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Martin Iturbide:
Hi Lewis

About ANPM, I was hoping that the tool can evolve to be more like an "App Store" that masks the RPM complexity on the back, instead of being just a GUI for RPM/YUM.  Something similar to the "Ubuntu Software Center" for example (see attached picture), it does not has to be exactly the same, but to be more visually appealing to install applications.

Should I open a ticket for this?

Regards

Andy Willis:

--- Quote from: Martin Iturbide on July 12, 2016, 11:37:22 pm ---About ANPM, I was hoping that the tool can evolve to be more like an "App Store" that masks the RPM complexity on the back, instead of being just a GUI for RPM/YUM.  Something similar to the "Ubuntu Software Center" for example (see attached picture), it does not has to be exactly the same, but to be more visually appealing to install applications.

--- End quote ---

Martin, I am curious?  What do you like about the USC?  One of the first things I do on Ubuntu is install the older installer (can't think of its name) because I really dislike trying to use USC. 

Doug Bissett:

--- Quote ---About ANPM, I was hoping that the tool can evolve to be more like an "App Store" that masks the RPM complexity on the back, instead of being just a GUI for RPM/YUM.
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Please, NO! "App stores" are one of the very worst things that have happened over the last few years.

ANPM was designed to be a GUI for RPM/YUM, since RPM/YUM is completely unusable for most people. In that capacity, it has done well. ANPM was also supposed to be a GUI for WarpIn, which has much less need for such a thing, but some sort of tracking between the two would be good. Unfortunately, the main programmer (Alex Taylor) has been far too busy with more important things. The "App Store" concept is supposed to be handled by RPM/YUM, but RPM/YUM has so many faults, that it has not actually been done. It seems that the first "product" to be made available, will be Firefox. It will be interesting to see how well that works, when/if it happens.

Dave Yeo:
I have to agree, hate app stores. My favourite on Debian (and Debian based dists) was the old simple dselect, curses based but much like ANPM except it had categories, eg Internet, Games, Programming etc, which I guess ANPM could evolve to have if we ever have enough packages to need categories.
And of course the command line, especially once they came out with apt.

Alex Taylor:

--- Quote from: Dave Yeo on July 13, 2016, 05:50:41 am ---I have to agree, hate app stores. My favourite on Debian (and Debian based dists) was the old simple dselect, curses based but much like ANPM except it had categories, eg Internet, Games, Programming etc, which I guess ANPM could evolve to have if we ever have enough packages to need categories.
And of course the command line, especially once they came out with apt.

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Categories are implemented at the package level.  ANPM does support categories, just not in quite the same was as most Linux package managers: the category is displayed in the list, and you can view packages for a specific category using the filter controls.

Right now there just aren't enough packages, as you say, to justify breaking out entirely separate views.  Even the most populous category at the moment probably has only eight or ten packages on offer; some may only have one or two.

I confess, I also designed it this way in part because I think breaking down the package list into physically separate category views adds too much clutter and confusion to the user interface.  It also makes browsing and scanning the available packages much more tedious, especially since there often seems to be little rhyme or reason in how package maintainers select a category.

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