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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2020, 05:23:19 pm »
Solved! Thunderbird works with GMail with a "normal password" only if a specific app password is created for it in your Google account. I have to delete the specific password for Thunderbird that already existed in my account, create a new 16 characters one and then, with a new profile in Thunderbird, with this app specfific password and "normal password" option, finally, access my gmail account!

As I understood, for Google, each application running in a different OS, is another application.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2020, 06:41:17 pm »
Now, if someone is successfull in setting up a Yahoo mail account, that is, Thunderbird not crash when "DONE" buttom at the end of automatic setup is pushed, post here!

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2020, 07:05:28 pm »
What was the crash? Should be a trp file in your program directory.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2020, 08:10:49 pm »
Tried setting up a Yahoo mail account, no crash but it doesn't like my password. I'll try later with a fresh profile.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2020, 12:06:30 am »
Tried setting up a Yahoo mail account, no crash but it doesn't like my password. I'll try later with a fresh profile.

I tried with the same windows configuration: imap.mail.yahoo.com - port 993 - ssl - 0auth2 -> crash at the end of setup
I tried with port - 993 - normal password ( same as Gmail account) -> crash at the end of setup

Are there any other log to help or only Error Console?

I tried to set up Yahoo account in SeaMonkey too. Password is not accept.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2020, 07:17:29 am »

I tried with the same windows configuration: imap.mail.yahoo.com - port 993 - ssl - 0auth2 -> crash at the end of setup
I get a grey window (I believe it should be transparent but the WPS doesn't support that) at the bottom of the screen basically saying that the server doesn't support Oauth2.
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I tried with port - 993 - normal password ( same as Gmail account) -> crash at the end of setup

Are there any other log to help or only Error Console?

I tried to set up Yahoo account in SeaMonkey too. Password is not accept.

There should be some trp files in the program directory, name like 0073_28.TRP with various hex numbers. That should have a stack trace. You might have to install more dbg packages to get a clear trace, but as it is repeatable for you.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2020, 07:39:48 am »
Managed to crash TB after deleting and starting to recreate account. It was a simple OOM (out of memory) crash.
You might want to increase your VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT to 2560 in config.sys and reboot to see if that helps the crash.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2020, 05:58:03 am »
Tried setting up a Yahoo mail account, no crash but it doesn't like my password. I'll try later with a fresh profile.

I tried with the same windows configuration: imap.mail.yahoo.com - port 993 - ssl - 0auth2 -> crash at the end of setup
I tried with port - 993 - normal password ( same as Gmail account) -> crash at the end of setup

Are there any other log to help or only Error Console?

I tried to set up Yahoo account in SeaMonkey too. Password is not accept.

While OAuth2 works for Gmail here, it does not work for Yahoo here... I must use SSL/TLS and Normal Password.  I just went about trying to switch to OAuth2 for Yahoo (and AIM mail) due to emails they sent about disabling my current access option.  I was unsuccessful in getting OAuth2 to work for these.  I guess I need to dig out my Linux system and try setting it up there and see if OAuth2 works on it (my searching came up with about 50/50 whether it should/would work).

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2020, 05:48:47 pm »
Managed to crash TB after deleting and starting to recreate account. It was a simple OOM (out of memory) crash.
You might want to increase your VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT to 2560 in config.sys and reboot to see if that helps the crash.

I tried VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT=2560 but Thunderbird is still crashing when trying set up a Yahoo mail account. The only difference is the fact that now it beeps 3 times before crash. Attached is the 0041_01.TRP generated in \Programs\Thunderbird after crash.

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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2020, 05:59:21 pm »
It's an OOM crash, see below. Have you marked the DLLs to load high and are you using tbturbo?
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Failing Instruction
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 146A8A52  RET                     (c3)
 146A8A53  LEA   ESI, [ESI+0x0]    (8db6 00000000)
 146A8A59  LEA   EDI, [EDI+0x0]    (8dbc27 00000000)
 146A8A60  INT 3                   (cc)
 146A8A61 >NOP                     (90)
...
The INT 3 is a breakpoint, usually used for debugging or in this case to force a crash.

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Call Stack
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   EBP     Address    Module     Obj:Offset    Nearest Public Symbol
 --------  ---------  --------  -------------  -----------------------
 Trap  ->  146A8A61   XUL       0001:003B8A61  between NS_ABORT_OOM + 1 and nsISupports::COMTypeInfo::kIID - 11F  (both in nsDebugImpl.cpp)
...
This is the actual function that crashed. The rest can help with debugging but the truth is there is a lot of bad programming on Mozilla's part.
I do have a slightly better version I'm running but having problems with uploading. It still runs into the occasional OOM crash.


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Re: Thunderbird e-mail client
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2020, 11:12:21 pm »
While OAuth2 works for Gmail here, it does not work for Yahoo here... I must use SSL/TLS and Normal Password.  I just went about trying to switch to OAuth2 for Yahoo (and AIM mail) due to emails they sent about disabling my current access option.  I was unsuccessful in getting OAuth2 to work for these.  I guess I need to dig out my Linux system and try setting it up there and see if OAuth2 works on it (my searching came up with about 50/50 whether it should/would work).

According Google, theoretically, if your mail account has not "two-step verification" enable, Thunderbird would get access with "login with google" as usually it tries to do and all woud be ok with SSL and 0Auth. That is true in Linux and Windows but I could not to do with  OS/2 Thunderbird (the reported eternal checking password)

If your mail account has two-step verification enable, must be created an app password (16 characters) at your Google account page that will be used in place of your real password in Thunderbird and "normal password" will be used to connect to GMail. This is the only way that works for me.

Even in second case, different from what Google says and from what really happens with Thunderbird in Linux and Windows, when you try to set up another Gmail account in this  same OS/2 Thunderbird, you have to create an specific app password again.