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Applications / Re: Java Applications
« on: May 27, 2013, 02:11:33 pm »
Hi Martin

I thought I'd have a look at this and had a look for a package without an installer.

I did not find 1 so sent an email asking about a version without an installer. I have a reply:-

Hi Pete,

 There is a zip on ( but
Joeffice requires java 7.


So,  java7 is required - which probably explains why it is not installing for you.



Applications / Re: hwman installation
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:11:36 pm »
Hi martin

The only description I have seen of this was the subject heading in newsgroup comp.os..os2.misc - WPS class replacement for OS/2 Hardware-Manager.

As to how to add the description to xWP: I think it is shown clearly in the image :-)

I do not think it is possible to add the description yourself - but I could be wrong.



Hi Roderick

You kind of send the same email to the supportteam address as requested. Thanks for that.
 I wrote this reply:

>Booting from \"Menu with own values\" results in system hang when \"Creating objects\"

Oke lets try and pin point the problem.  You made any changes in the
preboot menu ?

What happens if you disable ACPI ?  Did you have a ticket open on for ACPI and a Gateway system with ACPI or I'm mixing
you up with somebody else ?

>Booting with \"Default values\" results in USB Trackball not working when Desktop loaded.
>Overall, this needs a lot more work.

If you did not modify in the preboot menu (boot with own values) and
boot with default value's is the same (in effect). It could rather be
pointing at something else as in a random problem that is somehow

What happens with the demo CD if you take out the USB mouse and reconnect it ?
It would help if you could open a ticket in the eComStation bugtracker so we can try and trace and solve this bug.
But having stuff discussed in forums and emails makes it hard to track for developers.


Roderick Klein
Mensys B.V.

I set the following in the preboot Menu:-
Language to en_UK
Keyboard to en_UK
Video to SNAP
Changed AHCI driver to Danis506
Removed USB Keyboard support
Set USB Floppy support to 0

ACPI should work... It is possible that I enabled multiple CPU support. I will have to retest with only 1 CPU active.

No, I don't have a Gateway system  :-)

I had problems with the USB drivers supplied with eCS 2.2 Beta that look very similar to the problem with the LiveCD - ie the USB Trackball does not work with the supplied USB drivers but does work with the IBM 10.162 drivers.

I thought I had opened a ticket about the USB problem on the eCS Bugtracker but cannot find it... I do know that at the time I installed eCS 2.2 Beta I was using a *wired* USB Trackball. I seem to recall having a bit of a problem with the eCS Bugtracker around that time so maybe I did not report the USB problems. They do get briefly discussed in the eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions thread - on Page 6.

I'll have to do a little more testing and then file Bug reports about the USB problems.



Hi All

I'm not very impressed with the Demo CD myself.

When I boot from "Menu with own values" the system hangs on "Creating objects"

When I boot with the "Default values" my USB Trackball does not work - not sure about any other usb devices as I could not be bothered to try and keyboard my way around the Desktop testing things.

At least I now know there has been no improvement of USB mouse related drivers since the release of eCS2.2 Beta...

Ah, well. Guess we can look forward to the next Live CD and hope it is much improved.



Internet / Re: Crashes on firefox
« on: May 15, 2013, 01:51:47 am »
Hi Melf

I bumped into a few Flashblock problems with the current Seamonkey ( and posters in the mozilla ng suggested using NoScript instead - - which works pretty well.



Games / Re: Running MGL Doom on Warp 4
« on: May 02, 2013, 01:01:02 pm »
Hi Scott

What graphics card is involved? - it would have to be pretty ancient to not have double buffering capability but it looks like SNAP is not finding that capability on the graphics card.

FYI: mglDoom has been running fine here for years; Warp4.50 on (currently eCS2.2), various SNAP builds (currently 3.1.8), usually ATI graphics cards (recent cards include X300, X800; current card X550) although I seem to recall using several nVidia cards around about Warp4.50 time.

SNAP does include some tools to report and change current settings which may be of help - see the SNAP.PDF file in the \SNAP directory or SNAP desktop folder. I suggest that you use the following command from the \SNAP directory to see what the current configuration is:-

gaoption show > current_options.txt

Check that "Hardware acceleration.... Full" is included in the results.

You may also want to check the results of the following command

gaoption show accel > accel.txt

With my ATI X550 all options are On and Hardware acceleration is Full

If all graphics card settings seem OK then you may have a missing/wrong build support file somewhere...
I guess PMDLL - as mentioned by Dave - is the best tool to discover that. you could also try starting mgldoom from the command line just to see if any errors get reported there.



Hi Scott

Maybe you want to update to SNAP - (includes Serial Number) - to see if that helps.



Hi Sigurd

With regard to slowing boot down - not something most of us want to do  ;-)  - I think you may want to try BootDly.SYS

This driver is definitely supplied with eCS2.1 and 2.2 but I'm not sure if it is included in earlier eCS versions. If you have either eCS2.1/2.2 you should find BootDly.SYS in \os2\boot and docs in \ecs\DOC\BOOTDLY



Article Discussions / Re: eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions
« on: April 11, 2013, 03:32:17 am »
Hi Doug

I think I've found the cause of my usb "mouse" problem: USB Legacy support was Enabled in the mainboard BIOS.
Changing that to Disabled has resulted in no problems when booting using the IBM 10.162 builds of usbd.sys, usbhid.sys, usbehcd.sys and usbohcd.sys and the mouse has been active when the Desktop has loaded.

Lars 10.186 builds do not like my wireless trackball as they cause boot to stop until the usb receiver is removed from the usb port.

I've yet to retest the usb drivers supplied with eCS 2.2 beta

I've also discovered the cause of the slooow boot time I've been experiencing with eCS2.2 beta: BASEDEV=OS2AHCI.ADD /Q
Putting REM in front of that line has improved matters greatly - about the same boot time as my eCS 2.1 installation.



Article Discussions / Re: eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions
« on: April 09, 2013, 08:50:18 pm »
Hi Doug

Throwing in "unusual" devices, like a trackball, doesn't help.

I would not consider a trackball an "unusual" device; it is nothing more than an upside down mouse  ;-)

Yes, lets see if the next 2.2 beta - if there is 1 - resolves the issues people have reported.



Article Discussions / Re: eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions
« on: April 09, 2013, 06:15:19 pm »
Hi Doug

I tried to resolve the usb issues I'm seeing by deleting USBOHCD.SYS and USBEHCD.SYS then installing the files from the 10.186 build by Lars Erdmann

Rebooted  to a working Desktop with Mouse "active"

I hoped the above had cured the problem but find it has not - 2 of 5 boots have resulted in no mouse "active" when the Desktop has loaded.

I then tried replacing USBD.SYS and USBHID.SYS with the IBM 10.162 builds

Rebooted with no problems, mouse works.

A few reboots later - and no changes to config.sys file - I find boot stopping after loading the genmac marvbell 88e8056 driver.

This is about the time that the usbmouse.sys driver should load...

I tried turning off my Logitech M570 Trackball - just purchased to replace my ancient wired Microsoft Trackball - and then turning it on. No difference...

I pulled the wireless receiver from the USB socket - Boot continued; I reinserted the wireless receiver and the mouse worked fine when the Desktop had loaded. Interesting... I suspect the USB drivers are not even "seeing" the attached mouse until the wireless receiver is reinserted. But, Why not?

This combination of Lars Erdmanns controller drivers build 10.186 and IBMs 10.162 USBD.SYS and USBHID.SYS works fine on this hardware when booting from my eCS2.1 volume. This seems to indicate the problem is not just related to USB drivers.



Article Discussions / Re: eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions
« on: April 03, 2013, 09:17:43 pm »
Hi Roderick

Would the USB drivers be responsible for what seems a slow boot time here? - or is the new kernel involved?

The eCS logo is onscreen for a long time compared with eCS2.1 and total boot time is double eCS2.1 (Time in Minutes:Seconds):-

      Boot logo on screen      Boot time total

eCS 2.1                00:07                               00:45

eCS 2.2 beta       00:55            01:35

Anyone else seeing longer-than-eCS2.1/eCS2.0 boot times?

I'm seeing the occasional problem of the system boots to a working Desktop but the USB mouse is totally unresponsive, the pointer on screen does not move and neither button works. The last time this happened I experimented with pulling out the usb mouse lead then plugging it back in. Hey, Presto! - a working mouse. However, this is not a good "workaround" as it involves crawling under a desk to get at the usb mouse lead.

The above is not a problem that I have seen when using Lars Erdmanns USB Controller drivers build 10.186 with IBMs USBD.SYS 10.162



Applications / Re: Gimp on OS/2
« on: April 03, 2013, 05:41:45 pm »
Hi Andy

Would the isomaster ISO library work with a gui developed in WDSibyl - - or does it need the gtk gui?



Article Discussions / Re: eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions
« on: March 31, 2013, 10:14:31 pm »
Hi All

Subtitle: Printers bitch and Printing problem resolved

During eCS2.2 beta install I decided to not install cups - I already have it installed and working and planned to simply hook up my newly created eCS 2.2 printer object to this existing cups installation.

Of course, I soon discovered, probably as a result of not installing cups, that my eCS2.2 install does not have the cups OS/2 bits necessary to hook up to the existing cups installation.

However, the eCS2.2 installation does contain all the old printer drivers that anyone could possibly not need.

This seems wrong to me.

I think the ecups OS/2 bits - ecups.drv, cups.pdr, cupslpr.exe and associated documentation should have been installed.

I found the wpi files containing ecups.drv and cups.pdr but could not find cupslpr.exe anywhere on the dvd. Is it simply missing? - or is it created somehow by the CUPS Wizard? Looking at the docs it seems that is the case.

I had a look at CUPS Wizard hoping that it would help but it seems to be designed to create both cups and eCS printers at the same time. That is something that I do not want to do as I already have a working cups printer.

So, I copied cupslpr.exe from my eCS2.1 installation.

Having created an eCS printer from the ecups.drv package and hooked it up to the cups.pdr port I find that I cannot print.

Printing from an application results in a print job in the os/2 printer queue; in this case \var\SPOOL\CanonPIX contains *.SHD and *.SPL files but they do not get to the cups spooler.

OpenOffice gives an error message when the 1st print job fails "Error during spooling to cups server". I checked localhost is set in HOSTS and tcpip configuration has Use host list first checked. I changed the cups.pdr cups server from localhost to but that makes no difference.

I've obviously got something wrong, somewhere...

I compared the various gcc*.dll and libc*.dll files in H:\ecs\dll (eCS2.2 install) and L:\ecs\dll (eCS2.1 install with working os/2 cups printer).

I discovered 1 difference: L:\ecs\dll contains libc064x.dll

I was not sure whether libc064x.dll would make a difference but I copied it to H:\ecs\dll and repeated my print test from OpenOffice (1.1.5). Success!!!

As libc064x.dll does not get installed by eCS and does not seem to be part of the cups packages installed with eCS I can only guess that the port created by the CUPS Wizard does not need libc064x.dll

I hope the above is useful to anyone struggling to get an existing cups setup working with an eCS2.2 printer.



Article Discussions / Re: eComStation 2.2 Beta First Impressions
« on: March 30, 2013, 07:56:59 pm »
Hi Doug

Setting a drive view can be a problem - I find it best left blank which seems to default to opening in Tree View with directories opening in Icon View.

I did make the mistake of setting a drive view - once.

To recover I added an "Open as" option of "no view" with "e.exe" as the program to the drive Properties, Menu Page, Actions on menu ~Open as. I then selected that as the Default and shut the Properties notebook. I then reopened the notebook and deleted the no view option, did not select any other Default view and closed the notebook.

The drive then opened in Tree View with directories opening in Icon view.



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