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Networking / Re: Any benefit to running dual/quad port NIC?
« on: February 10, 2015, 11:30:56 pm »
Olafur,  with most small NAS boxes the second ethernet port is only usable as a failover and then only if the managed switch will allow it.

Dariusz,  On a workstation there is little use for a second ethernet port especially since OS/2 doesn't have the necessary software to make use of the failover ability.  If you intend to use your new workstation as a firewall device then there would be a use for the second port - first port input from the wan and second port output to the internal lan.  Other than that they are usually used in servers either as failover or for running different subnets.

You are buying the wrong NAS boxes ....

Other than filtering, you can use the second port for IPX network, I use this so I can keep my music computers connected to the internal network while at the same time off the net (IPX is not routable), useful also for testing DOS networks ...

Networking / Re: Any benefit to running dual/quad port NIC?
« on: February 10, 2015, 03:35:03 pm »
Looking at eBay I'm finding a pile of ads for multi-port NICs. Is there an advantage to doing this on our platform? Or is this merely something useful for servers where you do run separate interfaces?

It does have advantages although mostly for servers or for speed reasons, but I sometimes use them to create separate subsystem either for compatibility reasons or for filtering, one computer acting as a filter for the rest of the system. it is possible to do that without a dual Ethernet, but it is a practical and psychological division of nets if you have two interface that helps with getting your head around it

They also have an advantage if you have Ethernet disks or NAS boxes that have more than one Ethernet port, your disk/NAS can be on a separate net for internal use that can be filtered from the rest of the net and still work via the other port over the internet running bittorent, email or whatever services you need. Also on the average having a separate connection for the disk/NAS is slightly faster than having it on the same net as the rest of the network even if it is only an internet connection.

Hardware / Re: Any luck with Azarawicz's new NIC driver for RealTek?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:53:56 pm »
I found which is David's BETA release of the chipset driver

The main problem that I see, with Realtek NICs, is that they are SLOW (even in windows, they are much slower than Intel NICs). This seems to be a known drawback with them, on all platforms, but it seems that they are cheap, so manufacturers keep on using them. FWIW, I would not be surprised if your 100 mbs 3c905B would be just as fast as a 1000 mbs Realtek device.

They are in no way slower than the Intel Nics, they do have a very conservative handshake implementation and need to have their settings tweaked to force them to connect to switches at full speed, but that is something you should do to any NIC any-ways.

Hardware / Re: 20 Years OS/2 Warp - my new Video!
« on: January 25, 2015, 06:55:03 am »
Gregg, thanks to Sigurd I just found out also that Sony is no longer producing laptops anymore :)

Bought by JAI

This are only my opinions about it, but I don't think "Translations and Localization" should be set as priority, only as a nice to have. (for the moment). I really prefer if some spark can be ignited to try to clone (as open source) important components of the platform (PM, WPS, SOM).

So users that do not understand English should do what?

Eff off?

Your "nice to have" is someone else's "must"

And as for coding replacements versus "wasting time on translations", everyone that understands more than one language can contribute a little as far as translations go, this is not just a "from English" game, there are tools out there that do not exist in English, although they are fewer than they used to be.

On the other hand only a small subset of OS/2 users can code, an even smaller subset has the needed reverse engineering skills, a smaller still subset has systems programming skills, and of that subset only a minuscule portion is willing to give up their free time to meet "your objectives" because

a) They have their own objectives
b) With those skills they can sell their time and have no interest in offering it for free
c) They are not interested in going backwards by replacing 20+ year old code with identically behaving code, they want a replacement "inspired by" not exactly as OS/2

and so on, so forth

So we should not be discouraging people to help with translations and so on, but the other way around, encouraging them to do anything to help.

Networking / Re: xmas message for nerds
« on: December 29, 2014, 08:15:07 pm »
Gave me a strange FIDONET flashback ........

Mail-News / Re: Send email from commandline (actually a rexx script)
« on: December 13, 2014, 01:35:24 pm »

There was also WebMail/2, the later versions were compartmentalised enough so you might be able to rip off some of the scripts used, I recall that the last versions never showed up on hobbes and I had to get them off

General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: December 04, 2014, 11:56:07 pm »

eComStation - Secure in its masculinity, whatever happens.

General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: December 04, 2014, 11:45:45 pm »
Well these old public domain woodcuts and engravings are fun to play around with:

Since Microsoft seems to like to put their stores near Apple stores, perhaps the eComStation store could be near either the Apple or Microsoft store?  :P

How about close to a Charity Shop?

General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: December 04, 2014, 06:05:25 pm »
A) Should it not be a dancing elephant? Tutu optional

B) An elephant looking straight ahead is too much like the Postgresql and other open source logos

There are some old PD images that might be a start:

The alternative is a war elephant:

Marketplace / Re: ebay Stuff
« on: December 03, 2014, 07:36:34 am »
There are loads of NOS (New old stock) OS/2 products on eBay UK and US now for some reason, alongside a few used items, mostly individual sellers (cleaning up before Christmas ?). But alongside the usual used copies of OS2 2.1 and 3 there are a number of shrink wrapped Microsoft and borland applications and 1.x and 2.0 versions of the OS.

Applications / Re: BrainStorm: Wish list for OS/2 and eComStation
« on: December 03, 2014, 06:33:12 am »
A third vote for MIDI. OS/2 is (was? I think it still IS) far superior to Windows when it comes to timers and time resolution is the key factor in MIDI handling.

We have/had a great MIDI sequencing software (MIDI Station Sequencer) and some interesting experiments in score editors (like my ABC and Mup ports). So it's a start.

I know someone who is working on this, but preliminary work only in his spare time, I did some work on this around 2000, the issues then were:

RTMIDI was/is hopeless, Timur Tabi had done a partial MIDI implementation and then stopped work on it, he promised to supply source code but that never happened so the 2 or 3 major projects that actually used RTMIDI had to stop development including MIDI Station and AudioStation, the code as it was did not even support MIDI sysex passing, it was so basic. It was also in retrospect probably the wrong way around in the way it was implemented, instead of implementing MIDI functions it should have passed them through and concentrated on controlling the basics of the protocol and act as a timing reference, much simpler.

It would make a lot more sense to start again with something that emulates the MIDI part of VST3 (not the VST3 specification but the control section only, it is a bit like MIDI++), and then have MIDI as a subsystem of that, no need to implement the specifics, let the application or plugin handle that.

The basic Multimedia audio subsystem is ancient, it has seen no work on it since OS/2 2.0, it needs to be looked at, unusually since it was one of the few things that had been written from scratch by IBM so Serenity Systems said they could actually get the source for that as well, but that never happened either. While it functions perfectly well as it is, or reasonably well depending on what axis you look at it, the issue is if you want to support something that did not exist at the time of its original like DSD (HQ 1bit audio), multichannel audio processing (for music making or home cinema) or very low latency audio (not needed for MM but for music making), you might as well start from scratch.

The other reason that you might want to rewrite the audio subsystem is that modern microprocessors have SMID and other DSP functions that did not exist at all when the original  MM subsystem was developed, a simple module or plug-in architecture that would allow audio processing to take advantage of this without going through the complexities of what we have with current windows and Linux solutions that are all over-ambitious

All in all the audio portion is actually not that big a project, not compared to other parts of the system, but it needs someone that knowns what he is doing, or is willing to learn.

Article Discussions / Re: [Arca Noae] So, what would you like to see next?
« on: November 27, 2014, 09:57:46 pm »
- PM is the OS/2 GUI
- WPS is the desktop shell. The objects that organize the GUI to create the desktop interpretation (based on a real's world desktop) of the OS. WPS requires SOM and PM to show itself as it is.

Yes, but you see, the PM is just a port of Visi/On, a quick and dirty solution to getting OS/2 v1.1 out of the house in a form resembling what they had promised their larger customers. As a graphics engine and GUI it was backwards even when released, never mind 2015, some 30 years later, and yes the Micrografx engine that is used in 2.x and higher helps but it is something of a kludge. API emulation, binary emulation or partial emulation is fine for getting older software to run, but recreating it is sheer madness.

The WPS and the original OS/2 2.0/CUA 91 metaphor is on the other hand pure genius and needs to be preserved if only in a vague work-alike, just look at MacOS X, they have been talking about a fully object oriented front end since they released the first NeXT in 1988 and still have not managed to tie together something resembling a coherent vision, or fully object oriented for that matter.

You should track down the old DOS demo presentation of CUA91 and watch it, that was what OS/2 2.x was meant to be, and we almost got it. The concept of non-modal software is something that we got in lots of early IBM software but then slowly disappeared as OS/2 software got more Windows like (or Linux like, since all Linux shells ape windows down to a tee). We are starting to see non-modal software concepts on mobile phones and tablets since it is a concept that makes sense, and is genuinely one less thing to worry about for an end user that is using a tool rather than what his/hers life centres around, but desktop software seems to be going backwards.

...... sheeeesh ........ ranting on the Internet ..... a sign of fast approaching old age I suppose

Article Discussions / Re: [Arca Noae] So, what would you like to see next?
« on: November 25, 2014, 08:49:29 pm »
I will really like to see small, but continued effort to clone OS/2 Presentation Manager since it is an important component in the OS/2-eCS experience.  OS/2 PM API is big, but the idea is to start small selecting which are the components that needs update/replacement first.

Clone the WPS, the PM is 80's code and concepts that needs to be retired. The effort of more or less straight cloning of OS/2 like OSFree is going to have the same end result as Haiku had in the BeOS world, by the time it becomes a workable system, everyone has lost interest and moved on, all vendors have disappeared and the community not big enough to support itself.

Something like this:

With a x86  emulation layer or virtualiser if on an x86 system, on top of the OS that allows us to run eCS-OS/2 as the front end of the system while we code a modern WPS replacement and tool set, if the base OS becomes outdated or unsupported or in some way undesirable, simply port the emulation layer and WPS replacement/Modern OS/2 API to a new system.

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