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Messages - Dave Yeo

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The eCS system will work. You have to use the proper tools to set up the stick. On the ISO is the directory AOSBOOT containing aosboot.cmd, aosboot.text and the WORK directory. The version of AOSBOOT has to match your ISO.
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D:\AOSBOOT>aosboot.cmd

  usage: aosboot <drive:> <path to .ISO file>

  example: aosboot Q: C:\downloads\ArcaOS-5.1.iso

  This script creates a bootable USB drive you can use
  to install ArcaOS. It supports booting both BIOS and
  UEFI-based systems. Any USB drive >= 2gb can be used
  as-is.  If the disk has more than one partition, you
  can enter any of the drive letters assigned to it.

  Warning! This process will repartition the USB drive
           and will DESTROY all of its current content.

  Since copying files to flash drives can be very slow
  this process may take 10-30 minutes.

  For additional details, please read "aosboot.txt"

  AosBoot v2 (c)2017,2019 RL Walsh, (c)2017,2019 Arca Noae

I can't remember if eCS came with a easy way to mount the ISO, on AOS oo.exe will do it, oo path\to\ISO. eCS might have had it.

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I have the ArcaOS-5.1.1-en.iso file copied to the USB drive. I have tried connecting it to each and every USB port on the front and the back, powering off the computer and powering it back on and ... it never sees the USB drive OR it doesn't recognize the file as an ISO file therefore it is not trying to install the contents of the file. Anything else I might be doing wrong?

Sounds weird. Did you correctly set up the stick? OS/2 can't boot of an USB stick, it actually creates a ram disk, copies itself there and boots of the ram disk.
Your first partition on the stick should be similar to this,
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The volume label in drive I is EFIBOOT.
The Volume Serial Number is 1909:0E31.
Directory of I:\

12-28-25  4:45p        16,047      0 a---  config.sys
12-28-25  4:45p     4,592,762      0 a---  boot1.bin
12-28-25  4:45p    12,213,555      0 a---  boot2.bin
12-28-25  4:45p       402,117      0 a---  boot3.bin
 3-01-26  5:32p         <DIR>      0 ----  efi
        5 file(s)  17,224,481 bytes used
                     55,274,496 bytes free

The efi partition is important along with the boot directory under it and boot containing,
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8-28-25  9:58a       107,936      0 a---  bootx64.efi
12-28-25  4:45p       785,521      0 a---  os2ldr.bin
 9-01-24 12:18p            13      0 a---  os2ldr.cfg
 9-01-24 12:18p           831      0 a---  ANdb.cer
 9-01-24 12:18p         1,200      0 a---  ANdb.crt

Your system should try to boot bootx64.efi

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By the way, this message board takes two to three minutes to update for me. Is it only me or is there something going on?

Bot attacks and attempts to stop them. It's a crappy situation, the site used to work much better. Martin is working on it.

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I downloaded the BIOS documentation. Go to the Advanced Menu-->Boot Options. Make sure fast boot is turned off and USB Storage boot is turned on and it should be able to boot an USB stick. It is possible the Boot Order menu will only show USB if a USB device is plugged in.
So you have to get your AOS USB boot stick built and then try again. Might work.
I also don't see any sign of a CSM so you will have to do an UEFI install.

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Internet / Re: Dooble releases-Qt6
« on: March 08, 2026, 06:31:54 pm »
Actually the problem is the directory separator after the drive letter. set DOOBLE_HOME=h:/tmp\.dooble\ works fine along with various similar settings, while set DOOBLE_HOME=h:\tmp\.dooble\  fails. This affects both Qt5 and Qt6 versions.
Edit: Missed your last edit :)

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Seems I read somewhere that HP computers aren't recommended for AOS, something about crappy BIOS. Might be mis-remembering.
As David said, the problem might be able to be fixed in the BIOS. If eCS boots on DVD, I'd think that AOS would too. I haven't burned an AOS DVD since USB sticks started working so not sure how they work given that they can install to BIOS or UEFI. The USB sticks have 2 partitions, UEFI and BIOS installs and which gets started depends on the BIOS settings. Something like legacy or/and CSM for BIOS and UEFI for UEFI. Perhaps in the boot order page in your BIOS. Don't forget to turn secure boot off.

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Internet / Re: Dooble releases-Qt6
« on: March 08, 2026, 01:21:15 am »
Hi David, just updated sqlite and tested Dooble-Qt6. Updated a setting, closed and reopened and updated setting was still updated.
What version of plugins\sqldrivers\qsqlite are you using. Mine is 386200 bytes and dated 04/05/25 (Apr 4). I'm also using a slightly newer Dooble, ftp://dry@ftp.os2voice.org/tmp/dooble-Qt6-2026-02-09.zip where I fixed the tab widgets. Also using WAL on my Dooble profile, wal.sh,
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ls *.db | while read filename;
  do sqlite3 $filename 'PRAGMA journal_mode=WAL;';
done;
For unwal.sh, change the middle line to
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  do sqlite3 $filename 'PRAGMA journal_mode=delete;';
To downgrade sqlite,
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yum downgrade sqlite sqlite-libs
Edit: Forgot the time stamp,
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Directory of L:\qt6-6.2.x\plugins\sqldrivers

 5-13-25  7:56p         <DIR>    124 a---  .
 4-11-25  5:34p         <DIR>    124 ----  ..
 5-04-25 12:06a       386,200    124 a---  qsqlite.dll
        3 file(s)     386,200 bytes used

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I haven't seen anything about anyone running ArcaOS 5.1 virtually on a Mac but I will look for that or maybe someone is doing it with UNIX/Linux and maybe I can do it that way in the future. But I would MUCH rather work with people in any way that I can to help create a 64-bit version of OS/2 which can run everything the 32-bit version can run PLUS run native 64-bit OS/2 apps too. (The odds that Microsoft would agree to let us run 32-bit/64-bit Windows apps on OS/2 is close to negative one billion or lower but who knows, anything is possible.)

You can't run ArcaOS, or any X86 OS, virtually on a newer Mac, different CPU architecture and virtual means mostly using the hosts CPU. You have to emulate it and there are people running ArcaOS in Dosbox-X of all things. QEMU can also do the job. Someone did at point boot ArcaOS 5.1 on real hardware on an Intel Mac.
As for a 64 bit OS/2, the CPU architecture does not allow mixing 16 bit and 64 bit code, and our kernel is largely 16 bit along with things like device drivers at the low level and still some of the API.
So need a new kernel, device drivers, some API updated, even cmd.exe is 16 bit. And even then old 1.x software would not run, same with DOS and Win16. A huge job.

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Programming / Re: Dipping my toes into OS/2 programming!
« on: March 04, 2026, 04:57:19 am »

Doesn't OpenWatcom mean using some seriously ancient C/C++ language standards? Any idea why it's preferred over gcc?

While old, OW has things like a resource compiler and was more targeted to OS/2. It is also very stable. Documentation is better too. The toolkit also has a lot of documentation and OW can easily use the toolkit.
Though GCC can use some of the OW tools like the resource compiler and even often uses the same linker depending on flags.
OW also supports 16 bit programs, most important for device drivers.

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b) If you want to port things from the Linux word you can use "gcc" and some libraries like "Qt5" and SDL.

Nah, I want to learn to do it right!  :D

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c) Do you want to create a WPS application.... prepare to suffer  ;D ;D
Maybe you should start with PM first and later learn about WPS.
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So what's the actual difference here? My understanding was that WPS was just a shell on top of PM, like how in Windows, Explorer is a shell on top of GDI, but I'm getting the impression that's way off!

Well, while the WPS is just a shell on top of the PM, it is also fully object orientated, eg the Desktop is descended from the folder class, so is basically a folder. Also the media player in AOS (music mostly) is also based on the folder class, a folder with music widgets. You can also use most any language to write for the WPS, rather then being stuck with C++, through idl's and the SOM compiler.
Basically, Explorer is just a really bad copy of the WPS.

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Programming / Re: Dipping my toes into OS/2 programming!
« on: March 04, 2026, 04:34:25 am »
Is there an OpenSSL port with headers, etc?

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yum install openssl-develOr use ANPM to do the same.

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Applications / Re: ODIN Revisited
« on: March 03, 2026, 08:01:54 am »

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Internet / Re: Firefox and disk cache - not using it, but why?
« on: March 01, 2026, 11:08:26 pm »
Quite possible I broke something over the years with security fixes from tenfour, changes to compile under the newer GCC etc, as I never checked the cache. It does work to a degree, after shutting the browser down and restarting some pages load from cache, though not as many as do under newer SM on Linux. SM, FF and TB share the code.
I have no idea where the cache code resides and don't feel motivated to explore the issue as it is working well enough in this broadband era.

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Internet / Re: Firefox and disck cache - not using it, but why?
« on: March 01, 2026, 12:09:57 am »
I seem to have the same behaviour here. With SM as well. Wonder if one of updates broke something.
One thing I do is keep the cache on my ram disk so as not to wear my SSD. On Firefox need to add the string preference browser.cache.disk.parent_directory and point it to where you want.
I'll keep an eye on the cache

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Hardware / Re: Problem with Panorama resultion
« on: February 27, 2026, 04:11:43 am »
You might be out of luck. Panorama depends on the video bios and sometimes that video bios seems to initialize different ports differently.
Hopefully others have other ideas. I'd suggest a ticket but if you're running 5.06 you're likely out of support.

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Internet / Re: Mypal68: A possible alternative browser?
« on: February 26, 2026, 12:34:05 am »
It should compile to 32 bit, above the poster says he is using it on XP, which is generally 32 bit.
Problem is that it would need a lot of porting. As I mentioned, we have some of the needed stuff such as the widgets but there are classes that need porting and who knows what else. I don't have the skills to compile iceweasel, if someone else did, I could probably compile iceape and icedove. Just like with our Mozilla where once Firefox was done, I could do SM and TB, though they still have a few bugs such as oauth2 being broke.

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Here it varies. Yesterday the site just timed out. Today it is working well so far.

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