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Boris:
--- Quote from: ivan on June 13, 2014, 01:02:25 pm ---YMMV
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Ivan, I think if Martin gets ready to provide a hardware compatibility report service, a plain text template to be sent to an e-mail address might still have be an optional alternative.
--- Quote from: ivan on June 13, 2014, 01:02:25 pm ---my 50+ years in IT and Engineering
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Do not really help in arguments.
--- Quote from: ivan on June 13, 2014, 01:02:25 pm ---keeping it as simple as possible
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As simple as possible for the user, not for the developer.
Eugene Gorbunov is having troubles with his hardware compatibility db just because the UI is not quite... er-r... had been worked out...
Martin Iturbide:
Hi Ivan.
I think that your suggestion of making templates with the Wiki is good. I'm trying to refresh my knowledge with MediaWiki templates.
I had created a Driver template for example:
Check out the Wiki source of this page: http://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Webcam_Device_Drivers
I think it will be easy to put a driver in this format that making the users create a table.
Let me think more about the rest.
Martin Iturbide:
What do you think?
THis:
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==USB==
{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1"
|-
! Brand !! Name !! Model !! Chipset !!Port Type !! Driver !!Comments
|-
|Logitech || Logitech C250 Webcam || || ||USB||[[Webcam Device Drivers#USBECD.SYS|USBECD.SYS]] ||
|-
|Chicony || Chicony Integrated Camera || || ||USB||[[Webcam Device Drivers#USBECD.SYS|USBECD.SYS]] ||
|-
|Ricoh|| Ricoh Integrated Camera || || ||USB||[[Webcam Device Drivers#USBECD.SYS|USBECD.SYS]] ||
|-
|}
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Vs. this
--- Quote ---==USB==
{{HWList
|Device=
{{HWItem
|Brand=Logitech
|Name=[[Logitech C250 Webcam]]
|Model=
|Port=USB
|Chipset=?
|HardwareID=?
|Driver=[[Webcam Device Drivers#USBECD.SYS|USBECD.SYS]]
|Comment=Working}}
{{HWItem
|Brand=Chicony
|Name=[[Chicony Integrated Camera]]
|Model=
|Port=USB
|Chipset=?
|HardwareID=?
|Driver=[[Webcam Device Drivers#USBECD.SYS|USBECD.SYS]]
|Comment=Working}}
{{HWItem
|Brand=Ricoh
|Name=[[Ricoh Integrated Camera]]
|Model=
|Port=USB
|Chipset=?
|HardwareID=?
|Driver=[[Webcam Device Drivers#USBECD.SYS|USBECD.SYS]]
|Comment=Working}}
}}
Is it the same thing?
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Joop:
I think its a good plan, but I'm not sure if the .be site is interesting because lots of stuff is not in the shops anymore. Now we can deal with older hardware due to the nature of our drivers, but how far back are you going with older hardware?
Did looked at the site, found already a missing group ;-), can I add that? And where do you add that group?. Its a tablet as replacement for the mouse from Wacom.
The Russian site is not clear enough and not in the proper language, always difficult if you working worldwide, so no blame to the owner.
I think that four or five fields will do with a remarker field for if some chip on a motherbord is not supported or does the wrong things. I agree with others that it must be simple for adding. If all of us can just do that will also include the danger that some "os/2-haters any form" can do that, only with other intensions. So how are you going to solve that question?
Doug Bissett:
--- Quote ---The Russian site is not clear enough and not in the proper language, always difficult if you working worldwide, so no blame to the owner.
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That is one of the reasons why I quit updating that site, but more important is that if I get a new device (Lenovo ThinkPad L530, for example), I would have had to mark it as "Poor", because there was missing support for memory above 512 meg (it has 4 GB), and the Realtek NIC did not work. Both problems have been resolved, so now the rating should be "Good", or even "Excelent", but there is no way, that I can find, to change that rating. All that I can do, is add a note that it has been resolved, and the rating should now change. A casual observer would never bother to read all of the notes that change the rating. All they will see is the "Poor" rating. I also don't want to bother finding web pages that refer to the device. Most of the time, they really don't apply anyway. A user can google for that information, if they care.
The main problem with all of the hardware rating sites, is that they get old, and it can be difficult to determine if a device is currently available, or 10 years old, and "out of stock". I don't know of a good way to resolve that problem.
--- Quote ---I agree with others that it must be simple for adding.
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Absolutely required. It should also be easy to change things, as the situation changes.
Unfortunately, as noted, there are people out there who can't seem to control the urge to destroy things. Using the OS2WORLD logon helps, but that can still be misused (as seen in the forums sometimes), and a lot of damage could be done, very quickly. Perhaps, there could be a list of "known" users, who can post without review. Others would need to have their posts reviewed, before changes are made. The person who does the review could decide to add the poster to the white list, leave them unrated, or banish them. That will be a LOT of work, for somebody, for a while, but probably not as much work as cleaning up a mess.
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