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Applications / Re: [Looking] Info about MS LAN Manager
« Last post by Thomas M. on Today at 12:27:03 pm »
Here are some pictures of the mentioned Software package.
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I think he has had https://mantis.arcanoae.com/view.php?id=3798 open since the 27th with no one jumping in. Lewis is the T4x expert and likely been busy with the web site upgrade.
I think Doug is on the right track with not properly creating the stick. See what Dan says.
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Arca Noae provides good tech support. You could try that.

GParted is a mistake, but it should not stop the USB stick from booting. And you should be able to boot and zero out the disk to undo the damage from GParted.
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My T43 1871-W8M  works okay, but won't run the software that requires Pentium4 support.

I have seen the flashing cursor, on various machines. It usually means that the BIOS settings are not correct, or the media was not created correctly.

The first thing to do, is avoid using anything (GParted), other than OS/2 tools, to do anything with the disk drive. It ALWAYS ends up wrong (but that probably isn't causing the problem). You do need to get booted to OS/2 to use the tools.

So, some questions:

How did you create the USB stick? (you may want to try again, and carefully follow the instructions).

How did you create the DVD?
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ArcaOS-5.1.1-en.iso
24df5a033db55593efc72f1c1d8bfee3  ArcaOS-5.1.1-en.iso

I also tried the 5.1 boot thumb drive I used to install originally on a different thinkpad, and it failed in the same way.
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It's weird, the boot should go further. My T42 is a bitch to boot the USB but DVD boot has always simply worked.
Did you check the md5sum on your ISO, does sound like a corrupted ISO. Sometimes USB sticks have subtle errors, especially if old, but you're getting the same with the DVD boot.
You can always request a new ISO build from Arca Noae.
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I'm trying to upgrade myself to a T43 laptop with Arca.

I try to boot from ARCA511 USB stick. I get a White underline in the top right corner and things stop. (no other text).

I tried to boot off of a DVD that I made.
Same symptom, but I saw some harddrive activity on the HD status light.

What I have tried:

Boot live GParted - wiped the drive, only installed a MSDOS partition table.
Same Thing.
Boot live GParted - formatted the disk to JFS
Same Thing.

Reset BIO's to defaults, saved and rebooted.
Same thing.

Booted an MBR - Linux 18.04 stick.
Booted to installer fine.
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by JTA on July 09, 2025, 04:40:44 pm »
" Shame to see you go, but quite understandable as the OS/2 base continues to shrink. "

This comment got me thinking ... I'm not sure it's "shrinking", so much as folks just don't know to get OS/2 stuff done in modern times. Perhaps this is an issue with "getting the message out", to dev's, gamer's, end-user's, etc.

I can't think of any vehicle more important than:
- Warpstock ... this org seems "glacial" to me ... it still exists, but moves very slowly, so it seems to not get the word out to those who need it. You would want to go here, but there's nothing "there". This thread itself cries out for a "dev model" or template (or three), that anyone can d/l and run, and do productive things with. I suggest pre-built vm's ...
- user groups ... these do seem to have fallen by the wayside, and I don't know what to do. I tried joining a cali one, but that just dead-ended. So, user groups need to be rekindled, somehow ...
- Team OS/2 ... I've harped on this, and I'll gladly be one of the cheerleaders, but, somehow, we've all got to get together and decide how to push this forward.

I've done several threads on the above, but, in a forum, it's hard to evangelize and get action ... something else is needed.

In the meantime, AToF works, and would work well for dev's, gamer's, end-user's (working to complete my "Live-USB" concept (BTW, I need ArcaOS to work towards a "demo" mechanism, cause I'm stuck using "warp 3" demo as a placeholder VM (demo licensing issues for a LiveUSB))), and many other use cases. OS/2 is still very relevant ... it needs to be in front of everyone's face, so they stop bleating that it is dead (apparently, we all enjoy beating a supposedly dead horse).
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by JTA on July 09, 2025, 03:31:36 pm »
" Nobody is using OS/2 any longer. And this is really sad. But I have to accept that. "

We don't have actual numbers because no company releases them in an easily digestable form, easily found by all. I'd contend that there are still quite a large number out there based upon:
- ArcaNoae's info page:  arcanoae.com/faqwd/os2-still-used-today/
  (ask AN to release real numbers, which they should have)
- OS2World's "hit count" on many pages, showing 10's of 1000's of views
- popularity of archive.org content, and many other sites hosting such content
- gaming, dev, ...

For myself, it is super-easy to use OS/2 (Warp 4.52, ArcaOS) in virtualization, so I actually use it quite frequently, not having any of the problems that most have, trying to run natively on modern (or old) hardware ... for details, look at the virtualization sub-forum on this site:

  os2world.com/forum/index.php/topic,3501.0.html  (many AToF posts)

I only point this last part out, because, virtualization allows you to run a modern 64-bit os as a "service" for your dev machine or other functional use (the AToF scheme); the x64 service removes all OS/2 problems. On top of that, you can have multiple OS/2 vm's running (an Athena dev vm), each dedicated to your dev, testing or usage requirements. In particular, you can craft a specific DEV vm for os/2 (GCC, EMX, etc.) that is both easy to create (snapshots until it's perfect), or, you can have some of the dev experts create one for you (I respectfully suggest @Kyo, @Paul, many others), perhaps for money, to repay their time?

What has fallen by the wayside isn't OS/2 itself, it's the lost knowledge of how to tune it for modern times (in a vm). I routinely bring up a VM with os/2 2.11, or warp 3 or 4, or arcaos, and it is built as if the year was still 19xx (4.52 or earlier), or 2025 (AOS 5.x or later), and they work flawlessly, each running the software of it's time. Virtualization enables this ...

I'd suggest recreating your athena programming environment to reflect running OS/2 in the same way as when Athena did run (natively) in a reasonable fashion. Then, many can compare vm's to see if AOS can be improved to move Athena forward, or if it should remain available, but only on older OS/2 versions that continue to run perfectly fine in a VM.

Hope this helps ...
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by Dave Yeo on July 09, 2025, 01:11:51 am »
Thank you for all your kind help. Thank you, indeed. Especially you, Dave on your cool math OS/2 fix.

I just decided to remove all OS/2-related code from Agena. It took me lifetime weeks with all the weird OS/2 quarrels with no avail.

Nobody is using OS/2 any longer. And this is really sad. But I have to accept that.

Alex

Shame to see you go, but quite understandable as the OS/2 base continues to shrink.
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