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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 19, 2018, 08:15:16 am »
Here is one of the many themes I made years ago.  Works good with eCS.  This is the red folder theme.  I also have it in black and yellow.  I also have smoke and purple glass folders themes and others.  All folders are based on Linux folders.  I have attached one if anyone wants to try.  I had problems running these themes on ArcaOS.  Done in wpi so they can be removed.  Before installing, it is a good idea to back up the desktop.

Start the wpi and see a screen shot.  Can always cancel the install afterwards.

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 15, 2018, 10:32:25 am »
Martin

I have to apologize.  I was getting eschemes mixed up with the icon toolkit.  Like I said, it has been around 5 years or longer since I last messed with either one.  A lot has been forgotten.  The html from the toolket does an excellent job describing what what needs to be done, which I have attached.  Be sure and read the credits at the bottom of the page.

David

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Mail-News / Re: Is PMMail still being maintained?
« on: January 13, 2018, 06:05:38 am »
Here are four of the five main folder icons.  A picture and a zip containing them.  I could not decide on the PMMail help icon.  I created two for those that want something other than a book.

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 13, 2018, 06:03:28 am »
I have attached a few more Blue portal icons.

David

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 13, 2018, 03:59:05 am »
I counted in the neighborhood of 227 icons.  Each icon was asigned a number.  I have a pic attached.

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 13, 2018, 03:20:36 am »
Hi Martin

Not right off hand.  The Russian eSchemes packages should give one a good idea of most of the folder and icon replacements they thought necessary.  I played around and developed a bunch of schemes (for better or worst) years back.  I will have to look in one of my icon scheme development folders to count the number of icons they considered important provided I can find one.

David

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 12, 2018, 05:42:25 am »
Clear portal folders

The second attachment

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 12, 2018, 05:41:15 am »
I just finished my clear portal folders,  I have broke it into two zip files.

The first attachment

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Mail-News / Re: Is PMMail still being maintained?
« on: January 12, 2018, 05:09:42 am »
I am thinking the original icons were bitmaps.
All icons are bitmaps or arrays of bitmaps.

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I know FM/2, Filestar2, and Dr. Dialog use bitmaps for their display icons.  The advantage is you make just one size, usually 32x32.  I have the old  PMMail listing and it was done in bitmap.
You're talking about image files for the button bar?

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OS/2 ico aren't the greatest due to the way all OS2 versions handle them. Any light color on the edge is treated as white.  This looks bad unless one goes in and deletes or darkens the colors.
So the Windows ICO files look better under OS/2? An average graphics designer should know how to use colours properly.

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This is why a lot of the OS/2 icons have a blocked chunky edge. It also requires that each icon have several sizes.
Absolutely wrong.

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You can have one size, but then one relies on WPS to render the icons in the size needed, which a lot of the time is not great.
In fact it doesn't rely on Workplace Shell at all. Icons are rendered by the Presentation device driver. Perhaps you're simply using a sloppy display driver. Before spreading such claims it would be advisable to check against different different output devices or configurations.

Andreas

You are right.  I am no graphic designer and what little I know is from trial and error and working with them.  I have had not had the teaching,  training, and no one to advise me on anything.  It is one of the reasons I did not try to learn programming.  I stand corrected for my ignorance.  I would like to say that if any icon was that simple, everyone would be doing them.  I have used various display graphic cards.  A lot of the problems are not noticeable when the background is white, such as when you open a folder.  It is the dark backgrounds where the flaws start showing.  I do thank you for your information because now I know.

David

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Mail-News / Re: Is PMMail still being maintained?
« on: January 12, 2018, 04:53:22 am »
Trying to contact you Neil.  It won't go through.  I am interested in trying to improving the icons and graphics.

David Graser

dwgras@swbell.net

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Mail-News / Re: Is PMMail still being maintained?
« on: January 12, 2018, 02:31:07 am »
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Is PMMail still be developed?

The answer is yes, and no. Currently, there is no developer working on it. I, and a few others, tweak it sometimes, when we can, but I am not a programmer, so I can't do much with it.

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No promises, but if it is still being maintained, it would be worth while to try to update the graphics.

The icons were tweaked years ago, and that turned into a bit of a marathon, to try to get them to actually work properly. The original icons, in PMMail before 3.x, were not standard OS/2 icons, and a lot of the code needed to be updated to handle normal icons. Most icons were created from the non standard ones, so they didn't change much. At least they are now proper OS/2 icons.

I am thinking the original icons were bitmaps.  I know FM/2, Filestar2, and Dr. Dialog use bitmaps for their display icons.  The advantage is you make just one size, usually 32x32.  I have the old  PMMail listing and it was done in bitmap.

OS/2 ico aren't the greatest due to the way all OS2 versions handle them. Any light color on the edge is treated as white.  This looks bad unless one goes in and deletes or darkens the colors.  This is why a lot of the OS/2 icons have a blocked chunky edge. It also requires that each icon have several sizes.  You can have one size, but then one relies on WPS to render the icons in the size needed, which a lot of the time is not great.

That said, I did my first icon, although, not great, is far better than the one used now.  I have attached so I can see it better on a larger screen.

I have managed to improve on this original one.  There are a few tricks I have learned after doing them over the years.

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Applications / Re: Mouse Pointers
« on: January 11, 2018, 06:25:50 pm »
The ArcaOS group may want to consider giving ArcaOS the ability to use both 32x32 and 40x40 ptrs.  The computer screens are getting bigger and as a result the mouse objects are getting smaller and smaller.  At my job, we had to get the Windows software installers to enable tails (industrial software that we the end users can't customize ourselves) because we use multiple screens and nobody could find the pointers due to their small size.

David

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Mail-News / Is PMMail still being maintained?
« on: January 11, 2018, 07:27:14 am »
Is PMMail still be developed?  If so, can someone tell me what size bitmaps are built into the mailer?  I may take a stab at updating the bitmaps if I can find time.  No promises, but if it is still being maintained, it would be worth while to try to update the graphics.

David

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 11, 2018, 07:07:41 am »
This is a preview of the Clear folder portals.  I now refer to my desktop as ArcaOS Dimensions.  By uploading, I can see what they look like on a different bigger screen computer.

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Applications / Re: Dynamic Icons
« on: January 10, 2018, 06:26:19 pm »
Looks good.
About performance, I think the problem is actually losing address space in the lower arena causing programs to fail quicker. This could be tested with Theseus by measuring memory with and without the dynamic icons.

Hi Dave

Being a non programmer, I may have thought this out to the wrong conclusion.  This would would be true for the more portals one opens.  Does ArcaOS load all the portals (folders) into memory on boot-up or does it load into memory only those portals that are open?  If the latter is true, then one would probably have to open many portals before the lower memory is exhausted.  There again, it may depend on how much memory one has installed on their computer. One can see in some of my uploaded pics that I have quite a few portals open without any degradation.  Is my non programming analysis wrong? 

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