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Setup & Installation / Re: Question about OS/2 3.5 floppy image files
« on: February 25, 2017, 07:18:37 am »
I want to load OS/2 onto a (real) computer with a (real) 3.5 floppy drive. So I down load OS/2 WARP 4.0 (3.5) from the Winworld Library and unzip it. Yikes! 111 image files. Before I go out and buy a crate of 3.5 floppies

I won't explain what is going on, because it doesn't matter. If you use the right image files, then you can install OS/2 Warp 4 by using 3.5" floppies without any weird disk full-errors. If you have two computers with such a drive, e.g. a second $5-$10 old one, then you can create the next floppy while installing the current one. That works most of the time. You won't need all image files during the install. Additionally you may want to install a Y2K-proof FixPak too, which also requires floppies.

With a second computer you also don't have to create floppies to be able to execute a bootdrive CHKDSK, so installing OS/2 Warp 4 requires 1 (bare minimum) or 2 (efficient production line) floppies. A second computer should be cheaper than a crate of floppies.

If the machine in question has no CD-ROM drive, they you already may have a second computer to create the floppies, so you'll need 1 or 2 standard 1.44 MiB 3.5" floppies.

182
Applications / Re: Regina REXX vs. OS/2 REXX
« on: February 24, 2017, 06:11:15 pm »
how do you see the possibility to replace OS/2 REXX library included in eCS-Warp4.52 with the open source Regina REXX

Finally a lack of relevant reactions implies that (1) you'll have to use the open source code to create an own embedded release for OS/2, and (2) you'll have to apply/document a few OS/2-specific changes (including but not limited to dealing with tokenized code, the //T argument, online help, and so on) to release a reasonably seamless version.

The existing open source code can be compiled, unlike OORexx', but it's not as easy as changing the target to a DLL. Step 2 is the hardest one. Without this step, it will not (always) work as expected. If it doesn't work as expected, then experienced users may as well skip step 1, use the existing Regina.EXE for OS/2 instead of one of IBM's REXX.DLLs, and remember the differences.

183
Programming / Re: Rexx?
« on: February 24, 2017, 05:05:14 pm »
may be able to be compiled (with e.g. REXX2EXE) if they are 'plain' REXX

One of the rather expensive Rexx compilers, which actually should be quite easy to write, was shipped with a fully functional RexxPack utility. RexxPack used to be a product on its own, AFAICT. An improved version of RexxPack can be found here: http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/incoming/delayed/packrexx.zip

Interestingly it decreases the size of the EAs too, so it should improve the speed of execution slightly. Registration may be required to receive some undo-utility. I guess RexxPack just removes all unneeded characters, without overdoing it. In theory you could use RexxPack to produce a hard-to-edit smaller file, and Rexx2EXE to create a "compiled", smaller, unreadable final product.

Please do execute our Rexx EXEs with Object REXX too, to make sure that there are no fatal syntax errors. The same syntax check applies to VX-REXX (with PackVXRX) EXEs.

184
Storage / Re: Someone has seen this before os2.ini
« on: February 02, 2017, 09:51:43 am »
Are the full disk size and the free disk size, as reported by manually executing "CHKDSK", roughly the expected sizes?

If not, then what are the partition (order & sizes)? There may be an exceeded limit.

Same experience here as Andi: disk (almost) full.

185
Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: February 02, 2017, 09:42:01 am »
Daily Savings Time (DST) (which I assume is the same as what you describe as "summer time" is in effect .

Correct. In Europe "DST" may represent the whole system of using winter time and summer time, instead of one specific period with an adjusted time. Over there you have to know that "summer time" is DST, and that "winter time" is the normal time.

186
Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: February 02, 2017, 08:08:35 am »
Are you saying that actual time differences from GMT can be used rather than the text pair?  If so I will give that a try because using Europe/Paris just gives GMT, not the one hour advance of it that it should.
Actually the quoted comments are saying that, and the sample file doesn't use Unix' text pair for the North Pole.

Apparently "Europe/Paris" (or a Unix text representing 2:00) is required for Auto DST, so using a number may introduce manual adjustments twice per year. So you may have to append NVSN 4.0 to a list of apps with a manual DST setting.

My earlier list of cities, a combination of several default OS/2 lists, always used the text for France.

If you weren't loving Unix solutions yet, then surely you must love Unix solutions by now... :)

187
Setup & Installation / Re: Installing Warp 4 on a Thinkpad 560 over network
« on: February 02, 2017, 07:26:41 am »
looks like I'll have to get another installation running first.  Hopefully I can do that using the CDs, a modern Windows OS and a USB floppy.

At least it's not as challenging as a 560Z. If using your memory's network install is not a goal on its own, then using nothing but floppies, including but not limited to floppies to install a Y2K-proof FixPak (ftp://service.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes), may be more efficient than finding out how a less boring  network install used to work.

188
Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: February 01, 2017, 12:49:49 am »
Part 2:

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Nairobi, Kenya                   36:49  -1:19 Africa/Nairobi
Nancy, France                     6:12  48:42 Europe/Paris
Nantes, France                  -01:35  47:14 Europe/Paris
Nashville, Tennessee            -86:50  36:10 -5:00
Nassau, Bahamas                 -77:20  25:05 America/Nassau
New Delhi, India                 77:12  28:36 Asia/Calcutta
New York City, New York, USA    -74:00  40:45 America/New_York
New-Castle, Delaware            -75:43  39:40 -5:00
New-Delhi, India                 77:12  28:36 Asia/Kolkata
Newark, Delaware                -75:45  39:42 -5:00
Niskayuna, New York             -73:50  42:46 America/New_York
Niwot, Colorado, USA           -105:10  40:06 America/Denver
North Pole, GMT Time              0:00  90:00 0:00
North-York, Canada              -79:26  43:44 -5:00
Norwalk, Connecticut            -73:25  41:07 -5:00
Oakland, California            -122:15  37:50 -8:00
Omaha, Nebraska                 -96:01  41:17 -6:00
Orange, Texas                   -93:44  30:06 -6:00
Orlando, Florida                -81:21  28:33 -5:00
Orleans, France                   1:54  47:54 Europe/Paris
Orly, France                      2:24  48:45 Europe/Paris
Osaka, Japan                    135:30  34:40 Asia/Tokyo
Oslo, Norway                     10:45  59:56 Europe/Oslo
Owego, New York                 -76:16  42:06 America/New_York
Palm-Springs, California       -116:33  33:50 -8:00
Palo-Alto, California          -122:10  37:26 -8:00
Panama-City, Panama             -79:32   8:58 America/Panama
Paris, France                     2:21  48:52 Europe/Paris
Parkersburg, West Virginia      -81:32  39:17 -5:00
Perth, Australia                115:49 -31:58 Australia/Perth
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania      -75:10  40:00 -5:00
Phoenix, Arizona, USA          -112:05  33:27 America/Phoenix
Pisa, Italy                      10:24  43:43 Europe/Rome
Piscataway, New Jersey          -74:23  40:29 -5:00
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania        -80:00  40:26 -5:00
Port-of-Spain, Trinidad         -61:31  10:38 America/Port_of_Spain
Porto, Portugal                 -08:37  41:09 Europe/Lisbon
Portsmouth, United Kingdom      -01:05  50:48 Europe/London
Poughkeepsie, New York          -73:56  41:43 America/New_York
Princeton, New Jersey           -74:40  40:21 -5:00
Purchase, New York              -73:43  41:02 America/New_York
Quito, Ecuador                  -78:30  -0:13 America/Guayaquil
Raleigh, North Carolina         -78:39  35:46 -5:00
Rangoon, Myanmar                 96:10  16:47 Asia/Rangoon
Reading, Pennsylvania           -75:55  40:20 -5:00
Redmond, Washington            -122:07  47:40 -8:00
Redwood-City, California       -122:15  37:28 -8:00
Reston, Virginia                -77:21  39:02 -5:00
Reykjavik, Iceland              -21:52  64:10 Atlantic/Reykjavik
Richmond, Virginia              -77:26  37:34 -5:00
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil          -43:09 -22:56 America/Sao_Paulo
Roanoke, Texas                  -97:14  33:00 -6:00
Rochester, Minnesota            -92:27  44:01 -6:00
Rochester, New York             -77:37  43:12 America/New_York
Rockville, Maryland             -77:10  39:05 -5:00
Rome, Italy                      12:31  41:52 Europe/Rome
Roseland, New Jersey            -74:13  40:49 -5:00
Sacramento, California         -121:30  38:32 -8:00
Saint-Louis, Missouri           -90:15  38:40 -6:00
Sainte-Marie, France              2:54  44:53 Europe/Paris
Salt Lake City, Utah, USA      -111:53  40:45 America/Denver
Samarkand, Uzbekistan            66:36  39:24 Asia/Tashkent
San-Diego, California          -117:09  32:43 -8:00
San-Francisco, California      -122:27  37:45 -8:00
San-Jose, California           -121:55  37:20 -8:00
San-Jose, Costa Rica            -84:04   9:59 America/Costa_Rica
San-Ramon, California          -121:58  37:47 -8:00
San-Salvador, El Salvador       -89:10  13:40 America/El_Salvador
Santa-Clara, California        -121:58  37:21 -8:00
Santa-Cruz, Tenerife            -16:15  28:20 Atlantic/Canary
Santiago, Chile                 -70:40 -33:30 America/Santiago
Santo-Domingo, Dom. Rep.        -69:57  18:30 Amercia/Santo_Domingo
Sao-Paulo, Brazil               -46:39 -23:33 America/Sao_Paulo
Schaumburg, Illinois            -88:05  42:02 -6:00
Scranton, Pennsylvania          -75:40  41:25 -5:00
Seattle, Washington, USA       -122:18  47:34 America/Los_Angeles
Segrate, Italy                    9:19  45:29 Europe/Rome
Seoul, South Korea              127:00  37:32 Asia/Seoul
Shanghai, China                 121:28  31:14 Asia/Shanghai
Sindelfingen, Germany             9:01  48:43 Europe/Berlin
Singapore, Singapore            103:51   1:14 Asia/Singapore
Somers, New York                -73:41  41:20 America/New_York
South Pole, GMT Time              0:00 -90:00 0:00
Southbury, Connecticut          -73:13  41:28 -5:00
Southfield, Michigan            -83:16  42:28 -5:00
Southlake, Texas                -97:09  32:56 -6:00
Springfield, Illinois           -89:39  39:49 -6:00
St. Louis, Missouri, USA        -90:15  38:37 America/Chicago
St. Petersburg, Russia           30:21  59:57 Europe/Moscow
St.-Paul, Minnesota             -93:10  45:00 -6:00
Stamford, Connecticut           -73:32  41:03 -5:00
Stavanger, Norway                 5:40  58:57 Europe/Oslo
Sterling-Forest, New York       -74:16  41:10 America/New_York
Stevenage, United Kingdom       -00:11  51:54 Europe/London
Stockholm, Sweden                18:10  59:20 Europe/Stockholm
Sudbury, United Kingdom         -00:14  51:34 Europe/London
Sunnyvale, California          -122:01  37:23 -8:00
Sydney, Australia               151:13 -33:54 Australia/Sydney
Tacoma, Washington             -122:30  47:16 -8:00
Taipei, Taiwan                  121:31  25:02 Asia/Taipei
Tampa, Florida                  -82:38  27:58 -5:00
Tarrytown, New York             -73:51  41:05 America/New_York
Tegucigalpa, Honduras           -87:14  14:05 America/Tegucigalpa
Tehran, Iran                     51:25  35:40 Asia/Tehran
Tel-Aviv, Israel                 34:46  32:05 Asia/Tel_Aviv
Thornwood, New York             -73:46  41:07 America/New_York
Tokyo, Japan                    139:47  35:41 Asia/Tokyo
Topeka, Kansas                  -95:41  39:02 -6:00
Toronto, Canada                 -79:23  43:41 America/Toronto
Towanda, Pennsylvania           -76:27  41:46 -5:00
Tripoli, Libya                   13:12  32:50 Africa/Tripoli
Troy, Michigan                  -83:09  42:34 -5:00
Tucson, Arizona                -110:57  32:15 -7:00
Tulsa, Oklahoma                 -95:58  36:07 -6:00
Uithoorn, Netherlands             4:48  52:14 Europe/Amsterdam
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia           106:54  47:53 Asia/Ulan_Bator
Utrecht, Netherlands              5:07  52:06 Europe/Amsterdam
Valencia, Spain                   0:24  39:29 Europe/Madrid
Vancouver, Canada              -123:07  49:16 America/Vancouver
Vestal, New York                -76:03  42:05 America/New_York
Victoria, Texas                 -97:00  28:43 -6:00
Vienna, Austria                  16:22  48:12 Europe/Vienna
Vimercate, Italy                  9:22  45:37 Europe/Rome
Vladivostok, Russia             131:58  43:02 Asia/Vladivostok
Waltham, Massachusetts          -71:14  42:23 -5:00
Wangaratta, Australia           146:20 -36:22 Australia/Melbourne
Wappingers-Falls, New York      -73:55  41:36 America/New_York
Warwick, United Kingdom         -01:34  52:17 Europe/London
Washington, D.C., USA           -77:00  38:54 America/New_York
Wayne, Pennsylvania             -75:23  40:03 -5:00
Wellington, New Zealand         174:48 -41:16 Pacific/Auckland
West-Orange, New Jersey         -74:14  40:48 -5:00
Westboro, Massachusetts         -71:37  42:17 -5:00
Westlake, Texas                 -97:12  32:59 -6:00
White-Plains, New York          -73:46  41:02 America/New_York
Wilmington, Delaware            -75:31  39:46 -5:00
Winchester, United Kingdom      -01:19  51:04 Europe/London
Winnipeg, Canada                -97:10  49:53 America/Winnipeg
Winston-Salem, N.Carolina       -80:15  36:05 -5:00
Woodland-Hills, California     -118:35  34:11 -8:00
Yamato, Japan                   130:30  33:08 Asia/Tokyo
Yasu, Japan                     136:01  35:03 Asia/Tokyo
Yorktown-Heights, New York      -73:47  41:17 America/New_York
Zoetermeer, Netherlands           4:22  52:03 Europe/Amsterdam
Zurich, Switzerland               8:33  47:23 Europe/Zurich

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Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: February 01, 2017, 12:49:00 am »
Cosmos/2: Brussels,_Belgium                +1:00   04:21  50:50
NVSN v2.6: Antwerp, Belgium             4:25  51:13   1:00
NVSN v4.0: Antwerp, Belgium                  4:25  51:13 Europe/Brussels

This should be a full, unverified, unofficial list of all known default locations, NVSN v4's file format. In America I couldn't always be arsed to find a perfect TZ string, so NVSN v4's Auto DST may not work (to fix: modify the line in nvlocations.txt). Do not forget to insert your own town if you're going to use this whole list, and perhaps make sure that NVSN v4 can still find your default town.

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Aachen, Germany                   6:06  50:46 Europe/Berlin
Aberdeen, Scotland               -2:07  57:10 Europe/London
Addis Ababa, Ethiopia            38:47   9:00 Africa/Addis_Ababa
Adelaide, Australia             138:35 -34:54 Australia/Adelaide
Amsterdam, Netherlands            4:54  52:21 Europe/Amsterdam
Anchorage, Alaska, USA         -149:53  61:13 America/Anchorage
Ankara, Turkey                   32:50  39:55 Europe/Istanbul
Ann-Arbor, Michigan             -83:43  42:18 -5:00
Antwerp, Belgium                  4:25  51:13 Europe/Brussels
Armonk, New York                -73:43  41:08 America/New_York
Athens, Greece                   23:44  38:00 Europe/Athens
Atlanta, Georgia                -84:23  33:45 -5:00
Austin, Texas                   -97:45  30:17 -6:00
Bad-Homburg, Germany              8:37  50:13 Europe/Berlin
Baltimore, Maryland             -76:38  39:18 -5:00
Bangkok, Thailand               100:35  13:41 Asia/Bangkok
Barcelona, Spain                  2:10  41:25 Europe/Madrid
Basel, Switzerland                7:36  47:33 Europe/Zurich
Basingstoke, UK                 -01:05  51:16 Europe/London
Beaumont, Texas                 -94:06  30:05 -6:00
Beaverton, Oregon              -122:49  45:29 -8:00
Beijin, China                   116:23  39:55 Asia/Shanghai
Beirut, Lebanon                  35:30  33:53 Asia/Beirut
Bergen, Norway                    5:20  60:23 Europe/Oslo
Berkeley, California           -122:17  37:53 -8:00
Berlin, Germany                  13:23  52:32 Europe/Berlin
Bern, Switzerland                 7:26  46:57 Europe/Zurich
Besancon, France                  6:02  47:14 Europe/Paris
Bethesda, Maryland              -77:05  39:00 -5:00
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania         -75:22  40:36 -5:00
Blacksburg, Virginia            -80:25  37:15 -5:00
Boca-Raton, Florida             -80:05  26:22 -5:00
Boeblingen, Germany               9:01  48:41 Europe/Berlin
Bogota, Columbia                -74:05   4:38 America/Bogota
Bordeaux, France                -00:34  44:50 Europe/Paris
Boston, Massachusetts           -71:05  42:20 -5:00
Boulder, Colorado, USA         -105:17  40:01 America/Denver
Brasilia, Brazil                -47:54 -15:48 America/Sao_Paulo
Brevard, North-Carolina         -82:46  35:31 -5:00
Bridgetown, Barbados            -59:37  13:06 America/Barbados
Brisbane, Australia             153:00 -27:30 Australia/Brisbane
Brussels, Belgium                 4:21  50:50 Europe/Brussels
Buenos Aires, Argentina         -58:26 -34:36 America/Buenos_Aires
Burbank, California            -118:19  34:11 -8:00
Burlington, Vermont             -73:14  44:28 -5:00
Cairo, Egypt                     31:15  30:00 Africa/Cairo
Calcutta, India                  88:22  22:34 Asia/Calcutta
Calgary, Canada                -114:06  51:03 America/Edmonton
Cambridge, Massachusetts        -71:06  42:22 -5:00
Campinas, Brazil                -47:06 -22:54 -3:00
Canberra, Australia             149:08 -35:18 Australia/Canberra
Cape Town, South Africa          18:24 -33:54 Africa/Johannesburg
Caracas, Venezuela              -66:55  10:31 America/Caracas
Cary, North Carolina            -78:48  35:47 -5:00
Casablanca, Morocco              -7:42  33:36 Africa/Casablanca
Charleston, West Virginia       -81:40  38:23 -5:00
Charlotte, North Carolina       -80:50  35:03 -5:00
Chicago, Illinois, USA          -87:39  41:52 America/Chicago
Chiswick, United Kingdom        -00:18  51:28 Europe/London
Cincinnati, Ohio                -84:30  39:10 -5:00
Cleveland, Ohio                 -81:41  41:30 -5:00
Colorado-Springs, Colorado     -104:49  38:50 -7:00
Concord, California            -122:04  37:59 -8:00
Copenhagen, Denmark              12:29  55:43 Europe/Copenhagen
Corbeil-Essonnes, France          2:29  48:37 Europe/Paris
Costa-Mesa, California         -117:56  33:39 -8:00
Croydon, United Kingdom         -00:06  51:23 Europe/London
Cupertino, California          -122:01  37:19 -8:00
Curacao, Netherl.Antilles       -69:00  12:11 America/Curacao
Dakar, Senegal                  -17:24  14:40 Africa/Dakar
Dallas, Texas, USA              -96:47  32:47 America/Chicago
Danbury, Connecticut            -73:26  41:24 -5:00
Dayton, New Jersey              -74:31  40:23 -5:00
Dayton, Ohio                    -84:10  39:45 -5:00
Dearborn, Michigan              -83:14  42:18 -5:00
Deepwater, New Jersey           -75:30  39:42 -5:00
Denver, Colorado, USA          -104:59  39:44 America/Denver
Des-Moines, Iowa                -93:55  41:35 -6:00
Detroit, Michigan               -83:05  42:23 -5:00
Dortmund, Germany                 7:27  51:32 Europe/Berlin
Dublin, Ireland                 -06:15  53:20 Europe/Dublin
Duesseldorf, Germany              6:47  51:13 Europe/Berlin
East-Brunswick, New Jersey      -74:23  40:25 -5:00
East-Fishkill, New York         -73:47  41:33 America/New_York
Easter Island                  -109:20 -27:05 Pacific/Easter
Eastleigh, United Kingdom       -01:22  50:58 Europe/London
Eau-Claire, Wisconsin           -91:30  44:50 -6:00
Edinburgh, United Kingdom       -03:13  55:57 Europe/London
Edmonton, Canada               -113:25  53:34 America/Edmonton
Ehningen, Germany                 9:45  48:17 Europe/Berlin
El Paso, Texas                 -106:29  31:45 -7:00
Endicott, New York              -76:03  42:06 America/New_York
Erie, Pennsylvania              -80:05  42:07 -5:00
Essen, Germany                    6:57  51:27 Europe/Berlin
Evenaar, Equator                  0:00   0:00 0:00
Fairbanks, Alaska              -148:00  65:00 America/Anchorage
Fishkill, New York              -73:54  41:32 America/New_York
Florham-Park, New Jersey        -74:23  40:47 -5:00
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA    -105:05  40:33 America/Denver
Fort-Worth, Texas               -97:18  32:45 -6:00
Frankfurt, Germany                8:41  50:06 Europe/Berlin
Franklin-Lakes, New Jersey      -74:12  41:01 -5:00
Fujisawa, Japan                 139:29  35:22 Asia/Tokyo
Gaithersburg, Maryland          -77:13  39:08 -5:00
Galloway Forest Park, Scotland   -4:19  55:02 Europe/London
Geneva, Switzerland               6:09  46:12 Europe/Zurich
Gothenburg, Sweden               12:00  57:45 Europe/Stockholm
Grand-Rapids, Michigan          -85:40  42:57 -5:00
Greenford-Green, UK             -00:20  51:31 Europe/London
Greenock, United Kingdom        -04:45  55:57 Europe/London
Guadalajara, Mexico            -103:20  20:40 -6:00
Guatemala, Guatemala            -90:31  14:38 America/Guatemala
Habana, Cuba                    -82:20  23:10 -5:00
Haifa, Israel                    34:59  32:49 Asia/Jerusalem
Hamburg, Germany                 10:00  53:33 Europe/Berlin
Hamden, Connecticut             -72:55  41:23 -5:00
Hannover, Germany                 9:44  52:23 Europe/Berlin
Harrison, New York              -73:42  40:58 America/New_York
Hartford, Connecticut           -72:40  41:46 -5:00
Havant, United Kingdom          -00:59  50:51 Europe/London
Hawthorne, New York             -73:47  41:06 America/New_York
Heidelberg, Germany               8:42  49:25 Europe/Berlin
Helsinki, Finland                24:56  60:09 Europe/Helsinki
Herrenberg, Germany               8:52  48:36 Europe/Berlin
Hong Kong, China                114:08  22:25 Asia/Hong_Kong
Honolulu, Hawaii, USA          -157:51  21:19 Pacific/Honolulu
Hopewell-Jct., New York         -73:47  41:35 America/New_York
Houston, Texas                  -95:22  29:46 -6:00
Hursley, United Kingdom         -01:23  51:01 Europe/London
Indianapolis, Indiana           -86:10  39:45 America/Indianapolis
Irving, Texas                   -96:56  32:49 -6:00
Istanbul, Turkey                 28:59  41:02 Asia/Istanbul
Jakarta, Indonesia              106:47  -6:09 Asia/Jakarta
Jarfalla, Sweden                 17:50  59:24 Europe/Stockholm
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia             39:10  21:30 Asia/Riyadh
Jefferson-City, Missouri        -92:10  38:33 -6:00
Jena, Germany                    11:35  50:56 Europe/Berlin
Jericho, New York               -73:32  40:47 America/New_York
Jerusalem, Israel                35:13  31:47 Asia/Jerusalem
Johannesburg, South Africa       28:02 -26:10 Africa/Johannesburg
Juneau, Alaska                 -135:00  59:00 America/Juneau
Kabul, Afghanistan               69:09  34:30 Asia/Kabul
Kansas-City, Missouri           -94:33  39:02 -6:00
Karachi, Pakistan                67:02  24:51 Asia/Karachi
Katmandu, Nepal                  85:18  27:42 Asia/Katmandu
Kawasaki, Japan                 139:43  35:32 Asia/Tokyo
Kiev, Ukraine                    30:28  50:24 Europe/Kiev
Kingston, Jamaica               -76:48  17:58 America/Jamaica
Kingston, New York              -74:00  41:55 America/New_York
Kuala-Lumpur, Malaysia          101:42   3:08 Asia/Kuala_Lumpur
Kuwait-City, Kuwait              48:00  29:20 Asia/Kuwait
La Paz, Bolivia                 -68:09 -16:30 America/La_Paz
Lansing, Michigan               -84:34  42:44 -5:00
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA         -115:09  36:10 America/Los_Angeles
Las-Palmas, Gran Canaria        -15:09  28:03 Atlantic/Canary
Latham, New York                -73:45  42:44 America/New_York
Lexington, Kentucky             -84:30  38:02 -5:00
Lidingo, Sweden                  18:10  59:22 Europe/Stockholm
Lille, France                     3:05  50:39 Europe/Paris
Lima, Peru                      -77:02 -12:07 America/Lima
Lisbon, Portugal                 -9:08  38:44 Europe/Lisbon
Lisses, France                    2:26  48:36 Europe/Paris
London, England                  -0:04  51:31 Europe/London
London, United Kingdom           -0:10  51:30 Europe/London
Longmont, Colorado, USA        -105:06  40:10 America/Denver
Los Angeles, California, USA   -118:13  34:03 America/Los_Angeles
Los-Gatos, California          -121:59  37:13 -8:00
Madison, Wisconsin              -89:22  43:04 -6:00
Madrid, Spain                    -3:40  40:24 Europe/Madrid
Mahwah, New Jersey              -74:09  41:06 -5:00
Mainz, Germany                    8:16  50:00 Europe/Berlin
Malmo, Sweden                    13:08  55:35 Europe/Stockholm
Manassas, Virginia              -77:39  38:45 -5:00
Manchester, United Kingdom      -02:15  53:30 Europe/London
Manila, Philippines             120:59  14:36 Asia/Manila
Marseille, France                 5:22  43:18 Europe/Paris
Mauna Kea, Hawaii              -155:28  19:49 Pacific/Honolulu
McLean, Virginia                -77:13  38:57 -5:00
Mechanicsburg,Pennsylvania      -77:01  40:13 -5:00
Melbourne, Australia            144:58 -37:45 Australia/Melbourne
Melbourne, Florida              -80:38  28:04 -5:00
Melrose-Park, Illinois          -87:51  41:52 -6:00
Menlo-Park, California         -122:11  37:27 -8:00
Mexico City, Mexico             -99:11  19:26 America/Mexico_City
Miami, Florida, USA             -80:12  25:48 America/New_York
Middletown, Pennsylvania        -76:44  40:23 -5:00
Mijdrecht, Netherlands            4:55  52:12 Europe/Amsterdam
Milan, Italy                      9:12  45:28 Europe/Rome
Milford, Connecticut            -73:04  41:13 -5:00
Milpitas, California           -121:54  37:25 -8:00
Milwaukee, Wisconsin            -87:56  43:03 -6:00
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA     -93:16  44:59 America/Chicago
Monterey-Park, California      -118:07  34:04 -8:00
Montevideo, Uruguay             -56:10 -34:55 America/Montevideo
Montpellier, France               3:53  43:36 Europe/Paris
Montreal, Canada                -73:36  45:31 America/Montreal
Montvale, New Jersey            -74:01  41:02 -5:00
Moscow, Russia                   37:37  55:45 Europe/Moscow
Mountain View, California      -122:04  37:23 -8:00
Munich, Germany                  11:34  48:08 Europe/Berlin

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Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: January 31, 2017, 09:05:17 pm »
#              For example the zone for Denver, Colorado, USA is
#              America/Denver.

That last sentence above, Ivan, may have some bearing on your problem - Not being a programmer, I don't know how our openJDK6 environment describes various timezones, but I know there is a list of them at the top of nvlocation - perhaps for you it can't find the descriptor it understands for your time zone, and as such defaults to GMT - it lists 438 Java environment descriptors for time zones which could be used in the nvlocation text file - I just happened to find one that was exactly for my location, but it is an unwieldy process (but necessary for Java?).

If "Europe/Paris" won't work, then the default North Pole and South Pole entry show that a time like "1:00" should work too.

191
General Discussion / Re: registering to upload to hobbes
« on: January 31, 2017, 05:16:22 am »
I also checked the web to see if there is an open source script similar to what hobbes does.
A front-end for the client may be easier, with a checksum to make sure that the uploaded TXT file is generated by the front-end, with its own checks. The front-end just has to match how the script actually works.

Some people not related to Hobbes are already checking uploads, I'm familiar with their wrong and unverified assumptions, but those people aren't volunteers yet, and I won't contact them. They are probably managing an own mirror or BBS (not a clue!) website.

Edit: a front-end also requires OS/2, so it excludes uploads fully produced with another OS.

192
Applications / Re: OpenOffice 4.1.3 Draw problem
« on: January 31, 2017, 05:03:18 am »
I set my antique IBM ThinkPad A22e (256 meg of real memory) to 3072, and I haven't seen a problem. Of course, I don't even bother to try Firefox, or AOO. Well, I did try FF, a while back, and it took about 20 minutes to load the default home page.   :(

For the record: memory is not the main cause of it taking about 20 minutes, albeit swapping never helps. The CPU of a.o. the IBM ThinkPad 20-series and the 600X is.

Install 1 GiB in a popular T23, and it still will be far slower than a 600E. If one wants to browse with FF, then use an antique version of the browser, or skip this generation of CPUs. Actually the browser can be reasonably fast after an install. As soon as the problems occurs you're lost. If it took 20 minutes, then nowadays that's normal with an IBM ThinkPad A22e and other 20-series ThinkPads.

193
Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: January 31, 2017, 04:35:00 am »
My problem with the time in NV 4 and oprnjdk6 is that no matter how many times I set it it always reverts to GMT the next time I start NV 4.  Everything else works as expected, even down to a customised location.

The file nvj.ini can be found, and includes lines like this?

DST = A
TZOffset = 1:00

If Openjdk6 may parse the TZ incorrectly, then have you tried "Auto DST" and other DST options (Set --> Set location, and of course File - Save location to ake it stick)?

194
Applications / Re: Night Vision v4 and Java
« on: January 30, 2017, 06:31:58 am »
You can also customize your personal database to add additional star names and deep sky objects, also by using File > Write User Files to create the editable nvdeepsky.txt and nvstarnames.txt files.

Writing a merger shouldn't be that hard. There's NVSN v2.6, NVSN v4 and e.g. Cosmos/2. If you want to get it right, and Brussels isn't good enough to represent a small town in the same time zone, then you just have to "import" other, existing data. Append once, export to all othe rlists. I guess the main problem, if any, will be 2 different location with the same name.

Cosmos/2: Brussels,_Belgium                +1:00   04:21  50:50
NVSN v2.6: Antwerp, Belgium             4:25  51:13   1:00
NVSN v4.0: Antwerp, Belgium                  4:25  51:13 Europe/Brussels

195
General Discussion / Re: registering to upload to hobbes
« on: January 30, 2017, 04:39:39 am »
Sounds reasonable and more clear than old text files. As long as uploaders won't receive more emails of Hobbes than they receive now, excluding possible confirmations.

I'ld like to keep the functionality of being able to browse new incoming files, because processing can take a long time, even with some new system.

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