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Pete

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2020, 05:48:13 am »
Hi Dave

Tested whether the older USB flash drive used to install 5.0.4 can be ejected, left in the usb port and then attached a little later. No, LVM /REDISCOVERPRM does not (re)attach the drive which suggests that there will be a problem using it as an install drive.

I deleted all files on the older USB flash drive, used AOSBoot to create a 5.0.5 install USB flash drive and tested it. Same problem, drive does not get (re)attached.

As I know this USB flash drive was used to install 5.0.4 without any problems I suspect the problem could be related to the different USB drivers in use - 5.0.4 installed 12.01.

Or maybe the install script changed a bit from 5.0.4 to 5.0.5 and introduced this problem although I do not remember the 5.0.4 install asking for USB drive to be removed or inserted.


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Pete
« Last Edit: June 13, 2020, 03:18:53 pm by Pete »

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2020, 08:24:22 am »
Hi Pete
I would think more about the VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT.
Recently installed on a new arca505 partition, hang the system in five minutes.
Open the VLC + pmview + seamonkey
I have the virtualaddress... en 1536

Try doing the following, when booting the system, do not run any program after booting, look with mem / v in a comand com,
and look at the value of Available virtual memory: xxxx
You put that xxxx value in your config.sys in virtualaddresslimit, restart and tell us.

I did not hang the system anymore, I do not know if it will affect usb3.
But it costs little to prove it.
Saludos

Pete

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2020, 03:11:37 pm »
Hi roberto

I need to overcome the install from USB problem before worrying about "fine tuning" an installation  :-)

Will probably end up burning a dvd and installing from that... would be nice to resolve the install from USB problem though.


Regards

Pete



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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2020, 06:00:42 pm »
Hi Pete, since it is not USB3 related, perhaps a ticket is in order.

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2020, 06:56:51 pm »
If that proves not to be the problem, then we can use an "undocumented feature" to diagnose this a bit further.

Peter, change of plans. I'll PM you.

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2020, 03:43:17 pm »
Hi All

@Rich
Followed your PM instructions.


Further investigations on this install 5.0.5 from USB flash drive.

My system case has 2 front USB ports and a further front USB port is provided by my USB 2.0 internal cardreader.

All of those ports can be used to install 5.0.4 but none of those ports can be used to install 5.0.5

The same USB flash drive is involved for both 5.0.4 and 5.0.5 install attempts.


My Dell 1707FP monitor has an inbuilt 4 port USB 2.0 hub.

No problems installing 5.0.4 or 5.0.5 via any of the monitor USB ports.

I had not tried the monitor ports previously because I tend to use the system case front ports for any form of install as if the monitor gets turned off the USB connection is lost - definitely not a good thing to happen during an install.


Seems that for 5.0.5 not all USB ports are equal...


Regards

Pete




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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2020, 07:11:11 pm »
Hi Rene,

I have in total 16 GB and aound 12 GB is set to ram disk.

Yes network and sound is working. Is a replacement for a 10 year old HP desktop that is showing its age.

PC is working very well.

thanks. I meant the RAM that's seen by OS/2, without the RAM disk. In ArcaOS, there exists the "mem" utility that shows the RAM available to the system. (I hope it's more than 2 GB.)

That mainboard has an old chipset, but is still available, what makes it so interesting.


Hi Andreas,

it shows 3.5 GB to ArcaOS.

This mb is working very well and has bought a another PC with simular HW.


Rene

I just bought the same motherboard and have only 1519 MB available to the system.
The difference is in the processor, I use a Ryzen 3 3200, you a 1200. The 3200 has integrated graphics and the bios seems to reserve 2 gb for it. Which graphics card fo you use?


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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2020, 08:02:09 pm »
Hi Guzzi,

I use a NVIDIA GTX1050 with 2 GB memory.

Rene

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2020, 09:44:26 pm »
Really bad news. I think I'll rather stick to my 2 GB FM2+ mainboard.

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2020, 10:49:11 pm »
Strange that.  Most of my systems are using Ryzen 3 2200G processors because they give video out on all the v-out sockets.

Based on 8 GB memory mem gives the following.


[C:\]mem -v

Total physical memory:      7,906 MB
Accessible to system:       3,311 MB
Additional (PAE) memory:    4,595 MB

Resident memory:              198 MB
Available virtual memory:   3,760 MB

Available process memory:
  Private low memory:         217 MB
  Private high memory:      2,240 MB
  Shared low memory:          153 MB
  Shared high memory:       2,014 MB



[C:\]mem
7,906 MB  (3,311 MB accessible to system)

which runs everything I want without problems.

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2020, 11:19:46 pm »
Hi Guzzi, is that running AOS 5.0.5?

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2020, 10:30:41 pm »
Hi Guzzi, is that running AOS 5.0.5?

Yes. And it is exactly the same with a B450 mb and the same processor. Next weekend I'll plug in an old video card and set the bios to use that to see if it makes a difference. If it does, I'll just buy a modern cheapish video card, if it doesn't I'll change the processor for one without built-in video.

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2020, 01:39:52 am »
Hi guzzi,

What is the speed of the memory sticks you are using?  I ask because I have seen Ryzen based boxes where those building them went for the latest and greatest speed for the memory and the motherboard didn't support that - changing the memory sticks for lower speed ones brought the performance up to what was expected.

Also, can you post the output of mem /v  , I would like to see how it differs from mine (Ryzen 3 2200G)

EDIT:  If the motherboard is set to grab memory for the video on the processor just plugging in a video card will not change that.

On thinking about it, how much memory do you have on the board?  If you have only 4GB then you will be seeing memory constraints, I learned that when I first started experimenting with Ryzen processors and I ended up with 8GB as standard in all my Ryzen based boards - did go to 16GB for the two Linux boxes though.
 
« Last Edit: June 17, 2020, 01:50:07 am by ivan »

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2020, 01:07:23 am »
I have 8 GB ram, only 6 is seen. I hope, perhaps in vain, that choosing the external video adapter in BIOS will free the memory.

P:\>mem /v

Total physical memory:      6.114 MB
Accessible to system:       1.519 MB
Additional (PAE) memory:    4.595 MB

Resident memory:              157 MB
Available virtual memory:     342 MB

Available process memory:
  Private low memory:         303 MB
  Private high memory:      1.344 MB
  Shared low memory:          200 MB
  Shared high memory:         357 MB

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Re: ArcaOS DVD and bootable USB stick available
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2020, 02:29:35 am »
It is strange that only 6GB is found out of 8GB installed.  Either the motherboard isn't showing the correct memory assignment ot there are dud cells in the memory stick. 

It might be a good idea to use the MemTest86 from a usb stick to test the memory.