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Setup & Installation / Re: WSeB Server parts on ARcaOS 5.1 with installed Samba - what to deinstall?

« on: October 25, 2024, 10:31:34 pm »

Hi Steven,

thank you very much for looking into this!

This is what POPUPLOG.OS2 shows:

10-25-2024  20:28:18  SYS3175  PID 0059  TID 0002  Slot 00a7
C:\IBMLAN\INSTALL\IBMLAN\INSTALL\LANINST.PGM
c0000005
0007abf7
P1=00000008  P2=00004f34  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX 
EAX=00000005  EBX=0000004e  ECX=0000000c  EDX=e3980000
ESI=00b90000  EDI=00370000 
DS=0000  DSACC=****  DSLIM=******** 
ES=05c7  ESACC=00f3  ESLIM=00003fff 
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=003f:0000abf7  CSACC=00fb  CSLIM=0000dd83
SS:ESP=05c7:00003732  SSACC=00f3  SSLIM=00003fff
EBP=00b9504f  FLG=00010212

LANINST.PGM 0006:0000abf7


Is it of any help?

Thanks again!!

EDIT;

Searching for SYS3175OS/2 leads me to this homepage:

https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/os2-warp-server-40-sys3175-installation-error-and-multiple-cd-rom-drives-servers

It refers to multiple CDROM Drives, if I understand correctly. But I do not have more than one, and this is usb.
I will try to disable USB CDROM Support and try it again.


EDIT II
Same error, no difference

Question are you installing under Virtualbox ? Or is this on bare metal ?

Roderick

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Hardware / Re: ASRock B550M-HDV

« on: October 22, 2024, 01:37:17 pm »

I just successfully installed Arca OS 5.1 on this motherboard with EFI enabled. It seems to install a little slower in this mode but it runs just as well when installed as my CSM computer. Now we have another alternative.

Run a sysbench
https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php?title=SysBench

The performance difference between CSM and UEFI mode should be just about 0.  UEFI code is mostly active when ArcaOS loads. Once the OS is loaded the impact of the UEFI loader is well under 1% is not lower.
GPT filter driver will have about a max 15% impact.

Measure it then you know what you are dealing with.

Roderick

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is FixPak 5 for WSeB 4.52 available anywhere?

« on: October 20, 2024, 10:36:37 pm »

RTAN - not sure if this fits your needs - but I am running the networking part of WSeB on top of AOS 5.1.  I think this might address fix pak issues - assuming those issues are related to the operating system rather than the networking/LAN server part.  Alex Taylor has an install program and instructions for how to do this.  You can do this with  the WSeB networking on eCS or any version of AOS .  After you install the operating system, without networking, Alex's program requires the WSeB CD and it installs the networking components from that CD.

https://articles.os2voice.org/category/software/15-lan-server-installation-utility.html

Roderick

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is FixPak 5 for WSeB 4.52 available anywhere?

« on: October 14, 2024, 12:56:20 am »

Thanks very much Martin.

I tried installing FixPak 3 (XR_E003) but when I ran Service.exe it told me that it found no products to service. I presume therefore that build 14.089 is equal to, or more recent than, FixPak 3.

If FixPak 5 ever turns up online anywhere I'll try again. I can't search Archive.org for the time being because it's offline due to a data breach and DDoS attack Honestly, who would do such a thing?!

Richard.

I think MCP fixpak packs where never official released to the public. You needed access to software choice. For OS/2 Warp 4 you also have fixpak 16 and 17.  Could only be officially downloaded from IBM SWC website.  So finding MCP 5 is likely to be very difficult.

Roderick

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General Discussion / Re: RPM to WarpIn

« on: October 12, 2024, 11:15:22 pm »

Martin,

I may be an old fogy but I don't see any real use for your "warpsnap" idea unless you have a very small screen (about the size 10 inch tablet).  My 30 inch (2560x1600) monitor has enough space without trying to be smart.

What I would like to see is the return of WARPIN as the main way of installing software rather than trying to use yum to convert OS/2 to Linux

Look Ivan, putting it dfiferently we will need to make choices in our community want t we want todo and what we can do. THis is not to be taken as an insult. But give me a bag of money and maybe I can find a way  to your dream true. BWW introduced this because years ago most support time was burned on DLL mitmatches.  Hence you still Dooble distributed as RPM. HOw this would be done in Warpin, no clue.

Roderick

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General Discussion / Re: RPM to WarpIn

« on: October 12, 2024, 11:56:09 am »

Martin,

I may be an old fogy but I don't see any real use for your "warpsnap" idea unless you have a very small screen (about the size 10 inch tablet).  My 30 inch (2560x1600) monitor has enough space without trying to be smart.

What I would like to see is the return of WARPIN as the main way of installing software rather than trying to use yum to convert OS/2 to Linux

Any volunteers to rewrite all the few hundred RPM spec files so it can be put in Warpin packages ? I hear the wind blowing in the forest....
Maybe it will happen in a next live...

Roderick

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Hardware / Re: Is this WiFi supported?

« on: October 01, 2024, 09:33:28 pm »

I have been looking around on Google to find a USB to serial adapter. Then with a high speed serial port.
http://www.tronicore.com/en/serial-wifi-adapter
This gets SOMEWHAT closer. But is also FAR from ideal. The baudrate is to low and you would need a serial to USB converter.
Now if I could find an all in one USB device, that would be handy.
Roderick

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Hardware / Re: Is this WiFi supported?

« on: October 01, 2024, 09:21:06 pm »

In 2 words, sadly game over. (well 3). Currently no USB wifi dongles are supported.

Roderick

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Internet / Re: otter-browser, Qt5 build

« on: September 17, 2024, 11:08:16 am »

Last time I checked Otter is not support with QT 6. Dmitry from BWW skipped Otter Browser as it was crashing because the multi process code is not stable. This is one the key reasons at the time the Otter Browser was not selected. It crashes more then Doobke.

Roderick

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Internet / Re: otter-browser, Qt5 build

« on: September 16, 2024, 01:30:27 pm »

One warning. The reason the Otter browser was never released is because it does not run in single process mode with QT. This can cause crashes of the browser!

Roderick

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General Discussion / Re: Re: Do we still need a 64-bit version of OS/2? And a possible roadmap provided ...

« on: September 02, 2024, 11:24:08 pm »

Andrew,

In my experience eCS, and earlier versions of AOS, run windows and dos applications better than 5.1 on some machines.  Depends on the machine.  I am running AOS v 5.1 on three different machines (Ryzen R5/MSI motherboard, Thinkpad T530 and HP EliteDesk 800 G4).  The Thinkpad runs Win-OS/2 and Dos programs perfectly on AOS v 5.1 but would not run Win-OS/2 with earlier version of AOS.  The EliteDesk runs Win-OS/2 but in full screen mode only.  The Ryzen appears to run all Win-OS/2 programs in full screen, but some programs will freeze the machine in seamless mode - QuattroPro for Windows being the worst.  I also have problems with ReportSmith - and sometimes FrameMaker v 5.1 will freeze after awhile in seamless.  But again they all appear to run fine in full screen - many programs run fine in seamless mode.

I think it is both hardware and software.  I had a couple of earlier AMD  (FX4350 socket AM3+/ASUS motherboard) machines, one with eCS installed and one with AOS 5.02 installed.  Windows and Dos programs ran fine in on both machines.  When I upgraded the AMD AOS from v 5.02 to v 5.06 I started to have problems with Win-OS/2.

To test the theory I did a fresh install of AOS v 5.02 on a new hard drive on the AMD machine and transferred it to the Ryzen machine. (AOS v 5.02 will not install in the Ryzen machine). To get it to work I had to switch to a serial mouse and PS/2 keyboard because USB would not work and the network card stopped working - but the problematic windows programs (like Quattro Pro for Windows) ran fine.  So I think it is both the version of AOS and the hardware it is running on.

To run Win-OS/2 programs on the Thinkpad (before AOS v 5.1 came out) I ran my windows programs in a WIndows XP virtual machine running in VBOX on AOS.  That worked pretty good for me - although there is a trick to getting vbox to start without a hitch.

"When I upgraded the AMD AOS from v 5.02 to v 5.06 I started to have problems with Win-OS/2." So did you open a ticket at Arca Noae for this ?

Having worked on all versions of eCS at Mensys the changes in regard to ArcaOS and eCS 1.2R and 2.x. is well close 0. To be specific this means the core code is the WIN/OS2 code, the VDD drivers and the kernel code for VDM support is mostly the same.  What can change the stuff is timing in code, if a bug exists is unknown. Until there is bug that Arca Noae so they can look at the issue.

Also for everybody reading this! With ArcaoS 5.1.0, if you run your system in UEFI mode a new video handler is used called VEFI.SYS that replaces VSVGA.SYS!
For WIN/OS2 this driver I understand does not do that much. But it can never be ruled out there are bugs in that driver.
However what I understand from the testing and what I picked up at Warpstock most of the code in VEFI.SYS is for the DOS sessions.

But as with any bug if it can be reproduced generate a testlog generic and open a ticket at Arca Noae on https://mantis.arcanoae.com.
I know from my Mensys days that debugging VDM stuff can be pretty complex. About 25% of the OS2 kernel its code is for the VDM support (DOS and Windows 3.1.).

Most of this DOS/VDM code has not been altered for decades. But again open a bug if you have time.
That might help to debug the stuff.

Roderick Klein

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General Discussion / Re: Re: Do we still need a 64-bit version of OS/2? And a possible roadmap provided ...

« on: September 02, 2024, 10:46:10 pm »

If one is considering multiboot solutions, then this could be a case where an AToF machine really shines for WordStar and other old non-OS/2 apps ... [...]

Thanks for the thoughts, though AToF is something I have yet to investigate.

The spate of bugs afflicting my DOS and Win-3.1, summarised earlier, started with AOS. The eCS-2 sessions worked beautifully, so maybe our SMOCs (Secret Masters Of Computing) tweaked something that needs to be un-tweaked. Or I could dig out a copy of eCS-2 (hmm, do I still have it?) and install that in its own disk partition, in the hope it can talk to modern-format files in the AOS-5.1 (&c) partitions -- or it can be HPFS-formatted and the AOS partitions could talk to it.

Sorry the conclusion that 3.1 and DOS is more stable under eCS we need waaay more data. Just be extremely careful with such conclusions!

First of all most all of the WIN/OS2 code in drivers in the config.sys and in the kernel is the same as in ArcaOS as in eCS.
This means the files in \MDOS\WINOS2. But also the VDD drivers. All of that code from MCP 2 fixpak 5 both OS'es are based on.

But it gets more complicated then that. When it comes to the base OS a LOT of code has been modified since eCS. This includes ACPI, Panorama, file system drivers such as JFS.
This can change timing in a way where something might have worked on an eCS system by accident.  Config.sys load orders can sometimes change things.
While this description is not 100% accurate I am just trying to point out there are waaay more moving parts to an OS then just some WIN/OS2 settings.

If you have an issue with a program you can reproduce on an ArcaOS 5.1.x system open a ticket at Arca Noae and see if they can look into this.
Always attach a testlog generic.

Roderick Klein

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Applications / Re: More WinOs/2 troubles

« on: August 05, 2024, 09:21:09 pm »

I learned back in my Win 3.1 days to make backups of win.ini, system.ini, config.sys and autoexec.bat files as Windows breaks so easily. Have you checked autoexec.bat? Mine,

Code: [Select]

@ECHO OFF
ECHO.
PROMPT $i$p$g
REM SET DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;F:\DELETE,512;G:\DELETE
,512;H:\DELETE,512;K:\DELETE,512;M:\DELETE,512;N:\DELETE,512;O:\DELETE,512;P:\DE
LETE,512;Q:\DELETE,512;R:\DELETE,512;S:\DELETE,512;T:\DELETE,512;W:\DELETE,512;X
:\DELETE,512;Y:\DELETE,512;Z:\DELETE,512;
SET WIN3DIR=W:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2
PATH=W:\OS2;W:\OS2\MDOS;W:\;W:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;W:\sys\MDOS\BIN;W:\TCPIP\DOS\BIN;
LOADHIGH APPEND W:\OS2;W:\OS2\SYSTEM
SET TMP=W:\var\temp
LOADHIGH W:\sys\MDOS\BIN\2GBFIX.COM >NUL
LOADHIGH DOSKEY FINDFILE=DIR /A /S /B $*
DOSKEY EDIT=QBASIC/EDITOR $*
SET DIRCMD=/A
SET TEMP=W:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\TEMP
SET ETC=W:\TCPIP\DOS\ETC

Adjust boot drive letter.

Today I would back up\os2\mdos before doing any test installs. A simple zip works.

Dave, thank you, you pointed me into the right direction. After commenting out the extra PATH statements, WinOS/2 started again. If you look at my autoexec, the programs installed their addition to the path as being in front of the other ones. I put all the additional path statements after the other ones, and it started again. So, some executable sharing its name with a WinOS/2 one, I suppose.

The only remaining problem now is that message (from Borland C++, see screenshot) even though the said line is in my system.ini...

That is digging deep in memory. I seem to recall WIN/OS2 can not load a .386 driver.
But I might be wrong.

Best regards,

Roderick Klein

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Applications / Re: More WinOs/2 troubles

« on: August 05, 2024, 10:13:56 am »

Hello all.. among the few other Win 3.1 programs I tried installing yesterday, to evaluate how competitive OS/2 could have been in the early 1990s for productivity apps, Mathematica (v2 I think), Matlab 4.2c, Fortran Powerstation 1, PharLap 6 (as the Matlab wanted these libraries). WinOS/2 restarted after Mathematica and Matlab installs.
Problem is: WinOS/2 does not start anymore. I removed in win.ini / system.ini the lines referring to Fortran (nothing related to PharLap in those) but still does not start.
I guess that one of those replaced more recent system libraries, but which ones ??
Any idea ?

On an DOS command prompt type winos2 /b /? (I forgot) or win /b. Windows can be started to created a bootlog and give you a hint what went wrong.

Roderick

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Hardware / Re: AMOUSE + Lotus 123

« on: August 03, 2024, 12:45:13 am »

Not that I am aware off...

I think a program should support a scroll wheel, but I do not this is something you can specifly switch on in the mouse setup.

Roderick