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I have to admit, after searching around and reading up on what updates are available for OS2, I have come to the conclusion that it's a confusing mess.

Ok, so for an OS2 warp4 install (with "modern" hardware) to be used primarily as a workstation and basic home use, one should install what updates?

Fixpack 15 ?

Drive update?
Device Driver FixPak XR_D002

Feature Install Version 1.2.5 ?

For drive support?
danis506r175
FAT32.IFS
VFAT-OS2.IFS
maybe...RAMfs64

For (free) CD/DVD burning?
daniatapi0314
emx0944
aspirb10
cdrecord-2
cdrdao-os2
audiocdcreator_053

??

I know there are many more updates. What is essential? Recommended? Cool extras that will impress the girls?

Date: 11 Apr, 2006 on 10:08
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This may be useful to a number of us who come here. I the more I look online, the more I get confused. There is alot of older stuff out there and I am never sure what is still useful. I have the WarpUP CD, which has lots of useful stuff and is a good starting point. I would just like to hear a current list of what is available. At least, until I have the cash for eCs, sometime this summer.
Date: 11 Apr, 2006 on 15:26
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Hi

You may find this page helpful
http://www.warpupdates.mynetcologne.de/english/site_contents.html

I'm not sure how up to date it is but it should be a good starting point.

I think the best answer is probably to use the Warp4 package to claim an upgrade price to eComStation - which seems to install to modern hardware fairly well, see www.ecomstation.com for current pricing offers.

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Date: 12 Apr, 2006 on 00:20
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Good question. I know it has been looked at a number of times, but I don't know if there is a current list of stuff summarizing all the updates.

For starters, make sure when you download this stuff that you use a Binary download. This is usually the default for most FTP clients, but not always. Second, each time you download another update, take my advice and put all its associated files in a separate directory on your hard disk. This will make installing everything easier later. And finally get familiar with Hobbes and with the IBM Boulder FTP site:

Hobbes:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/

IBM Boulder:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/
and
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/

Its worthwhile to have both Info-Zip's Unzip and DSKXTRCT (which allows you to extract IBM's .DSK files to your hard disk without needing a floppy). Grab them, extract them, and put the .EXE's somewhere in your path:

DSKXTRCT:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?key=dskxtr13.zip&pushbutton=Search

Unzip:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=unz551x2.exe&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

If you want to grab ZIP while you're at it, its always good to have too. Search the Hobbes archive for it.

For Warp 4, I'm assuming you're working with the original 1996 release, and the US English version. If you're on any other language, you'll have to substitute the appropriate fixpaks for your language.

There are many ways to install fixpaks, but an easy way is with sfix:

http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=sfix41&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

You can also use IBM's RSU-CSF facility if you wish. If you want to do this, grab the utility from:

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/rsu/csf144.zip

(I'll get to how to use that utility later)

For Warp 4, you'll want to install the Device Driver 2 fixpak, and Fixpak 15 - the latest "free" fixpaks from IBM:

The *.?DK version of Fixpak 15:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/xr_m015/
Or the ZIPped version of the fixpak:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/rsu/xr_m015

The *.?DK version of Device Driver 2 Fixpak:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/ddpak/xr_d002/
Or the ZIPped version of the DDK2 fixpak:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/rsu/xr_d002/

Which to grab? If you're using sfix, grab the disk image version (the *.?DK link). If you're using the IBM RSU-CSF facility, grab the ZIPped version. Place the groups of files each in their own directory (as I mentioned earlier) - for example:

c:\fp15
c:\ddk2
c:\csf144

etc. You get the idea.

While you're at it, download (into its own directory) the TCP/IP fixpak at:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v3.1os2andv4.0os2/universal/un_0980/

Also, grab the version of MPTS with the 32-bit TCP/IP stack (many of the newer apps out there need the 32 bit stack). The "installation" for the newer version of MPTS is at:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08610_conv/

And then the Fixpak to update MPTS (once you get the "newer" version installed) is at:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08621/

If you're going to use the peer-to-peer networking features, grab the peer networking update at:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/lan/fixes/ibm.peer/english-us/ip08414/

On a Novell network? You'll want the most updated client at:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/netware/Client_OS2_V212/

If you have an older display adapter, you may want to try the last "free" version of Scitech Display Doctor that doesn't require a Passport Advantage subscription:
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak_cur/sddse704.exe

*Note that before installing this, check its readme to see if your display adapter is on the list of supported adapters.

For anything that you need Feature Install for, you'll need Netscape 4.61:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=nsc461&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

Feature Install can be found at:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=fi125us.zip&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

If you want the IBM Plug-in pack for Netscape 4.61 - this adds MPEG playback to OS/2's MMOS2, it also adds the ability to stream any file types that OS/2's MMOS2 understands from the internet:

http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/nspip30.exe

You'll probably also want Danis506.add instead of IBM1S506.ADD:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=danis506&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

I also suggest every OS/2 installation have EMXRT installed. Many *nix ports use the EMX runtime library, so its good to have it installed:
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/dev/emx/v0.9d/emxrt.zip

Many new applications these days are using Warpin for their install, so its a good idea to have Warpin on your system:
http://warpin.netlabs.org/?show=download

If you want FAT32 support, grab it from:
ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/fat32/

For FAT32 to work, you may need DaniDASD (this is needed for any non-LVM version of OS/2 which you want to work with Fat32):
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=danidasd&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

(I havn't used VFAT-OS2 or RAMfs, so I can't comment on them)

For CD Writing with the "free" tools, you'll want DANIATAPI (if you're using an IDE writer):
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=daniatapi&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

And ASPIROUT:
http://home.clara.net/orac/os2.htm

And finally, grab a memory checking utility such as countmem to tell you whether or not OS/2 is recognizing all your memory (sometimes OS/2 has trouble seeing memory over 64 Megs on *some* system bios'es):
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=countmem.zip&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

And grab Patchldr just in case you do need to patch the loader so OS/2 will see all your memory (in cases where countmem only sees 64 Megs):
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=patchldr.zip&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F

For more on CD burning, check the info at:
http://www.os2world.com/cdwriting/

You'll also want to grab the latest version of Firefox and Thunderbird, or Mozilla suite, or Seamonkey, or all of the above - so you'll have a modern web browser. You can find info on them at:
http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Warpzilla.html
and
http://www.mozilla.org/ports/os2/

Okay, so you've decided what you want, downloaded it, now what? I'm assuming you've already got a base Warp 4 up and running.

Step 1 - install the Device Driver fixpaks and Fixpak 15.

1.1 - install the sfix utility
1.2 - use the sfix utility to install FP15
1.3 - Reboot
1.4 - Use sfix to install the Device Driver 2 fixpak
1.5 - Reboot
1.6 - Unzip the countmem.zip and run countmem.exe in a command prompt. If all your memory is recognized then no need to patch your loader. If it only sees 64 MB, then jump to Step 1.7
1.7 - Unzip patchldr.zip, and follow the directions in its documentation file for patching your boot loader so all your memory will (hopefully) be recognized. Reboot and run countmem again and see if OS/2 now sees all your installed memory.

Step 2 - If you plan to try and use the Scitech Display Doctor display driver, then install it now (read its docs on how to install it - it requires a recent OS/2 fixpak - that's why it has to wait until after FP15 is installs). Reboot, set your resolution under the System properties, and reboot again to get your desired screen resolution.

Step 3 - if you installed MPTS and TCP/IP when you installed OS/2, then install the TCP/IP fixpak using either sfix or the RSU - CSF utility (to use the CSF facility, you'll first need to use DSKXTRCT to extract the files to your hard disk, then see below for directions). Reboot

Step 4 - Use DSKXTRCT to extract the wr08610 files to a directory on your hard disk, change to that directory and run:

MPTS.EXE

This will install the newer MPTS utility, along with an early version of the 32-bit TCP/IP stack. Then reboot

Step 5 - use sfix (or RSU-CSF facility) to update MPTS with wr08621. Reboot

Step 6 - Use sfix to install the Peer fixpak (if you're using Peer). Reboot

Step 7 - Now you can start installing other stuff such as Netscape Communicator and Feature Install (for regular browsing, I suggest the latest version of FireFox or Seamonkey, although the feature install plug-in won't work with these newer browsers), Firefox or Seamonkey, the EMX Runtime, Danis drivers, ASPIRout, Warpin, FAT32, etc. All of this stuff has documentation that explains how to install it - read it!

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How to install Fixpaks using the CSF-RSU utility instead of SFIX:
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1. Unzip the CSF utility to its own directory:

c:\csf144

2. Extract the desired fixpak into its own directory using either UNZIP or DSKXTRCT:

For example:
c:\fp15

Change into your CSF directory, and type the command (from a command prompt):

os2serv c:\csf144\csf c:\fp15

Then highlite your fixpaks and use the "Install" option. Also, make sure the "replace newer" files is selected, that way it'll replace any files with the ones in the fixpak.

You can install *any* fixpak this way with IBM's RSU version of the CSF utility - just replace the C:\FP15 directory with the directory that your desired fixpak is.

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Okay, that covers the majority of the updates that I normally recommend for a freshly installed Warp 4 machine. Of course another option is to use many of these components to create an updated Warp 4 CD using UpdCD, which once created you can just boot from and do an install - the result being at the latest fixpak levels. But, if you don't have a rebuilt CD, all the above information should get you on the right track.

Good luck! If you run into difficulties, feel free to ask.

Date: 12 Apr, 2006 on 02:43
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Fahrvenugen, above and beyond the call of duty.
Ya know... where I'm from, a post like that would get a sticky.
Date: 12 Apr, 2006 on 07:54
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Wow,

Written like someone who has the process memorized from many,many repititions. Thank you.

BTW: I really have tried many times on my own with my spare machine. I have looked at alot of sites, and read and downloaded most of what you listed. But, with so many updates I don't have time to try all combinations, and I never seem to quite get it right.

Date: 12 Apr, 2006 on 13:58
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steve (12 Apr, 2006 13:5:
Written like someone who has the process memorized from many,many repititions. Thank you.

BTW: I really have tried many times on my own with my spare machine. I have looked at alot of sites, and read and downloaded most of what you listed. But, with so many updates I don't have time to try all combinations, and I never seem to quite get it right.


You do not have to remember or manually download anything if you install os2mt: www.os2mt.tk

Date: 12 Apr, 2006 on 18:02
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Good point. I often forget about the OS2MT utility because I havn't ever used it... I've been doing the manual updates since the Warp 3, Fixpak 5 (entire fixpak on 3 floppy disks) days, and within the last few years have just used either eCS or refreshed CD's of Warp 3 and 4 that I've created using UpdCD.

The OS2MT utility does look very worthwhile especially to take the guesswork out of installing updates and applications, as long as you can get Warp up and running and connected to the internet.

But I'm not sure if it contains a couple of things, like checking to see if all memory is recognized or if the loader needs to be patched - but then on the other hand if you install one of the newer kernels (for example, 14.103a or 14.104a), that issue is fixed for most machines anyways (I can't recall which kernel contained the "official IBM" fix to allow Warp to see all memory on machines that didn't recognize all the memory)

Date: 12 Apr, 2006 on 18:30
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kadzsol (12 Apr, 2006 18:02):
You do not have to remember or manually download anything if you install os2mt: www.os2mt.tk

Hmm. That site is not available here across the pond in Texas. My guess is the U.S. government is blocking it, but I don't know for sure, but no DNS' in this country have a listing for it.

Could someone post the IP address for www.os2mt.tk so I can give it a try that way?

Thanks.

BTW...

I can't leave without saying what a phenominal effort Fahrvenugen put into his response above.

I bet all the numbers and letters are worn off his keyboard now, just from that one tremendous effort!

Well done and...

Huzzah!!

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Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 02:25
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Ben Dragon (13 Apr, 2006 02:25):

kadzsol (12 Apr, 2006 18:02):
You do not have to remember or manually download anything if you install os2mt: www.os2mt.tk

Hmm. That site is not available here across the pond in Texas. My guess is the U.S. government is blocking it, but I don't know for sure, but no DNS' in this country have a listing for it.

Could someone post the IP address for www.os2mt.tk so I can give it a try that way?

Thanks.

BTW...

I can't leave without saying what a phenominal effort Fahrvenugen put into his response above.

I bet all the numbers and letters are worn off his keyboard now, just from that one tremendous effort!

Well done and...

Huzzah!!


Have no problem with www.os2mt.tk from over here in CA.

Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 04:39
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Hmm... www.os2mt.tk works for me too. It looks like its on a virtual host. For its IP address I get 62.129.131.38 but when I try and go directly to that IP address the site doesn't come up, but does on www.os2mt.tk

Glad you've all found my earlier post useful! Otherwise I'd be wearing out my keyboard for nothing!

Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 07:14
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section7(13 Apr, 2006 04:39):
Have no problem with www.os2mt.tk from over here in CA.
CA? California? or Canada?


Fahrvenugens (13 Apr, 2006 04:39):Hmm... www.os2mt.tk works for me too. It looks like its on a virtual host. For its IP address I get 62.129.131.38 but when I try and go directly to that IP address the site doesn't come up, but does on www.os2mt.tk
I've even gone to the Internic's website and searched for it there. I've gone to DNS' wherever I could find them, and I have yet to be able to find any reference what-so-ever to such a DN.

I tried the IP address and this yields;

"Not Found

The requested URL / was not found on this server."

I wish I knew what the problem was, or barring that, I wish they'd mirror it on a real, (as opposed to virtual), server.

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Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 16:21
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Give the following a try:

http://xenia.sote.hu/~kadzsol/os2mt/

Looks like that's the real URL (non virtual) of the site.

There's also a Yahoo discussion group which (may) have updates to the application not posted on the website:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/os2mt

In my opinion, the most prefered option is to upload stuff like this to Hobbes.

Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 17:22
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Ben Dragon (13 Apr, 2006 16:21):
[CA? California? or Canada?

Go west young man! ...California.

I was experiencing problems such as yours and I was able to remedy the situation with a simple router firmware update. Go figure.

Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 19:21
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Hi
http://www.os2mt.tk/
Did work for me in Connecticut
Date: 13 Apr, 2006 on 22:48
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Fahrvenugen (13 Apr, 2006 17:22):
Give the following a try:

http://xenia.sote.hu/~kadzsol/os2mt/


Aha!

That did it!

Thanks, Fahrvenugen.

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