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#91
Networking / Re: Wake on LAN
Last post by eirik - 2012.09.17, 22:04:03
There is obviously more to suspend and resume than many of us expected.  While it would be nice to have suspend and resume working including wake up of LAN, I view it more important to get the other FnFX buttons working, in particular the one so that eCS laptop users can hook their PC to a beamer and use eCS for their presentations (rather than going to their Win partitions).  In addition to increasing the value of eCS for current users, this is also a nice way of reminding other computer users that there are other platforms than Win out there that do the job (at least as well as Win does).

How far are we from a workable solution.  I do not know as reports vary depending on what hardware people have.  For example on my Lenovo Thinkpad T410, the sound mute button works (and integrates with pmtpos2), the Fn buttons for adjusting brightness and light up the keyboard work, while volume adjustment does not work.

Constructive regards / Eirik
#92
Networking / Re: Wake on LAN
Last post by DougB - 2012.09.16, 17:50:07
QuoteThere is no need to care especially about WakeOnLan in MultiMac.

Unfortunately, that is not true, for two main reasons:

1) There needs to be a way for eCS to turn on the feature. It seems that in most cases, it is disabled. If the user does not have another OS installed, that is capable of turning it on, it can't be done. It seems that BIOS no longer has control over that, as it did in earlier machines. BIOS can prevent it from being turned on, but it cannot turn it on by itself.

2) It seems that newer machines (my Lenovo ThinkPad T510, for instance), will not leave that setting turned on, unless the driver enables it at shutdown (obviously some sort of security feature). So, if I run Win7, and enable magic packets, I can shut down, and I can use your program (well done, by the way) to turn it back on. Now, if I boot to eCS, it works fine, until I shut down, then I cannot turn it back on, using magic packets, until I run windows again, and that requires a manual power on, using the machine switch, not magic packets.

Those two "problems" should be addressed, and Multimac seems to be the way that it needs to be done (at least for the the devices operated by the Multimac driver).

I have opened an incident in TRAC for Multimac. Whether it will be fixed, or not, is up to the developers.
#93
Article Discussions / Re: ACPI package 3.21.02 has b...
Last post by DougB - 2012.09.16, 17:21:13
QuoteIts really the question if we are going to keep the old throttle tool alive (powerman)

Discard Powerman.EXE (and it should be deleted if found). The new ACPI does much better, and I am pretty sure that it works with many more systems.

I think you are slightly confused between Powerman.EXE, and the new ACPI configuration program. The configuration program works good, to configure ACPI, but you do need to wait for ACPIDaemon.EXE to get ready before it will work (Not sure why, it is simply used to set the contents of \MPTN\ETC\AcpiD.cfg). I have seen that take up to about 3 minutes after the rest of the boot is finished.
#94
Article Discussions / Re: What is the future of this...
Last post by miturbide - 2012.09.16, 01:31:30
Being honest, I'm do not have deep technical knowledge to know if some dbus source code (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus)  can be used to create a clone of SOM/DSOM.
#95
Networking / Re: Wake on LAN
Last post by Andy P. - 2012.09.15, 22:26:30
There is no need to care especially about WakeOnLan in MultiMac. If the drivers don't touch the registers, everything is fine. Fortunately, WakeOnLan works on BIOS level and is similar to WakeOnKeyboard. There are only few points:
1.) Some computer manufacturer sells their machines with power off=S5 to meet certain green terms. Swich this back to S3.
2.) OSes have the possibility to mix this up. Windows (what else) will do this by change the registers of network cards to not listen to magic packets.
So you have to configure the card driver to set the network card back to listening. There are some rare Linux distributions that do this too, but the major part does switch WakeonLan back on at shutdown.
3.) There are some network cards with especially no WakeOnLan (e.G some 3Com), that can't be turn. If in doubt, read the manual of the Card.

WakeOnLan standards specifies a password for magic packets. Some network cards can be set to check a WakeOnLan-passwort before waking up the computer. I don't know which card uses this, nor how the password can be set. If you have such card, the password goes to the variable G (default 0x000000000000) in the same manner like the variable X.
The Mac can be found with the command line: arp -a

To say this clear:
This little rexx script is just a finger exercise and have no copyright value in my point of view, so I gave no copyright disclaimer. Feel free to use it.
As usual for WakeOnLan, you are not sticked to eCs- computers. Also Windows-, Linux- and MAC- driven computers can be awakened. Even non-computer systems can be switched on (If they know about WakeOnLan). In my case, I wrote this to switch on my satellite receiver from my eCs-Box ;)
Andy
#96
Article Discussions / Re: ACPI package 3.21.02 has b...
Last post by rwklein - 2012.09.15, 21:40:54
Quote from: miturbide on 2012.09.15, 01:19:41
I'm having some issues with ACPI on a Thinkpad L420 (7856-3WS).
Mainboard: Intel HM65 (Cougar Point)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2410M

After installing ACPI, it boots fine, but when I try to go to the "ACPI Power Manager" settings it says:
"The Power Manager service is not available. Either ACPIDaemon is not running or your system does not support power management"

It didn't work with or without /VBE. The Standy by goes to sleep but does not turn on back.

By the way, I don't use eCS 2.1 on this machine running on real hardware (only virtualized) since the trackpoint and touchpad does not work (only the external mouse works) and the Intel Centrino 6205 wireless is not supported.

Its really the question if we are going to keep the old throttle tool alive (powerman). I will discuss this with David but from what I understand the HLT instruction with the new ACPI versions works without any trouble on most systems. And the support powerman offers is slower and from what I understood David has measured just has negative effect on the performance of a system and does not even conserve as much energy as the HLT instruction (that ACPI activates automatically just like the _W4 kernel did).

As for your trackpoint I send you a driver you could try.

Roderick Klein
Mensys
#97
Article Discussions / Re: ACPI package 3.21.02 has b...
Last post by miturbide - 2012.09.15, 01:19:41
I'm having some issues with ACPI on a Thinkpad L420 (7856-3WS).
Mainboard: Intel HM65 (Cougar Point)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2410M

After installing ACPI, it boots fine, but when I try to go to the "ACPI Power Manager" settings it says:
"The Power Manager service is not available. Either ACPIDaemon is not running or your system does not support power management"

It didn't work with or without /VBE. The Standy by goes to sleep but does not turn on back.

By the way, I don't use eCS 2.1 on this machine running on real hardware (only virtualized) since the trackpoint and touchpad does not work (only the external mouse works) and the Intel Centrino 6205 wireless is not supported.
#98
Article Discussions / Re: ACPI package 3.21.02 has b...
Last post by rwklein - 2012.09.15, 00:28:36
Quote from: DougB on 2012.09.14, 22:46:56
QuoteI just tried this release of ACPI on the Thinkpad R51 (1838-PS0) and the standy mode is working.

My Lenovo ThinkPad T510 will go to sleep, but it will not turn the screen back on, after waking it up (the back light stays off). Otherwise, S/R appears to work (although with no activity on the screen, it is really difficult to tell if it really did wake up). Wireless never did work, so that is waiting for the Multimac project to catch up.


Well try /VBE behind the PSD=ACPI.PSD second if it does not work. After suspend see if you can ping the machine from another machine. And you can check if caps lock works (the led turns on).

Telnet does not work. It seems the video card must be back alive for telnet to work over the network.

Roderick Klein
Mensys
#99
Article Discussions / Re: ACPI package 3.21.02 has b...
Last post by DougB - 2012.09.14, 22:46:56
QuoteI just tried this release of ACPI on the Thinkpad R51 (1838-PS0) and the standy mode is working.

My Lenovo ThinkPad T510 will go to sleep, but it will not turn the screen back on, after waking it up (the back light stays off). Otherwise, S/R appears to work (although with no activity on the screen, it is really difficult to tell if it really did wake up). Wireless never did work, so that is waiting for the Multimac project to catch up.

QuoteI also found that Jan's pmtposd2 works on my Z61m

That works fine on my IBM ThinkPad A22e and my T43. It does not work on my Lenovo T510.
#100
Article Discussions / Re: ACPI package 3.21.02 has b...
Last post by abwillis - 2012.09.14, 21:52:14
I also found that Jan's pmtposd2 works on my Z61m (shows where the hardware volume and brightness).