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Discussion about Open Source - Was: eCS 2.2 C API documentation

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dbanet:

--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---Two arguments:

1) Moreover, the users get Windows license for free (with new computer).

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False, it is included in the price of the machine.


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---So it's clear that we can't sell OS/2 to new people.

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True, you can't.


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---OS/2 can be sold to new customers only if:

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The price will be lower than Windows. Currently Windows is obviously a better OS for a user than OS/2. So the price should be lower.


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---* a company purchases it ..

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Soon there will be no such companies, as they will migrate. Sticking to this means killing OS/2 even more.


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---* .. to use as black box (with running program which performs one task)

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Not efficient. Why would I pay that much for OS/2 if I have a lot more flexible GNU/Linux? For free?


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---So, this example that OS/2 + shareware apps  is more expensive than Win 8 licenses with the included apps  is not important in our discussion.

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What? How the !@#$ you've managed to make that conclusion? I've literally busted all your previous logic there, above ^.

You want to achieve something, but you are obviously a very bad politician (or an advocate).

In the rush to try to prove something you make a lot of stupid mistakes wholly breaking the logic; you give false facts, and do wrong conclusions.


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---2) Again, nobody can demonstrate examples of open source software created in OS/2. (yes, I see many small open sourced free utilities). There are many open source apps ported  from linux only. In reality, there is no OS/2 Open Source projects (we have .. ~ 5 .. 10 open source projects of medium size only: XWP, PM123, Warpin, ..).

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Dude, are you !x#$ing insane?? https://github.com/OS2World/

Any of the guys who have written code, invested their time and resources and then made their work available to everyone (including you, tho they better did not!) are much more valuable than all your stuff and the whole your company!


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---> it is better to finance Open Source projects, than buying commercial software.

So, this conclusion is dangerous and wrong.

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You are dangerous and wrong.


--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 09:58:12 pm ---You recommend to users pay for "imported" software. And don't support developers of native software. This kills OS/2 platform.

For Dutch users: Imagine that all milk in your shops is imported from Romania, all beef from Argentina, all cheese from Switzerland. Tulips from Turkey, etc. As result, dutch people will spend more time watching TV because of unemployment.


My conclusion from our discussion:
Imported software should pay taxes. Imported libraries should be free of taxes. But it's impossible to collect the taxes. In this case, it's necessary prohibit the sponsorship of applications porting. And support porting of libraries only.

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Have I already said you are a very bad politician?

Now you are starting to rave. WTF is "import taxes"?

How did you ever think of that b^ll$41t?


Please, everyone. Any commercial structure is made to make money.

Including Eugene's. No matter how efficient it is. The thing is that a commercial structure will not ever do anything good to people (community) if it will not be able to make any cent of it. That's how capitalism works.

The situation gets critical when a company's CEO is not capable of making long-term strategies, which is our case.

Eugene Gorbunoff:
To Boris (dbanet): you are the only person here who uses all this words (!@#$, b^ll$h1t, ..).

Martin said: "We are merry and fun community of users".

dbanet:

--- Quote from: Eugene Gorbunoff on August 29, 2014, 11:34:58 pm ---
To Boris (dbanet): you are the only person here who uses all this words (!@#$, b^ll$h1t, ..).

Martin said: "We are merry and fun community of users".

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Usage of obscene language is not the main thing people take into consideration while assessing other people, Eugene.

Martin Iturbide:
Eugene please tell me:
Is your company giving you money? Can you post your company revenue results of the last year? Is you company sustainable? Is the shareware businss model working for you on eComStation?

Ian B Manners:
Hi Boris,


--- Quote ---Usage of obscene language is not the main thing people take into consideration while assessing other people, Eugene.
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True but I reserve that language for American Abuse desks who keep telling me to simply unsubscribe from spam.
oh, and for Disney Studio who provide a digital download edition of Marvel titles that require Flash and a special app for Windows, Mac, or Android only but they forget to tell you than when you buy the BR disk.

Could you edit your posts above and change the wording thanks, that way we keep it 'civil' :)

Added ==>  so that os2world.com isn't classified as an adult forum.

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