Hobbes (Files) Reoganization

[Andreas Schnellbacher]

OK, That sounds reasonable. But generally, I prefer to have that stuff below the language dir itself. For the mentioned case it would be /dev/smalltalk/tools instead of /dev/tools/smalltalk.

IMO /dev/tools should be completely removed.

(It should be avoided that someone has to look for something in multiple dirs.)

[Martin Iturbide]

IMO /dev/tools should be completely removed.

I'm not sure about it. Where should I put the IDE, Make and other tools that does not belong to an specific language?
Check what is currently on /dev/tools

Regards

[Andreas Schnellbacher]

Yes, you are right. But when I see which tools are below /pub/os2/dev that aren't languages, I find it confusing to have a few under /pub/os2/dev/tools. I would just move /pub/os2/dev/tools with their dirs to /pub/os2/dev. Example: /pub/os2/dev/make.

IMO another dir that could receive some rework is /pub/os2/dev/util. In case of the one that I've contributed (htext201.zip), all files in /pub/os2/dev/help are rather utils. So why have some of them below dev/utils and others below dev?

Another dir is /pub/os2/dev/misc. I don't have an idea so far. So, there are utils, tools and misc. I would either remove them all or move many packages to either utils or tools and remove the others.

[Martin Iturbide]

Hi Andreas

I will keep trying to organize /dev and see how it goes evolving and see if I can came with an idea of "utils vs. tools vs. misc issue" and try to find a way out.
For sure I will be posting about that subject in some weeks.

Regards

[Martin Iturbide]

Hi

I'm trying to finish the /apps directory. If you have any suggestion for a better location of the files on "/pub/os2/apps/misc" please let me know.

Regards

[Andreas Schnellbacher]

Martin, I have started to write something together on 2022-02-23. Just let me rework and continue that. It may took a few more days.

[Martin Iturbide]

Hi

I created "/pub/os2/util/filesearch" to reduce a little bit the size of "/pub/os2/util/file" and since there were enough apps to justify the new directory.

I did something similar to "/pub/os2/util/multiuser" to reduce the size of "/pub/os2/util/wps".

Regards

[Martin Iturbide]

Hi

I'm still thinking about a better way to organize /dev.

Today I'm thinking on something like:

Dev
--Samples
----Drivers
----PM
----WPS
--Tools
----IDE
----Compilers
----Util
----Version
----Design
----Documentation
----Database
--DLL
--LIB
[/quote]

Hi

I started to reorganize things on /dev. For the moment I have this structure:

Dev
--Info
--Libraries
--Runtimes
--Samples
--Tools
...as it is right now. And include some new directory for Compilers/Interpreters to include the languages as subdir like:

Dev
--Info
--Libraries
--Runtimes
--Samples
--Tools
--Compilers (?)
---- ASM
---- C
---- CPP
---- ICON
---- SmallTalk
---- ....

But I'm still not sure if "Compilers" is the right word for that directory. Or maybe something more general like "Lang" that means "Language specific tools"

[Dave Yeo]

To me, compilers seems more accurate then lang, though not perfect. An assembler strictly speaking is not a compiler though similar.

[Andreas Schnellbacher]

In my file from 23-02-2002, I have: /pub/os2/dev/proglang

Either one would be OK for me (proglang, compilers or lang). "lang" has already another meaning, see the env var "LANG". BTW, there exist compilers and interpreters, so compilers might not be a suited place for e.g. REXX tools.

[Martin Iturbide]

I like "proglang" too.

[Martin Iturbide]

Hi

Should "dos2unix" and "unix2dos" be on the /dev directory? I read that is a more like a "text processing utility" or "text convert tool". Will it be fine to go on "/pub/os2/util/convert" ?

Update: thinking it better maybe "/pub/os2/dev/tools/parsers". ??


Regards

[Andreas Schnellbacher]

Should "dos2unix" and "unix2dos" be on the /dev directory?

No, it's not (only) a tool for developing, more a general tool.

I read that is a more like a "text processing utility" or "text convert tool". Will it be fine to go on "/pub/os2/util/convert"?

That seems to be the best destination IMO.

thinking it better maybe "/pub/os2/dev/tools/parsers".

No.

[Andreas Schnellbacher]

I like "proglang" too.

Ok, that makes it a bit easier. But moving all proglang files of /pub/os2/dev/ to that new subdir is much work. (IIRC, dirs are created automatically per placing archive files. Otherwise it would be easy by moving these trees with access to the file system. Maybe Curtis, the maintainer, has a better idea. I would address him first.)

[Martin Iturbide]

Hi

I'm taking the risk and created "/pub/os2/dev/proglang", and I'm starting to move things (compilers/interpreters) there little by little. I hope this will bring more visual order to  "/pub/os2/dev/" after some empty directories get removed.

I'm starting to lose "juice" here, so I will be going slowly since I put on my mouth more than I can chew.  Moral support is also welcome.

Regards