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Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« on: September 10, 2023, 06:49:44 pm »
Hello

Now that I was able to install ArcaOS 5.1.0 two machines with touch screen support, I want to see if by any chance I can get support with Wim's drivers.

My first try is with the "Lenovo Miix 510-12ISK".  Since it is dual boot, I had tested with Windows 10 that it has a working touch screen and the Lenovo Thinkpad Active Pen.

I had generated it's PCI hardware report and USB report, but I can find which is the Hardware ID I should include on USBECD. I'm attaching the devices that I see on Windows 10, but the hardwareID is not a regular one. I can only see is a Wacom device.

My plan is to start with Wim's "Thinkpad Yoga12" package, since it' the more brand related.

I want to add:
 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\XSMOUSE.SYS
 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\AMOUSE.SYS STYPE=XSMOUSE$
 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:????:????:???? /N:$FINGER$ /S /V
 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:????:????:???? /N:$STYLUS$ /S /V
 RUN=C:\OS2\BOOT\YOGA12.EXE

But I need to fill up the ????

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« Last Edit: September 10, 2023, 06:53:11 pm by Martin Iturbide »
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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2023, 02:46:41 am »
See this page
https://home.hccnet.nl/w.m.brul/penguide/index.html#LenovoThinkPadUSB

Thanks Joop

I'm reading the page, and I'm leaning to think that my Wacom device on the Lenovo Miix is a COM Device, since I can not find it on pci.exe or lsusb.
According to what I'm reading I need to use "ACPITREE", but I can not find it. I saw an old Alex Taylor post (2014) where he was not able to find ACPITREE, but he found the IRQ looking in Windows, but I don't get where to find that info.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2023, 03:53:54 am »
Have you tried rmview? rmview /irq should show the interrupts, rmview /io the ports, rmview /? for help.



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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2023, 02:25:32 am »
Thanks Dave

I used  rmview /irq and /io, but I don't understand how to map that data to the PSCOM.SYS driver. (I guess I need to use that PSCOM.SYS)

This is the sample of the site:
 DEVICE=O:\OS2\BOOT\PSCOM.SYS (1,200,4,I)
(COM1 to access the Wacom Pen at port=200 and irq=4)

But don't know which device is the correct one from the list and how to get those values.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2023, 03:49:03 am »
Sorry, I was mistaken about rmview, seems to only work with the driver correctly installed. There must be a way as the installer finds com ports during install.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2023, 07:24:06 am »
Does it really find all COM ports or only the default COM ports? With a legacy BIOS (CSM), the default COM ports could always be found by looking at the BIOS data area at real address 40:0 (physical address 400). I don't know if that data area still exists in a UEFI system.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2023, 08:12:04 am »
At one point, testing 5.0.2.3, it found this,
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Bus 0 (PCI Express), Device Number 3, Device Function 3
 Vendor 8086h Intel Corporation
 Device 29B7h 82Q35 Express Serial KT Controller

On a previous computer, resulting in pscom.sys being installed and the boot stopping as pscom.sys couldn't find the port as it was likely part of the Intel management engine and inaccessible. Of course that is using pci.exe and I can't remember if pscom had any arguments. It did result in adding logic in the installer filtering out that controller.
I can't turn off the CSM on this machine to test whether it would find COM 1 (or 2-4 if set that way) and does raise the question whether a pure UEFI machine still has an ISA bus. This one still has the ISA bus with the parallel and serial port on it, it's an old machine.
Hmm, looking at a random testlog from a recent machine on the list, I see,
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Bus 0 (PCI Express), Device Number 22, Device Function 3
 Vendor 8086h Intel Corporation
 Device A363h Cannon Lake PCH Active Management Technology - SOL
 Command 0007h (I/O Access, Memory Access, BusMaster)
 Status 00B0h (Has Capabilities List, Supports 66MHz,
   Supports Back-To-Back Trans., Fast Timing)
 Revision 10h, Header Type 80h, Bus Latency Timer 00h
 Self test 00h (Self test not supported)
 PCI Class Simple Communication, type Serial - 16550
 Subsystem ID 313617AAh Unknown
 Subsystem Vendor 17AAh Lenovo
 Address 0 is an I/O Port : 30A0h
 Address 1 is a Memory Address (0-4GiB) : B123F000h
 System IRQ 19, INT# D
 New Capabilities List Present:
   Message Signalled Interrupt Capability
     MSI is disabled
     MSI function can generate 64-bit addresses
   Power Management Capability, Version 1.2
     Does not support low power State D1 or D2
     Does not support PME# signalling
     Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving)

So perhaps all recent machines that have a serial port have PCI ones.
Martin, have you looked at the pci.exe report.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2023, 08:46:25 am »
You have a USB device, and I suppose it should be:

DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:#### /N:$FINGER$ /S /V
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:#### /N:$STYLUS$ /S /V

(You have not provided enough hardware info that would allow to find out the device release but I think that last parameter of /D is optional)
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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2023, 12:17:04 pm »
So perhaps all recent machines that have a serial port have PCI ones.
This is true for Notebooks, but not for desktop boards. Don't know how much are available but if you look for a standard COM port, they still exist one some motherboards. Sometimes there's only the header on the board and you need to buy a matching cable to get it to the back side of your PC.

I guess what the Intel management engine includes (sometimes it reports itself as Com42:) is something you can't use for anything else then let Intel manage your system. But I'm not an expert here. I only switch IME off on all my systems as much as possible.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2023, 02:27:23 pm »
You have a USB device, and I suppose it should be:

DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:#### /N:$FINGER$ /S /V
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:#### /N:$STYLUS$ /S /V

(You have not provided enough hardware info that would allow to find out the device release but I think that last parameter of /D is optional)

Hello Lars

I have the Tablet/Laptop device PCI report here: https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Lenovo_Miix_510-12ISK_Hardware_Report
I can not find any "056A:508C" device with PCI.exe or lsusb. What other report do you suggest me to try to find the ID of this device.

I'm still not sure if the touch screen and pen support is USB or COM related.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2023, 05:27:04 pm »
While searching the internet I found "GNU Linux Debian 11 hardware review - Lenovo Ideapad MIIX 510 12ISK_dmesg.txt" which I attached here.

It appears there as a USB device and its device driver statement would be:

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DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:0001 /N:$LENOVO$ /S /V

To be on the save side use the wildcard character # for the device release number:

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DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:#### /N:$LENOVO$ /S /V

After reboot you may run the USBWRITE.CMD script to obtain and display the device descriptor, configuration descriptors and associated interface and endpoint descriptors. Use  USBWRITE $LENOVO$ for this particular USB device.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2023, 06:19:37 pm »
Hello Wim

I tried on my config.sys
Quote
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\XSMOUSE.SYS
 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\AMOUSE.SYS STYPE=XSMOUSE$
 ...
 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:056A:508C:#### /N:$LENOVO$ /S /V
When I run "usbwrite $LENOVO$" I get:
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SYS0031: A device attached to the system is not functioning.
Just in case I'm attaching my testlog report.

FYI: Since this machine is dual boot, I had checked that on Windows 10 the touch screen and pen support works.

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2023, 03:13:51 pm »
Hallo Martin,

Alas, in ..generic.log the touch screen device does not show up as a USB device nor as a COM device. In Linux Debian it shows up as an SMBus attached I2C device from Synopsys Designware. That system knows how to deal with that and represents it as USB device 056A:508C:0001 (which we tried and failed on our system). As far as I know there is no software to deal with I2CBus/SMBus devices from an application in our operating system. Therefore pen and touch cannot be supported on this laptop.

Regards, Wim.     

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Re: Touch Screen and Pen support on ArcaOS 5.1.0
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2023, 06:52:14 pm »
Thanks for the reply. I will move on to try a different touch screen laptop.

But I would like to know, is there a way in ArcaOS to generate some report that will list the touch screen and pen devices like the report that was tool from Linux Debian? (that report that Wim shared from the internet). LSUSB does not show it in this case also.

I'm still trying to find ACPITREE, but I don't know if that is the right tool for this, or where to get it.

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