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hello,

fixpak 38 is the last available for french version of warp 3. so you guess it, i'm french.
i'm playing with a (boosted) PS/2 model 35sx, and really want to use OS/2 on it.
i've somewhat boosted this good old beast, replacing the onboard 386sx by a 486 SXLC2, and overclocked to 33 MHz. (was 20 at stock)
added a really decent video card with a S3 928 chip, network, and sound.
fun little machine :)

so, after fp38 installation, and right after reboot for locked files to be updated, it hang after the boot manager.
all i get is a blinking cursor instead of the OS/2 "blob", keyboard is non responsive too.

the machine is actually using a CF as hard drive, and i first though it may be due to that.
CF are tricky sometimes, but even with a real HDD result is the same.

any ideas ?
thanks :)



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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2022, 03:27:17 pm »
It's been a while since I supported OS/2 Warp3, but two ideas...

1. check that os2ldr and os2krnl are there on hard drive.
2. try to run sysinstx c: to make sure system files are where they are supposed to be.
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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2022, 05:13:54 pm »
Been a long time for me since I have run Warp 3 but I think there is something or somethings you may have to turn off in the Bios. anyone remember?

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2022, 09:20:45 pm »
It's been a while since I supported OS/2 Warp3, but two ideas...

1. check that os2ldr and os2krnl are there on hard drive.
2. try to run sysinstx c: to make sure system files are where they are supposed to be.
in between, i tried an older FP to see, fixpak 35. i got the same deadend after locked files have been updated. i checked the 2 files, they are in place.
then i run sysinstx from diskette, he did his job, but nothing better. still got "the blinking cursor of the death"

Been a long time for me since I have run Warp 3 but I think there is something or somethings you may have to turn off in the Bios. anyone remember?
this is an isa based PS/2, there's nothing much you can do in bios. the only thing you can switch is the bios shadowing, and set date/time.
i don't think it's related to that, but who know...

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2022, 09:39:10 pm »
so, after fp38 installation, and right after reboot for locked files to be updated, it hang after the boot manager.
all i get is a blinking cursor instead of the OS/2 "blob", keyboard is non responsive too.

Just asking to be sure: the machine booted normally before the fixpak was installed?

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2022, 10:13:59 pm »
Been a long time for me since I have run Warp 3 but I think there is something or somethings you may have to turn off in the Bios. anyone remember?

If I remember correctly, early Warp 3 needed to have a BIOS setting (something about booting OS/2 warp) set on, and later versions (including later Warp 3 fix packs) needed that set off. Try both ways, if you find it.

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2022, 10:50:11 pm »
Just asking to be sure: the machine booted normally before the fixpak was installed?
yes, never got any issues before fixpak installation.

If I remember correctly, early Warp 3 needed to have a BIOS setting (something about booting OS/2 warp) set on, and later versions (including later Warp 3 fix packs) needed that set off. Try both ways, if you find it.

there's no options related to operating system in bios, as i said, this is a PS/2 and it's supposed to be supported by warp 3.
the only bios option i know about OS/2 is related to ram over 64MB. pre warp 4 need it, warp 4 and above not.
and of course, it's not the problem here, as it's a 386sx bus, maximum is 16MB.

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2022, 03:24:34 am »
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there's no options related to operating system in bios, as i said, this is a PS/2 and it's supposed to be supported by warp 3.
the only bios option i know about OS/2 is related to ram over 64MB. pre warp 4 need it, warp 4 and above not.
and of course, it's not the problem here, as it's a 386sx bus, maximum is 16MB.

That is the setting that needs to change.

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2022, 04:09:16 am »
Hi Doug,

BIOS option related to ram over 64MB doesnt exist on a 386 PS/2
I vaguely remember something about the later FP3x's that required a fix or something for PS/2's, easy answer was I think a jump straight to FP40.
It's so many decades now my memories a bit murky on this.

I gifted my remaining PS/2's last year prior to my move from Perth to Melbourne, one was a IBM PS/2 Model 70 with Warp3 but no idea what FP level it was.
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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2022, 06:25:09 am »
I vaguely remember something about the later FP3x's that required a fix or something for PS/2's, easy answer was I think a jump straight to FP40.

fp40 seems to not exist for french version, it's nowhere on ibm ftp. thoses still available from ibm for french localized are 32, 35, 38.
but good to know, i'll dig the question about fix for PS/2's, maybe it's still somewhere on the net :D

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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2022, 09:43:32 am »
Try the PS/2 newsgroups as well.

comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
or
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Someone there maybe able to point you to what you need.
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Re: Warp3 boot hang with blinking cursor after fp38 installation
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2022, 10:06:33 am »
thank you.
i asked there, and let you know if something new.