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Olafur Gunnlaugsson:
Just a heads up for those in the UK that still use Scitech SNAP,

A gent on Ebay has new stocks of the 256MB dual screen DELL X600's that he is selling for about 13 smackers inc. postage and both types of adapter cables

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATI-Radeon-X600-256Mb-PCIe-F9595-/290592069592?pt=UK_Computing_Computer_Components_Graphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item43a8a317d8

the X600 is one of the few chipsets were SNAP supports both DVI and VGA connectors and in addition is fully accelerated.

Important to get the 256Mb version since there were gazillion different versions of the X300/X550/X600 that are all more or less the same chip with some features enabled so on so forth, only the 256 X600 are guaranteed to have full bandwidth, the 128 versions of this Dell card for instance were much slower.

ivan:
Good find, but I do have to ask who doesn't use SNAP?

We have a range of ATI X550, X600 and X700 cards as well as a couple of NVIDIA FX5700 all quite happy to drive monitors to 1920 x 1200 @ 16m colours.

Olafur Gunnlaugsson:

--- Quote from: ivan on November 23, 2014, 04:58:13 pm ---Good find, but I do have to ask who doesn't use SNAP?

We have a range of ATI X550, X600 and X700 cards as well as a couple of NVIDIA FX5700 all quite happy to drive monitors to 1920 x 1200 @ 16m colours.

--- End quote ---

I had problems with SNAP and some newer motherboards, and a few years back with some ATI motherboard chipsets as well, and I also have a Nvidia Quadro board that I love but for some reason SNAP sees it at install time and has it accelerated, but after two boots refuses to see it as anything but VESA. That sort of minor niggles, SMP issues and people that  multi boot with Win/Mac OX/Linux/BSD/Whatever and understandably want to use newer cards even if it means they are unaccelerated under eCS are the reason people are looking more at Panorama these days

I use SNAP, and an X600 256MB BTW, but I literally built the computer specifically to run eCS, emperoar and SNAP and I am not sure everyone is willing to go that far ......

Doug Bissett:

--- Quote --- I do have to ask who doesn't use SNAP?
--- End quote ---

Well, it depends on what the hardware is. On my old systems, where SNAP knows how to do acceleration, I use SNAP. On my newer systems, where SNAP can allow Doodle's Screen Saver to turn the screen off, I use SNAP. On other systems, (laptops), I use Panorama. Panorama seems to be a little faster than SNAP (in VESA mode), but it does not allow the DSS turn off (when it will work with SNAP). I also use VBox under windows, and the eCS guests use the modified GRADD driver (SNAP, or Panorama, simply adds overhead).

Apparently, SNAP is also not SMP friendly, although I can't say that I ever had a problem with it. I think that depends on exactly what the hardware is.

Daniel:
As the ATI Radeon X850 was the last card supported by SNAP, and X850 XL 16 lane PCIx cards were being sold for $10.40 new, I bought a pair. I haven't had any problems running with a quad core AMD and it IS fast, but the DOS and Win16 problems are a pain as I have to use several old CAD programs.

I know that the problem is with vsvga.sys not being updated and have tried all the possible workarounds to no avail. So...

What is the fastest PCIx card supported fully by SNAP and vsvga.sys?

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