Best Email Program on ArcaOS

[Craig Miller]

Hi everyone, I am running ArcaOS 5.1 on bare metal (IBM Thinkpad T43) and things are working well for the most part but I am really struggling to get any of my emails working.

For awhile now I have only used outlook on Thunderbird 45.8.0 in ArcaOS with no issues but for the last few months it wont accept my password. This password works on any other computer/cell phone I have and I have checked a dozen times in Thunderbird. I use Thunderbird on my Windows machine and it works there fine.

I also have email address in gmail and yahoo I would love to use in one program.

Does anyone have suggestions on an email program in AcraOS I can use? I have not used PMMail forever, maybe that would work? I don't know =/

Also, I tried using the web based apps for the emails (I really don't want to) but they all failed because they say Firefox is too old to use.

Anyways, I am open to try any email apps out there, let me know what works for you!

[Roderick Klein]

Are you using the account with gmail ?

Roderick Klein

[Dave Yeo]

Hi Craig,
Unluckily Thunderbird (and SeaMonkey which shares the code) is about the best we have for these sites.
The problem is that Oauth2 is broken on our ports, seems to work but fails as you found. The workaround I use for Gmail is to use an app password, https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en, IIRC you need to use your phone to verify things the first time you use it and then it keeps on working.
It seems that Outlook allows the same thing though I have no experience with it. See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/account-billing/how-to-get-and-use-app-passwords-5896ed9b-4263-e681-128a-a6f2979a7944.
The last time I looked at Yahoo, it used a more regular sign in process. If they have gone to Oauth2, you can probably search for using an app password there too.
Let us know if you get Outlook working on Thunderbird, really we should have a FAQ on this stuff.

[Dave Yeo]

Also, I forgot about https://www.arcanoae.com/resolving-issues-with-gmail-and-oauth-2-0-requirements/
Feedback on extending this wiki for Outlook welcome.

[ivan]

I have used PMMail since it became available and see no reason to change.  I think a lot depends on what you want to do with e-mail, it is NOT a substitute for a web page although a lot of people have been conned into thinking it is judging by the amount of garbage I get from friends.

[Dave Yeo]

The problem with PMMail is that it doesn't handle some of the security connections that these big email providers demand. Perhaps if it now supports the correct TLS, an app password would also work.

[David McKenna]

 I have also been using PMMail with Comcast for many years with almost no issues. The only issue I have had is when a message must be read in a browser and the browser doesn't support the Javascript junk it contains.

Regards,

[Roderick Klein]

The problem with PMMail is that it doesn't handle some of the security connections that these big email providers demand. Perhaps if it now supports the correct TLS, an app password would also work.

The new PMMAIL version from OS/2 VOICE can a setup with stunnel to provide encryption.

Roderick

[Dave Yeo]

The problem with PMMail is that it doesn't handle some of the security connections that these big email providers demand. Perhaps if it now supports the correct TLS, an app password would also work.

The new PMMAIL version from OS/2 VOICE can a setup with stunnel to provide encryption.

Roderick

Both SSL/TLS and StartTLS?
I see for Gmail, I'm using SSL/TLS and normal password so likely to work with stunnel. I'd guess that Outlook is similar.

[Andi B.]

I think the topic is a bit misleading. I think you're really want to know with which program can you connect to your preferred email provider.

Our Seamonkey/Thunderbird are perfectly well email programs. Means displaying, filter, manage emails and different email accounts.

But you seem to have problems to fetch emails from some providers. First I think you've to decide if you wanna IMAP or POP and which provider do you need/like. Different providers have different authentication restrictions. That's why this discussion went of to Oaut or stunnel.... F.e. my providers don't need fancy Oaut. I usually use POP with gmx.net and a1.net. But if you need to use gmail I think the question have to be 'how to fetch email from gmail (POP/IMAP?)'? Mind Google is known to change things quite often. It also seems that Google (gmail) currently uses different restrictions in different parts of the world. So when it works f.i. here in Europe it does not mean it will in Australia. (See current discussion on weasel list.)

So I think you've to find out first what Google and Yahoo needs in your area. No clue where you're living Craig, but maybe someone in your region knows the information. I for myself quit all gmail related services a while ago as I found it to be too cumbersome to follow there ever changing restrictions.

[Craig Miller]

I live in the US (TN to be more specific).

I am just looking for a way to check my email (and leave it on the server, so no downloading).

I am a long time OS/2 user (back form 2.1) but also a typical user where I know what I am doing but never really digging deep (programing, etc).

I wish there was an easy way to just get my email, and since our browser is so old (and I am excited for a newer one like Dooble), I am not even able to go that route (webmail).

I appreciate everyone's comments, so for right now I don't think there are any great ways of getting email (other apps included) but I will try and see how the gmail setup is though outlook is my primary email because of work).

If I am able to get any of them (outlook, gmail, or yahoo) working I will let everyone know!

Thanks!!!

[Thomas M.]

Hallo Craig,

For me the best Email program is PMMail although I right now have some trouble with sendung Emails as my Provider has changed something which I up to now do not really understand. But I hope I will do in the near future.

Thomas

[mauro]

as also Andy B. wrote, Seamonkey email client fits the need.
Just configure the account in IMAP mode to leave your messages on the server.
I have it working for GMAIL.
To make the client connection work, you will just be required to create a specific "App Password" for Seamomkey in the security section of your GMAIL account settings page.