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Setup & Installation / Re: Re-organizaing OS/2-eCS Directories.
« on: August 27, 2014, 12:21:43 am »
I checked "OS2.INI -> PM_Workplace:Startup"... I didn't understand the stuff there, so I deleted the two values inside it. On the next boot the folders that auto opened where gone.
One entry should remain. It's that one from the current startup folder. If you use XWorkplace's startup folder(s), you don't need it, of course.

Some steps of my previous post explained (I use Initor):

1. OS2.INI -> PM_Workplace:Startup

-> This ini application has the key name 'C779' on my system. Its value is '59 00 00', which stands for  the letter 'Y', followed by 2 zero terminators.

-> You get the corresponding WPS handle of that startup folder if you prepend a 3 to the key name. That gives the hexadecimal WPS object handle '3C779'.

2. The next step is to open the properties of your current startup folder and to find the WPS handle there. (This works only if you have eWP or XWP installed.)

-> Open the properties dialog of it. Select the 'Icon' tab. Press the 'Details...' button.

-> In the tree under 'Details' you find the item 'Object handle'. It shows in my case '0x3C779'.

-> That is exactly the handle from the key name I got from OS2.INI -> PM_Workplace:Startup.

If you have more than one Startup folder entries, you should remove the wrong one(s) and keep the only correct one.

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Applications / Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 RC3
« on: August 23, 2014, 06:49:07 pm »
@ Andreas: make sure the Quickstart from version 3 is not loaded. That one tripped me up at first.
Thanks, I made that sure before by renaming the OpenOffice.org.3 dir when I booted to my service partition.

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Applications / Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 RC3
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:45:38 pm »
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yum install libc gcc-4.4.4 gcc-4.4.6 openssl curl libjpeg libxslt libicu zlib libxml2 stdcpp mmap pthread urpo gcc-stdc++-shared-library
Thanks Pete. After installing/updating some of these packages, the icuuc42 error msg is gone for me.

I had previously installed OOo 3.2. Unfortunately executing swriter.exe with cmd.exe from the 4.1.1rc3 program dir gives no error msg anymore, but two entries in popuplog.os2:

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08-23-2014  17:37:34  SYS3176  PID 0090  TID 0001  Slot 00b7
F:\APPS\OPENOFFICE4.1.1RC3\PROGRAM\SOFFICE.BIN
c000001c
14541fe8
EAX=00000001  EBX=003182a3  ECX=003182a0  EDX=00000000
ESI=003182a0  EDI=002d237c 
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff 
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff 
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:14541fe8  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0012fdb8  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=00cea38e  FLG=00010246

CPPU3.DLL 0001:00001fe8

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08-23-2014  17:37:34  SYS3175  PID 0090  TID 0001  Slot 00b7
F:\APPS\OPENOFFICE4.1.1RC3\PROGRAM\SOFFICE.BIN
c0000005
146ca218
P1=00000002  P2=00000004  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX 
EAX=00000000  EBX=1166f638  ECX=1486ec50  EDX=0012fe3c
ESI=0012fe3c  EDI=00000000 
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff 
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff 
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:146ca218  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0012fdd8  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=0012fe00  FLG=00010246

SAL3.DLL 0001:0002a218

Some more details:
  • PMDLL shows no missing DLLs.
  • I have .; as the first segment of the LIBPATH entry.
  • libstdc++6 and libsupc++6 were already installed.
  • Shared memory shouldn't be involved. I closed all Mozilla apps before.

Any ideas?

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Setup & Installation / Re: Re-organizaing OS/2-eCS Directories.
« on: August 17, 2014, 07:44:52 pm »
Assumed that you use the RESTARTOBJECTS entry as Boris wrote, you may have multiple startup folders defined.

See OS2.INI -> PM_Workplace:Startup. Prepend a 3 to the key name to get the hex. WPS handle of the startup folder. Compare that with Startup -> Properties -> Icon -> Details... -> Object handle.

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.1 yum update urlgrabber problem
« on: August 14, 2014, 07:47:01 pm »
Strange problems for an OS with case-insensitive file system.
FAT is a case-insensitive file system, but you can't install the .rpm packages on it. The OS works usually caseless. But e.g. Web servers and C compilers are case-sensitive. There exists no requirement that a subsystem must handle files caseless internally. Of course, if there's a user interface (like YUM), it should work like the base OS.

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Applications / Re: Surge protectors, was Re: mmioMP3.dll update
« on: August 03, 2014, 09:13:14 pm »
I gave up on UPS's, power failures are rare here now, and the UPS normally fry's itself before its really needed.
Here in northern Germany it's the same. The accus have to be replaced every five years to ensure reliable work. In most cases it's more expensive than buying a new UPS.

BTW: In professional usage the accus are replaced and the UPS provides seamless power without a switching pause which consumer parts don't supply.

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Applications / Re: Surge protectors, was Re: mmioMP3.dll update
« on: August 03, 2014, 09:04:41 pm »
I gave up on UPS's, power failures are rare here now, and the UPS normally fry's itself before its really needed.
Here in northern Germany it's the same. The accus have to be replaced every five years to ensure reliable work. In most cases it's more expensive than buying a new UPS.

BTW: In professional usage the accus are replaced and the UPS provides seamless power without a switching pause which consumer parts don't supply.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is eComStation DEAD?
« on: August 03, 2014, 08:11:09 pm »
OS/2 is more than the GUI
What OS/2 makes unique is:
  • You control the way the OS does things.
  • Configuration and processing works user-friendly.
  • That doesn't necessarily afford the (buggy, unsupported and closed-source) WPS. Any other system which provides most of it would theoretically match, while a replacement doesn't exist.
Most people tell that OS X is the modern OS that provides most of the needed features (and look and feel). Note that it's not any Linux distro which these people prefer.

BTW, about the car comparison: What is the gain of welding new Ferrari parts with ancient Volvo parts together, while the Volvo replacement parts are not available any more and the available parts are too rotten to be of any use? Wouldn't it be more useful to find a Volvo driver who wants to drive it until it breaks apart and save the money for the Ferrari parts?

(Car comparisons usually don't work.)

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Applications / Re: Surge protectors, was Re: mmioMP3.dll update
« on: August 03, 2014, 05:42:05 pm »
Surge suppressors do work, ONCE. The second shot does the damage (and that could be seconds, or months, after the first shot). It is often impossible to tell if a surge has damaged the suppressor, even if somebody does look at the indicator (if there is one).
You really need the three-level suppression I mentioned in my previous posting. You also need it for the UPS. (That doesn't mean that there exist many lucky people whose equipment survived a lightning without a damage.)

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The association of German electricians uses these terms (roughly translated): coarse, middle and fine protection. I would assign the protection of a special plug board to the "super fine protection" level.

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Applications / Re: Surge protectors, was Re: mmioMP3.dll update
« on: August 03, 2014, 04:36:05 pm »
Surge Suppressors are a complete waste of money.
In almost all cases. What helps is a three-level surge suppression, which includes the entire wiring of a building and also the metal parts on its roof. Using only the lowest level can't help.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Re-organizaing OS/2-eCS Directories.
« on: July 25, 2014, 07:48:48 pm »
Now, I tried PSFONTS.

To move the folder what I did was, I used the "System Setup-> Fonts" tool to first uninstall all the fonts from PSFONTS.
The complete filenames of all registered fonts are stored in OS2.INI -> PM_Fonts. It looks to me as if reregistering them is not required.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Re-organizaing OS/2-eCS Directories.
« on: July 24, 2014, 09:49:47 pm »
I need to understand more about INI editing. Which tools do you recommend for it ?
I use Initor: http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/editors/initor25.zip
FM/2's ini editor works well, too, but I find Initor more comfortable.

The only thing one has to configure together with DragText is to add initor.exe to the DragText exceptions and activate the checkboxes for both drag and drop for lists. That re-activates initor's popup menu.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Re-organizaing OS/2-eCS Directories.
« on: July 22, 2014, 11:28:03 pm »
Nope, no documentation...

That was the verdict at the time when we looked into this... And the question is if you want to break stuff yes or no...
Roderick, I understand completely your intention not to move OS/2 system dirs. But, from the current POV it might have been a good point of time to do so in the early days of eCS. That would have created a new standard, which would be fully accepted in this time.

Do you have similar thoughts (just out of curiosity)?

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is eComStation DEAD?
« on: July 02, 2014, 10:28:48 pm »
I think it would be an alternative to Windows
Man, you're 20 years late. ;-)

People, please either post stuff that adds info to a subject or create a new thread.

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General Discussion / Re: More on new OS/2 developments
« on: June 25, 2014, 08:17:40 pm »
> Do you have access to the eCS source files repository? Steven surely has.

There are more people besides Alex and Stev who has access to the repository.

I just download a complete one.

Hi Jacques,

I guess you mean the repository to build the DVD of. Note that there exists also another source repository, of which the other one contains just compiled files. Fortunately, the amount of that was shrinked by the active people, but it still exists.

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