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Brainstorm: What is Next with OS/2 ?
Martin Iturbide:
I still think that we are falling behind in applications. A modern web browser will help on that, since there are a lot of applications that are on the web without the need to install those, and on the other side compiling and porting applications are now starting to get complicated because of the 32bits/Memory limitation.
A Modern Browser and solving the memory limitations are getting more important for new apps.
Regards
Eugene Gorbunoff:
memory issues:
as I understand, libc uses shared memory.
there were attempts to make it use HighMem.
There were discussions, there were announcements.
there were attempts to patch exe files to use HighMem.
But current situation: you can start Firefox and OpenOffice only 1 time.
if you load this heavy apps then memory is occupied and you should reboot system to use firefox again.
Java VM (I don't remember, does it depend on libc), is consuming low memory too.
Question: what is the current state of libc ? it was modified?
P.S. It's not a claim. I make technical request.
Lars:
About libc, read here:
https://github.com/bitwiseworks/libcx
section "Notes on C heap displacement."
Klafi:
Dear all,
How about an OS/2 or ARCOS without Windows and DOS? Wouldn't that be easier?
Thanks everyone
Martin Iturbide:
Hello Klafi
--- Quote from: Klafi on March 31, 2025, 11:44:03 am ---Dear all,
How about an OS/2 or ARCOS without Windows and DOS? Wouldn't that be easier?
Thanks everyone
--- End quote ---
I personally don't use the DOS VDM and Win-OS/2 as a vital thing of OS/2, but I was amazed to to see some years ago the quantity of people defending it because they run a DOS or Win16 software on it.
If you think that ArcaOS without DOS VDM and Win-OS/2 will make it easier because some patent or fee that is currently part of Microsoft, and will make ArcaOS cheaper, I don't think so. It looks to me that IBM has the right over the MS binaries included in OS/2 and there is no active money exchange anymore. I think of this because the IBM and Microsoft Jointly development agreement that I was able to read, it says that both parties has the right of the source code exchanged there.
I also don't think that DOS VDM and Win-OS/2 is the only limitation for IBM not to open source OS/2. There is also a lot of MS code in PM, Kernel, drivers and also code from third parties (Adobe). Even that I think that Microsoft won't be a problem when open sourcing OS/2, I think IBM does not want to take the risk without a good business case that provides them more benefits then trouble.
But I'm open to other opinion and ideas.
Regards
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