Why do you guys put "Oli" in parenthesis? I have been chatting to you mr. Manners on and off for what, 15 years on the net, no need to be paranoid, I am not Dr. Tim Martin at Warpcity.com
2006 : "It's April, and HOBBES could use another Donation..."
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http://web.archive.org/web/20061014031557/os2ecs.org/hobbes/"
similar emails were sent out in April 2004, December same year, and in Jan/feb the 2005, July 2001, and at the least once before, which in turn clashed with the following message from the original maintainer in 2005, that appears to state that there had be none, the conflicting info was enough to keep me away from donating to either the os2ecs new hobbes or the NMSU new hobbes
"> "My tenure at new Mexico State University is fast coming to an end.
>Although I have a commitment from the Unix manager here to continue
>supporting hobbes(he uses it to train student employees in standard
>server support processes) there is pressure to eliminate hobbes that
>will escalate when I leave, and of course, I might not be the only one
>leaving.
> Hobbes has received little external support over its 2 decades of
>existence at NMSU(where will OS/2 be in 2010? 2020?). I've 'detained'
>boxes on their way out to surplus (some may remember the 1st hobbes at
>NMSU was a Next system) and 'borrowed' student employee hours to support
>it. The total of external donations over 20 years is less than $200.
> Since hobbes, to most computers, is really hobbes.nmsu.edu, it
>really isn't practical to 'transfer' it to another location. The plan
>was to give lots of notice before it died so that someone could copy all
>the files to another server or servers, one of which would probably
>become the future favorite OS/2 site, or at least, most well known.
> Looking at the success of the OS/2 tinderbox funding model, do you
>think that the Amazon Honor system would be a good model to fund a
>longer life for hobbes? I think the university would look more kindly on
>hobbes if there were some revenue, and student labor is cheap. And the
>training value is recognised by more than a few. A few thousand a year
>would go a long way toward preserving hobbes at its current well known
>address, and maybe even upgrade it( it is currently running on an old
>RS/6000 550 with little space or memory and a tenency to fail). And,
>even though retired, any continued input from me would receive more
>attention if money was on the table.
> The university has a big network pipe(100 mb), even if heavily
>used, with redundant backbones. So moving it to another ISP would not
>only lose its well known address but possibly provide poorer access.
> PLEASE, restrict response to the question. Hobbes has gotten all
>the praise and complaint it will ever need, and you know how testy old
>guys can get."
The other donation running at the same timeframe (mid 2005), I seem to recall a post were they claimed to have got at the least 25xx or 35xx USD and they print a list of donors on their page, perhaps some people got confused as to which project they were donating to? :
>Donations to the new Hobbes via the established Amazon HONOR page will
>go to the OS2IRC Organization (a soon to be established legal non-profit
>company).
>The New Hobbes service at OS2IRC.org will be operational by April 1, 2005.
> the money ..." "There's no reason for anyone concerned
> with the Hobbes issue to be forced into applying for membership
> with OS2Irc. That kind of underhanded scamming gives the
>Those donating to the new Hobbes project at OS2IRC Org. are not forced
>into applying for membership. Membership in OS2IRC Org. is entirely
>voluntarily and not related to donations. What you do get with your
>donation is assurance that it will be used to preserve the hobbes
>archive and encourage further development of OS/2 and eComStation
>software by utilizing OS/2 Technology as a platform for the new hobbes.
>Membership is free for all who want to join.
><rest of faulty output from random number generator snipped>
>Regards,
>Jeramie Samphere
>President & Operating Manager
>OS2IRC Org.