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Greggory Shaw

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Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« on: October 03, 2015, 10:56:44 pm »
Hey full duplex almost forgot about that ! added one to my dual core with 2GB memory, the on-board sound didn't fully work.

I found an old, but great guide on setting up the SB live card in the Yahoo group.

Couple of questions:

1) best mixer available (lbmix008.zip).
2) Generic Win-OS/2 Audio Driver latest & any tips - where to get the drivers.
3) best PCI soundcard with native drivers ??? soundfusion, crystal chipsets some have Winos2 drivers ???

So far no problems with eCS 2.2 :)


Thanks,

Greggory
 
« Last Edit: October 03, 2015, 11:00:41 pm by Greggory Shaw »



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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 02:27:44 am »
Hi Greggory

Long time since I last installed an SBLive but guess that lbmix is still probably the best mixer to use with Sanders driver.

I think the Generic Win-OS/2 Audio Driver was something to do with Roderick (ex-Mensys) if memory serves me correctly. I think this is the package you are looking for but I am not sure if it is the latest  http://www.ecomstation.it/ecsoft2/download.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.os2site.com%2Fsw%2Fdrivers%2Fsound%2Fmisc%2Fgenaud-v3.1r02.zip&progid=715

Is there a best PCI soundcard for OS/2 based systems? -  At one point Crystal were highly recommended but then opinion changed - something to do with buffers being too small and causing playback problems; also later Crystal soundcards do not have OS/2 drivers. For my basic sound requirements - system sounds, the occasional video but *never* mp3s - I usually find the "onboard sound"  works fine.


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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 11:57:04 am »
You can still find the generic WIN/OS2 driver on eCS CD 2. As for the SB Live. It might not work on all systems.
It does support high IRQ's. But it might run into trouble if your system has more then 2 GB of RAM.

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 01:49:53 pm »
Hi Gregg.

Can you post the link of the article please?

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 11:02:52 pm »
Thanks Pete & Roderick for the info.

Martin it was one of the posts in the SBlive yahoo group,  but don't remember which one.

EDIT: found it - http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0801H/vnewsf3.htm

I could send you the cut and post, the author is list so it would be nice if you could bet permission for general read post of it. I plan on doing the same after I get everything working.


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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2015, 07:27:18 am »
I have recently inherited some SoundBlaster Live cards, so I decided to try them. The results are somewhat surprising. Testing done on an old DELL machine.

Model SB0200 SB Live! Series (WDM).
  Doesn't work in WinXP, so may be broken.
  UniAud won't load
  Sander's driver won't load.

Model SB0220
  WinXP can't find a driver.
  UniAud works.
  Sanders driver loads, but no sound.

Model CT4780 SB Live! Value (WDM) from a DELL machine.
  Works with WinXP.
  UniAud loads, but no sound.
  Works with Sauder's driver.

Model CT4830 SB Live! Value (WDM) from an IBM machine.
  Works in WinXP.
  Works with UniAud.
  Sander's driver won't load.

FTR, none of them work with Win7 (and up, I would assume). No drivers.

I chose the CT4830, with UniAud, to use with my Asus A88XM-A motherboard. It seems to be good, but it would be nice if the on board sound would work. It appears that there are two sound chips, one for HDMI, and one with a Realtek sound chip. UniAud appears to ignore both of them.
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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2015, 08:43:11 am »

I chose the CT4830, with UniAud, to use with my Asus A88XM-A motherboard. It seems to be good, but it would be nice if the on board sound would work. It appears that there are two sound chips, one for HDMI, and one with a Realtek sound chip. UniAud appears to ignore both of them.

I am using an ASUS motherboard that uses the ADI AD1988B onboard sound chip and it works with UNIAUD.  There are also drivers on Hobbes for some of the ADI chips.

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2015, 11:48:08 am »
Also just a foodnote...

Unless other people can confirm I am wrong. In rare cases the Analog Devices AC 97 can choke on audio buffers and the system can crash.

The latest UNIAUD does not seem to have these issue's.  At least not that I can tell.

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2015, 08:34:43 pm »
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I am using an ASUS motherboard that uses the ADI AD1988B onboard sound chip and it works with UNIAUD.  There are also drivers on Hobbes for some of the ADI chips.

I don't think that ADI has anything to do with it.

The first sound card is defined as (from PCI):

Code: [Select]
Bus 0 (PCI Express), Device Number 1, Device Function 1
 Vendor 1002h Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
 Device 9902h Trinity HDMI Audio Controller
 Command 0007h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster)
 Status 0010h (Has Capabilities List, Fast Timing)
 Revision 00h, Header Type 80h, Bus Latency Timer 00h
 Self test 00h (Self test not supported)
 Cache line size 64 Bytes (16 DWords)
 PCI Class Multimedia, type Unknown!
 Subsystem ID 85261043h Unknown
 Subsystem Vendor 1043h ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
 Address 0 is a Memory Address (0-4GiB) : FEB44000h..FEB47FFFh
 System IRQ 18, INT# B
 New Capabilities List Present:
   Power Management Capability, Version 1.2
     Supports low power State D1
     Supports low power State D2
     Does not support PME# signalling
     Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving)
   PCI Express Capability, Version 2
     Device/Port Type :
       Root Complex Integrated Endpoint Device
       Unsupported Request Severity is Fatal
     Device Status :
     Link Capabilities :
       Maximum Link speed : Unknown (00h)!!
       Maximum Link Width : xReserved
       Link Port Number   : 0
     Link Control :
       Asynchronous Clocking in Use
     Link Status :
       Current Link speed : Unknown (00)!!
       Current Link Width : x0
   Message Signalled Interrupt Capability
     MSI is disabled
     MSI function can generate 64-bit addresses

The second appears to be:

Code: [Select]
Bus 0 (PCI Express), Device Number 20, Device Function 2
 Vendor 1022h Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
 Device 780Dh FCH Azalia Controller
 Command 0006h (Memory Access, BusMaster)
 Status 0410h (Has Capabilities List, Slow Timing)
 Revision 01h, Header Type 00h, Bus Latency Timer 20h
 Self test 00h (Self test not supported)
 Cache line size 64 Bytes (16 DWords)
 PCI Class Multimedia, type Unknown!
 Subsystem ID 85761043h F2A85-M Series (Guess Only!)
 Subsystem Vendor 1043h ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
 Address 0 is a Memory Address (64-bit) : FEB40000h..FEB43FFFh
 System IRQ 16, INT# -
 New Capabilities List Present:
   Power Management Capability, Version 1.1
     Does not support low power State D1 or D2
     Supports PME# signalling from mode(s) D0, D3hot, D3cold
     PME# signalling is currently disabled
     3.3v AUX Current required : 55 mA
     Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving)

I think the second one will work, if I can, somehow, disable the first one.

FWIW, I have a Lenovo ThinkPad L530, that seems to have the same type of problem, although I can get sound out of it with UNIMIX. It sounds like it has a two minute reverb set.

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 03:31:22 am »
Are these two not two parts of the same unit? One (AMD) being a HDAudio UART and the other a HDAudio A/DAC?

It is very common with modern chipsets and even some older NVIDIA ones, the basic HDAudio or 97 interface hardware being on the southbridge and a cheap A/DAC chip handling the actual hardware interface, sometimes on a PCI/PCIe lane, sometimes on a USB bus, in those cases the driver should be generic and talk to the UART.

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2015, 06:49:25 pm »
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Are these two not two parts of the same unit? One (AMD) being a HDAudio UART and the other a HDAudio A/DAC?

It could be, but it is the first one that I have encountered. I will need to find some time to sort it out. Meanwhile, the SB Live! seems to work well in eCS, and not at all in Win7.

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Re: Soundblaster live & Sander's driver
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2016, 05:31:45 pm »
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Are these two not two parts of the same unit? One (AMD) being a HDAudio UART and the other a HDAudio A/DAC?

It could be, but it is the first one that I have encountered. I will need to find some time to sort it out. Meanwhile, the SB Live! seems to work well in eCS, and not at all in Win7.

Old post, I known but I thought I would place it here for future reference, I managed to get both OS/2 and Windows using the same SB Live card by using the Kx drivers on the Windows side rather than the hacked version of the official drivers. Moreover my old eMU card appears to work on these drivers as well although I cannot get it to work on OS/2 at all.

 http://www.kxproject.com

Similarly, since the old Dell x600 "Workstation" cards are still just about the best VGA cards that still work on SNAP but are wonky on Windows, it turns out that the driver works just fine on windows, it is the DirectX setup that was the problem and after patching the DX drivers the x600 now works fine on both Windows 10 32 and 64 bit (occasionally minor hiccups during the boot process on W10 32 and boards with the old ATI 600 chipsets) and annoyingly enough is faster than the Radeon HD6450 that it replaced displaying 2D on Windows, considerably even.