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« on: 2010.08.29, 17:55:17 »

Hi

I had a question about installing eComStation 2.0.

If I had a new machine (Intel Core 2 Duo) with SATA drives, with "NO ACHI COMPATIBILITY OR LEGACY" mode inside this mainboard BIOS.

1.- It is possible to install eCS 2.0 there?
2.- If possible, Is there any workarround documented?

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« Reply #1 on: 2010.08.29, 18:38:50 »

It's possible, that whoever is doing the Dani driver update will let you try a beta version. It is also possible, that "ACHI COMPATIBILITY OR LEGACY" mode will be automatically detected, and used by the current Dani driver. You would need to try it to see if that is the case. Otherwise, you are going to have to use a virtual machine, under another OS, until the Dani driver, with AHCI support, becomes available.
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« Reply #2 on: 2010.08.29, 19:20:20 »

Thanks DougB

Let me know if you need a beta tester for the ACHI enhanced Dani driver when it is ready.
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« Reply #3 on: 2010.08.30, 03:42:25 »

Hi Martin

The danis506.add v1.8.6 is currently in testing - if you are a member of the eCS TestTeam you should be able to get a copy.

I must admit that I am not sure whether this build supports AHCI so I've asked that question and will let you know when I have an answer.

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« Reply #4 on: 2010.08.30, 18:02:41 »

Hi Martin

And the answer is:

"Somewhat.  Most of the AHCI chipsets out there can run in SATA or AHCI
mode.  The chipset will be supported in SATA mode.  In some cases, this
will be the start up default.  In others, there will be a BIOS setting.

Full AHCI support will happen."


So, no AHCI support at the moment.

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« Reply #5 on: 2010.08.30, 20:40:16 »

Thanks Pete

I'm more interested to use it on mainboards that does not have ACHI compatibility mode, or SATA compatibility mode option, since it seems to be no way to install eCS on that kind of machines for the moment.

I will be waiting for it.
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« Reply #6 on: 2010.09.05, 18:10:13 »

It's possible, that whoever is doing the Dani driver update will let you try a beta version. It is also possible, that "ACHI COMPATIBILITY OR LEGACY" mode will be automatically detected, and used by the current Dani driver. You would need to try it to see if that is the case. Otherwise, you are going to have to use a virtual machine, under another OS, until the Dani driver, with AHCI support, becomes available.

I just installed ECS 2.0 on my T500 without putting it into compatibility mode, it went without any hitches.
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« Reply #7 on: 2010.09.05, 18:57:04 »

Thanks DougB

Let me know if you need a beta tester for the ACHI enhanced Dani driver when it is ready.

I have no inside information about this. All I know, is that someone is working on it.

Hi

I had a question about installing eComStation 2.0.

If I had a new machine (Intel Core 2 Duo) with SATA drives, with "NO ACHI COMPATIBILITY OR LEGACY" mode inside this mainboard BIOS.

1.- It is possible to install eCS 2.0 there?
2.- If possible, Is there any workarround documented?

Martin

It depends on the machine. Some do not have the settings, but they will use whatever mode the driver supports. Some (usually older machines) only have SATA (compatibility) mode, and some only have AHCI mode, with no settings, while others require the user to select the mode using a BIOS setting. The AHCI only machines will not work with the current (and apparently, the next) Dani driver. The only way to know, for sure, if it will work, or not, is to try it.
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« Reply #8 on: 2010.09.05, 19:16:22 »

Hi Robert

Did you update some driver?

I have a Intel DH55TC (with i5 proc). If I change from "IDE - Legacy" to ACHI or from "IDE - Legacy" to "IDE - Native". I get the famous error:

OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or....
The system is stopped. Correct the....


It only works on "IDE - Legacy" mode for me.
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« Reply #9 on: 2010.09.05, 19:25:04 »

By the way. I have two test machines.

1) HP Pavilion Dv6 with NO SATA compatibility mode option on the BIOS. (and no VTx)
There is no way to boot the eComStation CD-Rom on this machine. The bug is reported on the eCS bugtracker.

2) Clone with Intel DH55TC mainboard with Intel i5 750 proc.
I had installed eComStation 2.0 using IDE Legacy mode instead of ACHI or IDE Native.

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« Reply #10 on: 2010.09.05, 19:42:37 »

Hi Robert

Did you update some driver?

I have a Intel DH55TC (with i5 proc). If I change from "IDE - Legacy" to ACHI or from "IDE - Legacy" to "IDE - Native". I get the famous error:

OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk or....
The system is stopped. Correct the....


It only works on "IDE - Legacy" mode for me.

I didn't change anything.  I simply forgot to put it into compatibility mode before attempting the install and everything went smoothly.  There is one thing which might be causing it to work though that I hadn't thought of.  I installed on a HD in a ultraslim adapter, it is possible since this is where the cdrom would normally be connected that it doesn't use ACHI on this port.
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« Reply #11 on: 2010.12.14, 13:19:47 »

Sorry to resurrect old post but since it is related to ecs installation and AHCI than it may be of interest.
Hardware: LENOVO TP L512, i5, 500GB sata HD, sata CD/DVD. For beginning this should be enough.
Problem: Booting from internal CD in AHCI mode - fail. Must be in COMPATIBILITY mode (BIOS). After first phase (first reboot) TP crashed. Reseting mode to AHCI (BIOS) system start to boot from HD but than fail with known msg:
OS/2 cannot operate your HD or ... That happens when DANI driver should be loaded, as meter of fact it start to load because there is first line of Dani driver ( /V in config,sys) Version of Danis506 is 1.8.7.
Any suggestions???

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« Reply #12 on: 2010.12.14, 14:34:58 »

Hi Kreso

Interesting... the danis506.add on my eCS2.0 CD is 1.8.5.

How do you have the 1.8.7 version on hard drive? Did you update that driver at the end of phase1 of install using Maintenance Console?

Resetting the BIOS to use AHCI will not work unless the danis506.add used can force IDE/COMPATIBILITY mode - I'm not sure if 1.8.5 can do that.

It might be worth trying to find out why your system crashed at the reboot at end of install phase1 as it may have nothing to do with AHCI.

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« Reply #13 on: 2010.12.14, 15:30:49 »

Yes I updated my CD#1 with new Dani driver hoping that will help with AHCI but it did not. Reason was that in compatibility mod system hang after first reboot with a msg which I do not have here. I will recreate the situation and post a msg.
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« Reply #14 on: 2010.12.14, 17:23:45 »

Hi,

it may be worth giving an USB connected CD/DVD drive a try and install from there. That worked for me very often. I guess if only the HDD is SATA AHCI may work during installation. Once installed you might have both working, SATA CD and DVD.
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