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Dave Yeo:

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--- Quote from: Dave Yeo on June 02, 2014, 05:00:47 am ---At some point Bitwise is going to run out of funding for the Firefox port, dmik has put a lot of time in understanding the code, which is a huge mess so I'd suggest it as another use for the fund.

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I would support this idea too  -   without proper browser,  os/2 has no chance to survive

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Another option is to Port QT5 and use one of the webkit browsers... less work probably in the long term and more options available too.  FIrefox seems to be doing its best to marginalize itself.

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How good is the QT5 version of webkit compared to the Apple version or others?

Neil Waldhauer:
I don't favor funding any of the proposals at this time.

A new WiFi driver would be nice, but anyone can have WiFi by plugging in an Intel 5100 and using Doug B's excellent extensions to GenMac.
I'd actually use eclipse, but I can get by without it. We already have lots of excellent programmers editors on OS/2.

I like funding the bww Firefox as outlined by Dave Yeo. I wish we could pay bww to hire another programmer.
Pasha's driver framework is tempting, but only if we can hire him for a couple of years while we get the bugs worked out. Alas, the common fund is too small for that.

Dave Yeo:

--- Quote from: Pavel Shtemenko on June 03, 2014, 12:08:41 am ---
--- Quote from: OS4User on June 02, 2014, 09:27:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dave Yeo on June 02, 2014, 05:00:47 am ---At some point Bitwise is going to run out of funding for the Firefox port, dmik has put a lot of time in understanding the code, which is a huge mess so I'd suggest it as another use for the fund.

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I would support this idea too  -   without proper browser,  os/2 has no chance to survive

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Any browser can not work if driver for netcard is missing :)

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I'm replying without need for a netcard though everyone else in the house is dependent on my netcard and get pissed off when it stops working due to IRQ weirdness. It would be nice to have a driver that worked and kept working for more then a couple of days.

Boris:

--- Quote from: Neil Waldhauer on June 03, 2014, 04:49:46 am ---We already have lots of excellent programmers editors on OS/2.

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I doubt that. Can you please name some?


--- Quote from: Neil Waldhauer on June 03, 2014, 04:49:46 am ---Pasha's driver framework is tempting, but only if we can hire him for a couple of years while we get the bugs worked out.

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It may be so (I will ask) he will support his drivers later for free in his spare time; please keep in mind that he was developing OS/4 alongside with other talented programmers for years for free in his spare time.

The main work to produce the first release is what takes that much time so the decision to try to get the Fund's money to be able to work on this full day for a couple of month was made.

I'm really confused that such a great offer doesn't get supported unanimously by the community, and there are many people against it.

Please also remember that Dmik's time costs more, and before we make any decisions, it would be better to calculate what will we get in each case:

* Eclipse/SWT porting proposal: not enough money to complete the port, but will make the port easier later
* Send the money to bww bitwise works GmbH: ? ? ? probably a completed 31 ESR port; I think we should contact Silvan first
* Pasha's proposal: working drivers for wired NICs + Wi-Fi or hardware accelerated video drivers

Andi B.:
One question - was Pavel the developer of ACPI before David took over? Or do anyone know who it was?

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