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Warpstock 2024: Coming? Not Coming? Why?

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Michael:
Hello Lewis,

First of all, I would like to praise you for your commitment. We are all aware of the situation of trying to achieve something with the few developers. Therefore, you also deserve my greatest respect.

The reasons why I don't come to WarpStock are varied. Partly professional and partly private. But that has nothing to do with the event itself or the prices or anything else related to it.

Nevertheless, I have to agree with Sigurd. The most modern bootable system is of no use if you don't have the latest software for OS/2. OpenOffice may still do its job, but it is already outdated, and not just under OS/2. And the browser is now the most important application in the private environment and in the office. We're welcome to open a new thread. Everything stands or falls in this segment.

Apart from that. A careless Linux port also does not take advantage of the advantages of WPS or other OS/2-specific technologies. The technologies for which we all appreciate and love OS/2.

The situation is what it is. I think it's a huge shame. ArcaOS runs extremely well and reliably on my ThinkPad. If it weren't for the browser situation, I wouldn't even dream of looking for an alternative system. But a point has now been reached where daily work can hardly be completed.

So all that remains is to wait and see whether a solution might be found. Of course, Arca Noae's job is not to develop a browser. But you are our contacts and it is “your” operating system. If you can't find a solution to this, who will?

Andi B.:

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No.


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Lot of reasons. To far for me. I never ever was in America and think will never. Would have to spend at least 1 week of holiday without my family which I don't want for a hobby. I've a full time job with limited holidays. And it would need a big (huge) amount of money for traveling and accommodation.

I also lost some interest in ArcaOS. Partly because it's getting harder to do what I want with my systems (OS/2 limitations, browser, ...), partly because I don't spent so much time with computers in general than the decades before. I still use OS/2 and ArcaOS and sometimes like to code for this platform. But not whole nights anymore.

Personally I don't have any need for wifi drivers anymore. Neither UEFI or high DPI displays. I can live without that. I don't use notebooks very much but when I do then they run linux primarily. Although I test it, I don't use OS/2 on modern notebooks. 

Probably I will setup my next desktop system again with the primary OS being ArcaOS. But it have to run beside some Linux and Win installations. Thanks ArcaNoae I still can use OS/2-ArcaOS on rather new desktop hardware. Otherwise I had quit using OS/2 years ago. But still with a working desktop system, today I need some Linux boxes around which I connect via RDP/git/....

Gordon Snider:
Lewis,

As for ideas for seminar topics:  I have 3 computers running ArcaOS.  I would like to learn
Networking, not just how to set up Samba, but how it all works so I really understand
what happens sending files from computer to computer. 

Also I have a distant dream of learning C and doing some programming.  (I have taken 3 or 4
runs at C using Kernighan and Ritchie but never seem to get to the end of the book.)
I have just recently downloaded the latest toolkit, the Open Watcom compiler and the Drv32
kit from David's site.   Where from there?  Ideas for projects?
 

JTA:
Q's extracted from Lewis R. post above:

1. would you come to Warpstock this year?
  - Nothing about the Warpstock site encouraged me to attend in-person ... site must be improved to do a better selling job for OS/2 (why come back to it, why use it, etc.) and ultimately the Warpstock event itself. Take a look at HaikuOS.org and replicate everything. Build interest in Warpstock, starting here ...
  - there absolutely must be a Team OS/2; they have to build interest in everything, everywhere in their geography (OS/2 clubs, etc), all year long, so folks are lined up at the Warpstock locations to see the events. If you build it up, they will come ...
  - both in-person and virtual attendance must be on par, and the warpstock website must make this super-simple (to pay fees, participate, etc.)

2. would sessions on browser functionality make the difference?
  - there must be a "chocolatey" cli install tool for OS/2 (not ANPM, not yum, which are linux tools and which themselves get in the way); whomever creates a browser solution gets the (user) install done with a simple "choco install ThisNiftyBrowser"  ... perhaps "Warp install ThisNiftyBrowser"
  - Warpstock site must have the package list, similar to chocolatey.org
  - there must be well-defined solutions for modern browser access inside OS/2 (AToF & winflector solution provides any modern browser within OS/2)

3. Would sessions on how to use the platform for daily computing make the difference?
  - possibly ... but definitely have Team OS/2 do this, with every team member coming up with tutorials; each team member works with one or more SME's, builds the tutorial. depending on what they came up with, I might attend in-person
  - have a warpstock website suggestion box to catch idea/tutorial requests
  - for the most popular sessions, do live sessions at each location
  - How to solve every technical difficulty with OS/2; bring a laptop & SSD, we'll have you set up with AToF before the session is over (the Warpstock USB Key does the heavy lifting).

4. what would make the trip worthwhile vs watching a live stream
  - building up so much interest in OS/2 (thanks to Team OS/2 activities all year-long), that I absolutely must attend the in-person event nearest me, vs virtual, just to catch the buzz and receive the event largesse (usb key, coffee cup, etc.). Some event items will ONLY be at the in-person locations?
  - USB key (given away at the event, part of event fee) boots directly into OS/2 and demonstrates things; warpstock site mirrors this
  - coordinate the Warpstock event across geographies, such that there are two simultaneous events in east/west usa, two in north/south australia (north covers asia-pacific?), and equivalent for europe; it doesn't matter which location you are at, you are there at Warpstock.
  - roadmaps ... not just ArcaOS' product roadmaps, but roadmaps for OS/2. a roadmap for each of:
    - Team OS/2 (what they did the past year, what they will do next year, are you Warped enough for recruitment, etc.)
    - OS/2 dev (code camps, system setups, etc)
    - getting more apps to OS/2 (LibreOffice, ...)
    - getting apps to do the OS/2 thing (wps, objects)
    - getting past 64-bits for now (AToF and Winflector does this)
    - getting to 64-bits (WorkplaceOS-like on sel4/Nova microkernel)
    - and many more ...

Hope this helps ...

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