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Subject  :  Adobe Apollo - coming sooner than you think...
Author  :  Terry tgindy@yahoo.com
Date  :  01 Jan, 2007 on 00:16
Adobe Apollo is intended to become another "free web standard" like PDF & Flash to informally secure Adobe's market position.

What are your initial thoughts about the open-source Adobe Apollo and its' porting potential with OS/2-eCS?

Here's the Adobe Apollo F.A.Q.:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo:developerfaq

Two interesting F.A.Q. quotes...

[1] "Apollo is the code name for a cross-operating system runtime being developed by Adobe that allows developers to leverage their existing web development skills (Flash, Flex, HTML, JavaScript, Ajax) to build and deploy Rich Internet Applications (RIAs) to the desktop."

[2] "We spent a considerable amount of time researching a number of HTML rendering engines for use in Apollo. We had four main criteria, all of which WebKit met:

* Open project that we could contribute to
* Proven technology, that web developers and end users are familiar with
* Minimum effect on Apollo runtime size
* Proven ability to run on mobile devices

While the final decision was difficult, we felt that WebKit is the best match for Apollo at this time."

Here's a link to the Webkit Project:
http://webkit.org/projects/documentation/index.html

You also have to wonder what impact this will have on Java 6 (and earlier Java) compatibility - what with JavaScript and Ajax implications.


Subject  :  Re:Adobe Apollo - coming sooner than you think...
Author  :  El Vato
Date  :  01 Jan, 2007 on 17:37

Terry (01 Jan, 2007 00:16):
Adobe Apollo is intended to become another "free web standard" like PDF & Flash to informally secure Adobe's market position.

The choices for an OS/2er are becoming more and more reduced. If you were to have something that works on OS/2 --even if partially...nay, even if not with all the bells and whistles of the Adobe offering-- I would point to the Google Web Toolkit (GWT) of BigWarpGuy's inquiry.

Although potential OS/2 Web developers would not be able to use the SWT aspect of the GWT, the code for generating AJAX is Java --open source.

In the documentation it is recommended version 1.4.2 and up but, at least for the near term, the sample code compiles under Golden Code Development (GCD) 1.4.1_7.

Hence, although currently OS/2ers can not use SWT to try this default Hello sample (shown here on Linux): (( gwtHello )).

OS/2ers ARE ABLE to modify the example in a text editor and compile it with GCD to turn it into: (( gwtHello modified a la OS/2 Go ahead, "hit" the AJAX button.))


Terry (01 Jan, 2007 00:16):
What are your initial thoughts about the open-source Adobe Apollo and its' porting potential with OS/2-eCS?

OS/2, again, is short in developers. Consequently, Apollo may not be as close to embrace as GWT.

Having a more current version of Java is of utmost importance and urgency for OS/2 since web technologies' major enterprises (IBM, BEA, SUN, Google, etc.) are leveraging Java's cross platform property.

OS/2 could do even without SWT if a more current version of Java existed. Case in point, Linux has individualists who are not keeping their hands in their pockets and waiting for private entities to develop what they need (or awakens their creative curiosity). As an example, see the SWT to SWING project:

http://swtswing.sourceforge.net/main/index.html

that could benefit us indirectly if we had a current Java port. The above version 1.0 of the hack is designed for Java 5. Although currently I am attempting to smooth some the hiccups experienced under OS/2's Java with the GNU's Classpath Java 5 equivalents, I am not making much progress.

Java anyone


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