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Article Discussions / Re: ArcaOS Wishlist - 6 months !!
« on: November 24, 2017, 01:25:27 pm »
As far as I remember Panorama requires VESA BIOS support.
For 2020, Intel announced the end of the legacy/conventional BIOS support.
From that time on there will only be "UEFI only" systems. As far as I understand that will also be the end of the VESA BIOS as we know it today. But correct me if I am wrong ...

Article Discussions / Re: ArcaOS Wishlist - 6 months !!
« on: November 24, 2017, 07:38:50 am »
- Support for accessing unpartitioned/non-LVM USB sticks (large floppy) greater than 2GB. To make life easier also. (Listed as Long Term Projects on AN Roadmap)

As I said multiple times this issue is already solved with my USBMSD.ADD driver. I am using "large floppy" sticks of 16 GB in size and it works just fine. AN is just too ignorant or self centered to pick up the changes I did. I think they have to solve it themselves.

Web applications / Re: Oddities with Youtube.
« on: November 15, 2017, 06:05:13 pm »
Pentium 4, identical setup: no such problem. Today FF 45.9.0-2 produced the Pentium III TRP file, instead of PM DLL. LGPLLIBS.DLL was the DLL file I (/ PM DLL's TRP file) was refering too earlier, besides NSPR4.DLL.

Illegal instruction MOVQ (FF):


 Exception Report - created 2017/11/15 14:08:38

 OS2/eCS Version:  2.45
 # of Processors:  1
 Physical Memory:  1023 mb
 Virt Addr Limit:  2048 mb
 Exceptq Version:  7.11.4-shl (Mar  6 2017)


 Exception C000001C - Illegal Instruction

 Process:  C:\TCPIP\FIREFOX\FIREFOX.EXE (10/05/2017 02:41:08 61,253)
 PID:      58 (88)
 TID:      01 (1)
 Priority: 200

 Filename: C:\TCPIP\FIREFOX\FIREFOX.EXE (10/05/2017 02:41:08 61,253)
 Address:  005B:00011514 (0001:00001514)


 Failing Instruction

 00011502  CMP  BYTE [0x302c0], 0x0     (803d c0020300 00)
 00011509  JZ   0x1153b                 (74 30)
 0001150B  MOV  EAX, [0x30280]          (a1 80020300)
 00011510  MOVD XMM0, EAX               (660f6ec0)
 00011514 >MOVQ QWORD [ESP+0x18], XMM0  (660fd64424 18)

There's the problem, it's using an XMM register, probably an SSE2 instruction which is illegal on a PIII.
Quickly grepping through media\ there's quite a few SSE instructions. The question is whether it is hard coded or a failure of the CPU detection.
I'll try to look closer later. Do you have the dbg files installed? If so can you post the call stack?

0001151A  FILD QWORD [ESP+0x18]        (df6c24 18)
 0001151E  FST  QWORD [0x30270]         (dd15 70020300)
 00011524  FDIV DWORD [0x1163c]         (d835 3c160100)



 EAX : 0001234C   EBX  : 000301A4   ECX : 2003A0E0   EDX  : 2003A0EC
 ESI : 0013FFA4   EDI  : 0013FF64
 ESP : 0013FE80   EBP  : 0013FED8   EIP : 00011514   EFLG : 00012202
 CS  : 005B       CSLIM: FFFFFFFF   SS  : 0053       SSLIM: FFFFFFFF

 EAX : read/exec  memory at 0001:0000234C in FIREFOX
 EBX : read/write memory at 0002:000001A4 in FIREFOX
 ECX : read/write memory allocated by LIBC066
 EDX : read/write memory allocated by LIBC066
 ESI : read/write memory on this thread's stack
 EDI : read/write memory on this thread's stack

That cannot be the explanation. The instruction preceding the trap is also an SSE2 instruction ("MOVD XMM0,EAX"). Or will the failing location point "behind" the failing instruction ?

Hardware / Re: Preparing an USB Flash drive with FAT32 with DFSee
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:00:54 am »
In DFSee, just go to the Scripts menu and choose Make FAT32 Data (USB) disk and choose your disk and follow instructions.
You can probably do the same by partitioning with LVM and formatting the drive with the FAT32.IFS format command now. Previously we had no way to format FAT32.
Using Lars's USB stack, you should be able to read the USB stick that was formatted under Windows, which defaults to making a large floppy rather then a partitioned disk

Some additional info: if the first sectors of a stick are completely wiped (overwritten with zeros), then Windows will make it a large floppy stick if you select to format it. However, I you buy a stick in a store, then it is likely that it is already partitioned (with one partition usually). In that case Windows will keep the partitioning when you choose to format and will format the already existing partition. My USBMSD.ADD does its best to support "large floppy" if the stick is "virgin" as well as keeping and supporting the proper CHS layout if already partitioned.

Networking / Re: Subnets routing?
« on: November 09, 2017, 09:51:18 am »
Giving it a guess:

route add -net netmask
route add -net netmask

What the first line should should do is allowing to access network 192.168.0 via the gateway, that is access to whatever attaches to lan0 from lan2.
The second line works vice versa: it allows access to network 192.168.2 via the gateway, that is access to whatever attaches to lan2 from lan0.

If you want to get lan1 into play, I would assume that it is seen under gateway
route add -net netmask
route add -net netmask

Applications / Re: Mouse jumps in text editor and other applications
« on: November 01, 2017, 12:47:55 pm »
Revert Back to 11.16. I See the Same Probs with 11.17.

Applications / Re: Mouse jumps in text editor and other applications
« on: November 01, 2017, 10:08:13 am »
Do you use a USB mouse? Do you use AN Version 11.17?
Then revert Back to 11.16.

Programming / Re: Non-yum/rpm vs. ordinary (?) eCS
« on: October 07, 2017, 09:10:52 am »
Even "arcview.exe" that comes with eComStation supports 7z files.
You just need to create an association. The easiest way is to use XWP to create a file type say "7z Archive", tie that to file extension .7z and then to select "arcview.exe" as the handling program.
That will at least allow you to view the file contents but I am pretty confident it will also support extraction.

Applications / Re: XWorkplace and missing folder contents...
« on: October 02, 2017, 03:31:30 pm »
Bull. I gave up complaining about this issue, years ago, because I "am the only one with the problem".

Thanks for advising. My apologies if I didn't recall that you bitched and moaned about this years ago - one rant tends to blend into another.

Happily, an unusual confluence of events today has opened a whole new avenue to explore - one that has nothing to do with XWP or the WPS. As you know, I got to see part of your config.sys today and the many, many filesystems you load. Perhaps that's where the problem lies. As I understand it, all filesystem requests go through the kernel's filesystem router, then out to the appropriate one. If something were to get messed up there, it's easy to see how some or all filesystem activity would grind to a halt.

Based on the excerpt of config.sys you posted, I see that you load:
  • JFS
  • HPFS
  • CDFS
  • FAT32
  • UDF
  • NDFS
Dariusz, do you use any of the less common ones on this list?

The best that I can hope for, is that one of the main developers will see the problem, figure it out, and fix it.

That's pretty amusing...

Every volume ("drive letter") is presented to every IFS on the "FS_MOUNT" call to the IFS. Once an IFS claims responsibility for a volume ("drive letter") it does so for good (until next reboot, of course). From then on, the kernel knows what file system Driver (IFS) to invoke for any directory or file related access.

What is important to know is that the FAT32.IFS Version that delivered with AN was badly broken and far from being ready. It would be a good idea to pull the latest release from Netlabs.
Nonetheless, assuming that FS_MOUNT of FAT32.IFS is not doing something fundamentally wrong, only FAT32 partitions (and FAT12/FAT16 and exFAT if you enabled that in FAT32.IFS) should suffer from file system driver errors.

Storage / Re: About FAT32 and AN
« on: June 18, 2017, 10:09:39 pm »
Looks like quite a few people are having probs with FAT32 as it comes with AN:

I have had a problem with special characters in the folder, or file, names. They just don't match what the older FAT32 driver , or windows, uses. That can also result in a case where the files "disappear" while copying (they are still there).

Personally, I always turn off EAS. The file system, itself, doesn't support them, and you will have nothing but problems with them, if you try to use that feature (true for older FAT32 versions too).

The easy "fix" is to get FAT32 9.13, from HOBBES, and replace what comes with ArcaOS.. Eventually, somebody will listen to what i tell them, and the problem will be fixed.

Please open a problem report for this defect so that it does not get lost. With some luck, this project is going to pick up speed:

You will need to create an account with Netlabs but I think you have that already.


Setup & Installation / Re: format /fs:hpfs does not work
« on: June 18, 2017, 05:31:07 pm »
It,s rather UHPFS.DLL that is missing.

Setup & Installation / Re: ArcaOS keeps rebooting
« on: June 12, 2017, 06:08:42 pm »
Forgot to answer the other statement: the reason why nobody has yet written a utility for writing the DLAT sector is twofold: there are people who would jump into your face if say USBMSD.ADD would write something to their media without them knowing (large floppy support creates a fake  DLAT in memory therefore this is not a prob in this case) .And secondly it's damn difficult to say where the DLAT sector is supposed to go on the medium. I just say " disk geometry" and you will understand the problem.
The latter is also not easy for DFSEE to know reliably and I had quite a few email exchanges with Jan van Wijk about this problem. That's why DFSEE is a tool for people who know what they are doing.
It's not lack of skill.

Setup & Installation / Re: ArcaOS keeps rebooting
« on: June 12, 2017, 05:29:20 pm »
And then there is an updated USBMSD.ADD. It's not only updated to support "large floppy".
I also spent considerable time in making it work more reliably with USB mass storage devices. That includes USB floppy drives/CD-ROMs/memory sticks/hard drives. If you  need to use a floppy  drive it's the only driver that will work with more than just a few devices. I also improved copy performance and I fixed problems with data integrity.
It can be used with the AN stack without any problem or restrictions.

Setup & Installation / Re: ArcaOS keeps rebooting
« on: June 11, 2017, 04:32:24 pm »

I am using XWP "full" version (that is,not the lite version) 1.0.11 available on Hobbes. I would think that is about the version that AN delivers.

ANXWP is at version ..umm.. 1.0.11++. I've made about 10 changes since 1.0.11 and checked them in to the Netlabs repo but I haven't built a new generic version yet because all the NLS files need updating. I'll try to get that moving.(

I could help with the German translation if you'd send me the files to translate.
Or Andreas Buchinger would potentially volunteer.

Setup & Installation / Re: ArcaOS keeps rebooting
« on: June 11, 2017, 10:48:57 am »
"formatted as eFAT"
What is eFAT? I can say that exFAT is not supported. Only FAT16 and FAT32.

I know it's not the cure for every problem but regarding USB you could try my driver set.
Go to and search for "usbdrv".

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