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Future death of the personal computer?

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David Kiley:

--- Quote from: Mathias on February 15, 2020, 10:49:01 pm ---Well.. the majority of people is most likely unable to use the potential of a PC. It`s far to complicated, expensive, huge and nerdy.
Most people I know, use PCs for organising via Outlook, writing letters in Word, organising address data in Excel (yes, not in Access.. :>), and some more for writing e-mail.
Keep in mind, that each topic goes for one person.

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Interesting - but I remember as a teenager the first time being exposed to a mac classic computer lab at my school.
There was nothing complicated about it - we played games & wrote documents and painted.
The point is it was a consumer friendly device.
Personally I like OS/2 better but I don't think it's impossible to keep making such devices - the tech companies are more interested in pushing cloud services now for the monthly costs associated with them.

David Kiley:

--- Quote from: Martin Iturbide on February 16, 2020, 03:11:41 am ---I don't personally think on the death of personal computer, maybe it is more that the people that only consume content/information no longer needs a full PC for it, they only require a smartphone (with no mouse or keyboard) to do that today. But people that requires to create content like documents, videos, images, etc, still require a better input device like a keyboard and mouse.

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I work retail part time and it keeps amazing me that people still have to buy windows 10, which is about one of the worst operating systems available. It starts out slow out of the gate and a few months down the road and it will grind to a halt because of malware. The only alternative is the crappy Chromebook, which is limited in its functionality.
I do see your point about content consumption though.
Not sure it's a great that we live in a world which people are just being pushed to be consumers instead of creators though.

Neil Waldhauer:

--- Quote from: David Kiley on February 19, 2020, 10:13:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Neil Waldhauer on February 15, 2020, 03:50:10 pm ---I already live in a hybrid world of iPhone/iPad + OS/2. It's certainly not the iPhone/iPad that are replacing OS/2. It's iCloud and the other on-line services. The new OS/2 browser cannot come soon enough.

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Curious what you mean by the iCloud replacing OS/2? Personally I think cloud services are largely a scam. I use google drive for storage but I feel a lot of "cloud" services are just tricking you into paying a monthly fee for something you could have owned, like an office suite.

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I mean the cloud is slowly removing my personal need for OS/2. However, the cloud has already replaced Windows, Linux and Mac on the desktop. All of these companies make far more profit on their cloud service than on their PC hardware and software.

There will always be a few PC, and even a few PC servers. But even looking at chips, Intel and AMD are designing for the cloud.

Pete:
Hi All

A little point of interest here.

The Wife has over the past year gradually moved more of her "internetting" onto her mobile and rarely boots Her pc these days.

However a Paypal problem has caused her to rethink whether she should dump pc use completely. The problem with Paypal was that she needed to add another Currency to her "accept" list. Which should not have been a problem except that the option needed simply does not appear in her Paypal app.

No problem setting that option from her pc/browser.

An email from Paypal confirms that a pc/browser is required for some Paypal options - but no explanation as to why.

She is currently at her pc using A004 to type a letter to someone - something else that is not as easy to do on a mobile.

I suspect pcs are going to be around for a few more years yet.


Regards

Pete


Doug Bissett:

--- Quote ---I suspect pcs are going to be around for a few more years yet.
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I am surprised that somebody hasn't built a USB video adapter (perhaps they did, and I don't know about it). Attach one of them (with a full size screen), a mouse, and a keyboard, to USB on your phone, and you can use it as a computer. WiFi, and/or Bluetooth, could also be used.

My phone is Android 7 (not new). If I attach my USB hub, with keyboard and mouse (wireless) attached, they both work with the phone. Obviously, whatever problems your wife has, could easily be fixed, if somebody took an interest.

The bottom line is, that the average phone can already replace the average PC, but a couple of pieces are still missing, and some software tweaking is probably required.

The major "problem" is that you can't leave the phone  to monitor the internet (or do other things), when you go out, because you probably want to have the phone with you. Of course, a second, or third, phone (probably without a SIM card and phone plan), could do the job of a PC. It all depends on what you use each one for.

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