-platform and works on a number of different operating systems, including Microsoft Windows, BSDs, GNU/Linux, and Mac OS X.

Gecko is generally considered to be the second most-popular layout engine on the Web, after Trident (used by Internet Explorer for Windows since version 4), and followed by WebCore (used by Safari) and Presto (used by Opera).


regards,
Thomas


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