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Sigurd,

One more shot in the dark.  Try temporarily removing

E:\usr\local\lib;E:\usr\lib

where E:\ is your UNIXROOT
from your CONFIG.SYS before you run the install. 

I think I remember there is a conflict in one of the DLLs or executables in the unix stuff with something in the IBM networking stuff.  If that is the case this might explain why it worked before and this time, when you have the samba stuff already installed, it fails.

Checking my WSeB over AOS 5.1 install (which has Samba installed but it was installed after WSeB) I see that I have the USR\LIB and USR\LOCAL\LIB after all the networking stuff in LIBPATH.

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Programming / Re: VisualAge C++ 3.6.5 (+ Fix2) - WarpIn or RPM?
« on: October 25, 2024, 12:17:16 am »
Martin - Netscape and Feature install isn't THAT bad.  The only gotcha is you need to size the netscape window large enough to accommodate the install screen without resizing.  Size the netscape window to the size you need  - shut down netscape, then do the feature install stuff.  Otherwise the little icon at the bottom of the netscape screen that you click on to start the install can't be reached because there are not scroll bars.  If you can't see that icon/graphic at the bottom of the last screen - you haven't sized the window large enough.

And you probably want netscape anyway for the help system.  I know the help system runs with mozilla on Windows, but (according to my faulty memory) I don't think the help system runs with any later browsers on OS/2, so you need the legacy netscape anyway.  If anyone has gotten the help system to run with mozilla please correct me here.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is FixPak 5 for WSeB 4.52 available anywhere?
« on: October 20, 2024, 05:37:26 am »
RTAN - not sure if this fits your needs - but I am running the networking part of WSeB on top of AOS 5.1.  I think this might address fix pak issues - assuming those issues are related to the operating system rather than the networking/LAN server part.  Alex Taylor has an install program and instructions for how to do this.  You can do this with  the WSeB networking on eCS or any version of AOS .  After you install the operating system, without networking, Alex's program requires the WSeB CD and it installs the networking components from that CD.



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Setup & Installation / Re: Dynamic Icons help
« on: September 06, 2024, 08:08:45 pm »
Martin,

Thank you very much.  That's what I was looking for and missed.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Dynamic Icons help
« on: September 06, 2024, 05:28:37 pm »
Let me ask differently - or rather more specific questions:

On AOS web site for Dynamic Icons it says:

"Version 2.5.2 includes a new unified Icon page in the WPS Properties notebook with the ability to easily switch between and browse for either a traditional icon file or a PNG image. In addition, it is now possible to add one-line comments to the “bigicons.txt” icon list file (see the online help from any Icon page for more details)."

There is some mention of dynamic icon features when you click the HELP button on the Icon page of a Program Object properties notebook - under "Icon" Page: Current Icon.  But I did not see in that help anything about bigicons.txt. 

And the description for the Reset button doesn't match the what happens.  It says:

""Reset icon" will reset the object's icon to its default, which is determined by its class. The button is disabled if the object is already using the class default icon." 

I take that to mean that if you drag a Program object from the templates to the desktop, file in the path/file name of the application, change the icon in the Properties notebook, and then click on Reset on the Icon page the icon will revert the icon shown for the WPObject (or DTProgram object)  in the templates folder - which is not what happens.

And - while I can find a file BIGICONS.TXT in the C:\SYS\ICONS folder - I can't find any information about what it does.  I am sure that info is located somewhere I am I am just missing it.




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Setup & Installation / Dynamic Icons help
« on: September 06, 2024, 06:36:59 am »
Is there documentation somewhere for Dynamic icons - like how it works, what the Reset Icon button does and when it should be used, how to uninstall Dynamic Icons, etc.?

Thanks in advance

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Roderick,

I am guessing the issue is somewhere in APCI, and/or maybe usb in because I see the problem with both SNAP and Panorama.  I do have a ticket opened for this.  I can only imagine how difficult this will be to track down because I am guessing AOS will have to have copy of the actual machine having the problem to track it down.

I will say how amazed I am that ArcaNoae got AOS to run on UEFI machines, and that I can run 32 year old 16 bit software that is important to me on modern hardware - even if some of those programs have to be run in full screen.

Ivan - excellent suggestion - I also have multiple machines for compatibilty reasons - and that was the main reason for switching to thin-client type machines: much smaller size and much less power consumption.


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Andrew,

In my experience eCS, and earlier versions of AOS, run windows and dos applications better than 5.1 on some machines.  Depends on the machine.  I am running AOS v 5.1 on three different machines (Ryzen R5/MSI motherboard, Thinkpad T530 and HP EliteDesk 800 G4).  The Thinkpad runs Win-OS/2 and Dos programs perfectly on AOS v 5.1 but would not run Win-OS/2 with earlier version of AOS.  The EliteDesk runs Win-OS/2 but in full screen mode only.  The Ryzen appears to run all Win-OS/2 programs in full screen, but some programs will freeze the machine in seamless mode - QuattroPro for Windows being the worst.  I also have problems with ReportSmith - and sometimes FrameMaker v 5.1 will freeze after awhile in seamless.  But again they all appear to run fine in full screen - many programs run fine in seamless mode.

I think it is both hardware and software.  I had a couple of earlier AMD  (FX4350 socket AM3+/ASUS motherboard) machines, one with eCS installed and one with AOS 5.02 installed.  Windows and Dos programs ran fine in on both machines.  When I upgraded the AMD AOS from v 5.02 to v 5.06 I started to have problems with Win-OS/2.

To test the theory I did a fresh install of AOS v 5.02 on a new hard drive on the AMD machine and transferred it to the Ryzen machine. (AOS v 5.02 will not install in the Ryzen machine). To get it to work I had to switch to a serial mouse and PS/2 keyboard because USB would not work and the network card stopped working - but the problematic windows programs (like Quattro Pro for Windows) ran fine.  So I think it is both the version of AOS and the hardware it is running on.

To run Win-OS/2 programs on the Thinkpad (before AOS v 5.1 came out) I ran my windows programs in a WIndows XP virtual machine running in VBOX on AOS.  That worked pretty good for me - although there is a trick to getting vbox to start without a hitch.

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Applications / Re: Drive drop-down empty in Win-OS/2 apps
« on: August 29, 2024, 11:55:18 pm »
I THINK the issue is one of the Windows applications I installed copied a different version of COMMDLG.DLL to C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM.

Copying an original version fixed the problem.

You should be able to find the original version on the AOS/eCS/OS/2 install media.  Although my quick search did not find it - so I think it is bundled into a package.

I have attached COMMDLG.DLL - to save you from searching for the original.

Repeating Dave Yeo's excellent advice:  zip up the contents of c:\os2\mdos\winos2 and all subfolders before installing an Windows application.  Makes it easier to recover if something goes wrong.

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Programming / Re: Increasing MDOS Environment limit
« on: August 21, 2024, 04:07:10 am »
Lars - thanks for the DOS_SHELL setting.  It seems so obvious, after you pointed it out.

So the conclusion is:

1) According to multiple sources, the maximum length of a fully qualified path and file name, i.e.  path+file name+ extension, is 80 characters.

2) According to my testing, using the attached program, the maximum length of the PATH statement in AUTOEXEC.BAT  is 122 characters; 128 characters if you include the PATH= in the total.

3) It appears that the default max size of the environment is larger than 160 characters - but not much more.

4) it also appears there is a maximum for a single environmental variable of 128 characters, including the name and equal sign

5) You can change the max size of the environment with the DOS_SHELL setting. For example I specified a size of 4096 for testing, as shown below

C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM  C:\OS2\MDOS  /E:4096

It appears the system reads the AUTOEXEC.BAT file from top to bottom, placing items in the environment as it reads them, and truncates everything past the max limit.

Thanks everyone for your help.

The attached program runs in Win-OS/2 and lists the environment variables in a list box, displaying the contents of the selected variable on the screen.  It comes from Charles Petzold's Programming Windows 3.1 book

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Programming / Re: Increasing MDOS Environment limit
« on: August 17, 2024, 07:12:05 am »
Dave,

There is the /E:x  switch you can use with COMAND.COM for increasing the environment size upto 32768 when running the DOS command processor - and the lowest value you can set with /E:x is 160 - which is the DOS default.  I was just hoping there was some setting in the DOS properties that I was missing that would act like /E:x does for COMMAND.COM.  Plus it appears that COMMAND.COM only works for DOS sessions - my concern is for Win-OS/2 sessions.

The limit for PATH in DOS is 80 characters.  The default AUTOEXEC.BAT for AOS 5.1 has a path that is 75 characters. So there is no way to add an application to the PATH without taking something out of the default PATH - like for example C:\SYS\MDOS\BIN\

And when the PATH is at 80 characters that leaves just 80 characters for everything else in the environment.  So, for example, if you have a number of drives, unREMarking the SET DELDIR=  line will throw you over the 160 character limit.

I was just hoping I was missing something here, or there was some magic setting I was unaware of.

Thanks


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Programming / Increasing MDOS Environment limit
« on: August 17, 2024, 12:56:28 am »
I believe the maximum for all environment variables in DOS, and hence Win-OS/2, is 160 characters.

Is there some setting that I am missing to increase this limit in DOS and Win-OS/2 sessions?


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Applications / Re: VLC v 3.0.21 not starting
« on: August 05, 2024, 01:19:22 am »
I am using AOS 5.1,

I have 3.0.18 installed in e:\programs\vlc3018
and 3.0.21 installed in e:\programs\vlc2

To start 3.0.18 I use the cmd file
set beginlibpath=e:\Programs\vlc3018\usr\local\lib;e:\usr\local\lib;e:\usr\lib;
vlc.exe

and to (not) start 3.0.21 the cmd file
set beginlibpath=e:\Programs\vlc2\usr\local\lib;e:\usr\local\lib;e:\usr\lib;
vlc.exe

I really don't need the e:\usr\local\lib;e:\usr\lib;
that is at the end of the BEINGLIBPATHs, but it is there to be redundant


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Applications / Re: VLC v 3.0.21 not starting
« on: August 05, 2024, 12:46:47 am »
Further info:

As for the YUM problem

I tried
yum clean all
yum clean metadata
yum clean dbcache
and
yum makecache

which returned
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/@unixroot/var/cache/yum/netlabs-rel/959a5
065a99df5b5b4d7e8672bbf1b90a4c9135f653d52968d19b4ae0dba9085-primary.sqlite.bz2'

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Applications / Re: VLC v 3.0.21 not starting
« on: August 05, 2024, 12:36:26 am »
Thanks Dave,


popup log says


08-04-2024  16:33:18  SYS2070  PID 006c  TID 0001  Slot 00db
E:\PROGRAMS\VLC2\USR\LOCAL\BIN\VLC.EXE
A_MMS_PL->LIBCN0.2026
182
------------------------------------------------------------

08-04-2024  16:33:18  SYS2070  PID 006c  TID 0001  Slot 00db
E:\PROGRAMS\VLC2\USR\LOCAL\BIN\VLC.EXE
A_MMS_PL->LIBCN0.2026
182
------------------------------------------------------------

08-04-2024  16:33:19  SYS2070  PID 006e  TID 0001  Slot 00db
E:\PROGRAMS\VLC2\USR\LOCAL\BIN\VLC.EXE
A_MMS_PL->LIBCN0.2026
182
------------------------------------------------------------

08-04-2024  16:33:19  SYS2070  PID 006e  TID 0001  Slot 00db
E:\PROGRAMS\VLC2\USR\LOCAL\BIN\VLC.EXE
A_MMS_PL->LIBCN0.2026
182

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and when I try to run YUM or AOS package manager I get the message
database disk image is malformed

so I can't check any libraries.


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