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Dariusz Piatkowski:
Guys,
Off topic (as applicable to Doug's original inquiry here) question, but what's the issue with GMAIL?

I've got this setup here, been using that stuff for a few years now, first through PMMail and most recently with Thunderbird...smooth...love my GMAIL Categories, easy to kill off massive amounts of useless emails, let alone the auto-flagged SPAM stuff.

So while I'm living the GMAIL "bliss" (ha ha...does anything ever approach that though?) what am I being ignorant of?

Dave Yeo:
Well, there is the advertiser having access to all your mails. For certain mails it is fine but nice to have alternatives and, at least in theory, a Canadian base ISP's email should be more private.
Then, try sending someone a zip file or certain other types with Gmail.

Dariusz Piatkowski:
Dave,


--- Quote from: Dave Yeo on January 14, 2021, 04:26:37 pm ---Well, there is the advertiser having access to all your mails. For certain mails it is fine but nice to have alternatives and, at least in theory, a Canadian base ISP's email should be more private.
Then, try sending someone a zip file or certain other types with Gmail.

--- End quote ---

Yeah, I got that: "dance with the Devil and eventually you get burned".

I have historically had my email with a local ISP (MNSI.net - these guys have been awesome through the years, like going back to when DSL was the "big deal"...ha ha). Now that they caught up with their fibre rollout I went back for main provisioning as well, but my email has always stayed with them.

The stuff in GMAIL is the other ISP independant stuff...you know, the things you absolutely MUST be able to take with you should you ever change your ISP permanently, etc.

But yeah Dave, I understand your point.

Doug Bissett:

--- Quote ---Yeah, I got that: "dance with the Devil and eventually you get burned".
--- End quote ---

They switched me over, a few months ago. I have been "burned" more than once, since then.

Personally, I don't trust GMail any more than I trust microsoft, or apple. They are all on a mission to gather as much data on people as they possibly can. Currently, that seems to be used mostly for targeting advertising, but there are a lot more, less obvious, uses for that data. Currently, I cannot send  diagnostic data if it even has one e-mail address in it. I cannot send a text file that even looks like it might contain a script. I cannot send a file with the extension ".CMD". and many more things. All of those things either get lost in space, or are dumped into their SPAM filter, when somebody else sends them to me. Sometimes, they don't even notify people that they did things like that. Now, my contacts need to send a separate message, telling me that they sent a message with an attachment, so I know that I should have got something.

GMail will NOT let me control what gets filtered out, in any way, and I have had some very important messages filtered to their SPAM folder. Telus just keeps giving me the run around (I am pretty sure they don't even understand what I am telling them). They did "promise" a "safe, and user friendly, e-mail experience". They didn't deliver on either one. I also noticed, that my SPAM level has gone up, starting about a month after the switch to GMail (not saying they did it, but...).

I use PMMail, and PMMail doesn't know about their SPAM filter, so I need to check, using the web mail thing, a couple of times a day to see what they did, and correct their errors. That is a lot of extra work, for me, when PMMail does a far better job of filtering SPAM than they do. At least PMMail doesn't get advertising added to the messages.

Doug Bissett:
Back on topic...


--- Quote ---BTW... what ever happened to the once-standard advice of "Run checkini"?
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Slowly making progress. From CHECKINI.LOG:

--- Code: ---Folders of class TSMasterSetup will be regarded as startup folders.
Folders of class WPVault will be regarded as startup folders.
Folders of class WPUrlFolder will be regarded as startup folders.
Folders of class WPMinWinViewer will be regarded as startup folders.
Folders of class XWPTrashCan will be regarded as startup folders.
Querying WP_DESKTOP
Desktop found (Desktop handle is 0x37028)
Desktop location: C:\DESKTOP
Making a backup of OS2.INI to W:\UTILITY\WPTOOL\OS2SV.INI
Making a backup of OS2SYS.INI to W:\UTILITY\WPTOOL\OS2SYSSV.INI
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 Checking integrity of PM_Workplace:Handles0
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 Checking PM_Objects:ClassTable
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Test skipped !
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 PM_Abstract:Objects & PM_Abstract:FldrContents
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Test skipped !
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 Checking PM_Abstract:Icons
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Test skipped !
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 Checking PMWP_ASSOC_FILTER
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Test skipped !
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 Checking PMWP_ASSOC_TYPE
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Test skipped !
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 Checking PMWP_ASSOC_CHECKSUM
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Test skipped !
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 Checking PM_Workplace:FolderPos
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PM_Workplace:FolderPos:254698@XFSB
  points to 3E2EA - C:\NOWHERE\M3U PLAYLIST77<-UNABLE TO ACCESS
  DELETING PM_Workplace:FolderPos:254698@XFSB from the profile
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 Checking PM_PrintObject:JobCnrPos
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 Checking PM_Workplace:PalettePos
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 Checking PM_Workplace:StatusPos
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 Checking PM_PrintObject
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 Checking PM_Workplace:Startup
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 Checking PM_Workplace:Templates
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 Checking PM_Workplace:Location
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 Checking FolderWorkareaRunningObjects
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 Checking integrity of PM_Workplace:Handles0
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 Checking PM_Workplace:Handles0
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*DRIV: Y:\  (568 handles)

*DRIV: M:\  (610 handles)

*DRIV: W:\  (3028 handles)

*DRIV: C:\  (1019 handles)
 3E2EA:M3U PLAYLIST77 =>C:\NOWHERE\M3U PLAYLIST77<-UNABLE TO ACCESS

 DRIV: R:\  (1 handles)

*DRIV: D:\  (28 handles)
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles0:BLOCK1
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles0:BLOCK2
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles0:BLOCK3
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles0:BLOCK4
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles1:BLOCK1
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles1:BLOCK2
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles1:BLOCK3
  CORRECTING PM_Workplace:Handles1:BLOCK4
The Workplace shell has been reset!

--- End code ---

I expect that the first few lines tell the story, but the problem still exists. It looks like the "/T" parameter is needed, but he needs to hide the other boot drives. I am waiting to hear from him (if the whole thing isn't a vegetable by now).

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