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Polls / Re: eComStation Retail Store?
« on: August 07, 2014, 06:01:10 pm »
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especially the lack of a fully functional virtualbox in my opinion.

What is missing?
- working netbios support (list files in all directories not only in some)
- full network support (mulitcast, server support)
- running more than one instance
- USB

to name a few

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is eComStation DEAD?
« on: August 03, 2014, 10:37:30 pm »
I memory serves me well Ian you're the guy who even read Austrian newspaper. I've got the feeling we share some quirks...

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is eComStation DEAD?
« on: August 03, 2014, 08:26:25 pm »
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Wouldn't it be more useful to find a Volvo driver who wants to drive it until it breaks apart and save the money for the Ferrari parts?
That's the way I do it although I fear I can not save enough money for the Ferrari during the rest of my lifetime :) But honestly the Volvo (eCS) isn't that bad...

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(Car comparisons usually don't work.)
That's true as I can not see any OS which compares to the Ferrari.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Is eComStation DEAD?
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:54:56 pm »
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You can take a Ferrari's chassis, dash and seats, and stick them onto the innards of a Volvo... but what you end up with will not be a Ferrari. It might be a nice car, but neither Ferrari lovers nor Volvo lovers would likely be impressed.
I like this statement very much. :) Well done Alex.

Even if someone could find and pay the manpower to program a WPS like GUI on top of Linux nearly no one will use it. Cause even in 15 years it will be by far not as stable and bug free than all the other *nix frontends already available. Nor will it be able to transfer the look and feel of the *nix apps to OS/2.

I get the feeling most of the people here do not have any clue hwo the different parts of an OS works together to generate the typical 'feeling' of these system. It is a dream to only port some GUI on top of another kernel + drivers to continue working the way we did lets say the last 20 years.

If I ever came to the point where I've to use another base OS on my private systems the smallest part will be to learn to live with the different GUI. Users of other GUIs will ROFTL when knowing the restrictions and bugs of the WPS. Come on, we use OS/2 - eCS cause we are used to it as a whole. We like the stability (ahm, this is not true anymore, other systems are more stable now, only try to compile some stuff or heavy use the WPS or...), the lack of viruses, the antique look and feel, but mostly cause we are used to it and know every single config.sys line and os2.ini entry by heart. If you change the base there's only a small additional step to use another GUI.

Long term plan - IMHO Mensys (to be more specific Roderick cause who else has worked on eCS there?) did have sort of long term plan. But his plan was based on a little more realistic estimation of what can be done with the little to non existent developer and user base than on big dreams we read ever and ever again. If you ever have written some code or contributed to some open source project you would know who much effort it needs to only improve some small parts and bring it at least to a quality level users start to try it out and give feedback instead keep silent or even worse vague complaining about although they not even looked at the readmes. Moreover even if people work a long time on some stuff and get paid for it, there's no guarantee to get some useful output. Only think about the crappy ACPI before David took over.

What I want to say can be summed up as stop dreaming of 'warme Eislutscher' (maybe someone can translate this ;)) and get of the ground and support the few people who invest hours and hours of there private time and money to let you run your system on some new hardware still today. Even if it costs you a ridiculous amount of money like OpenOffice SS, Java/QT4 sponsoring units or Injoy/PMView/Mesa/.... license. If these few developers leave it's finally over. And trust me, if these few active developers decide rpm is a necessity today then start using it. Write articles how to use it for dummys or fill tickets instead endless discussing why you dislike this non native OS/2 way of doing things. Other options are to use some sort of rpm on *nix or get used to stupid WIn behavior not storing window size an position any more or....

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.1 yum update urlgrabber problem
« on: July 30, 2014, 09:43:31 pm »
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Got any other ideas?
Append your findings to the ticket. As the 2 other who run into this problem has solved it and Yuri changed the packet and thinks now he has solved the issue, he probably never look into it again if no one else reports the problem.

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Applications / Re: A-Oo 4
« on: July 28, 2014, 12:04:52 pm »
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This issue has been solved by a tool called highmem (a derivative of January June's above512 made by Paperino), and it is safe to use it since kernel version 14.106_SMP.

Tho not all DLLs can be marked as "loadable above 512", but the majority of them.
The issue is not 'solved' and never will be I fear. Loading dlls into highmem is a workaround for this shortcoming but no solution. I like the concept of shared dlls in contrary to 'every app loads a huge amount of code into memory which does nearly the same as other app does'. Moreover even highmem is limited to a few GBytes which isn't that much nowadays if you're forced to run multiple virtual machines as the main OS misses necessary pieces of software.

AOO410 with dlls in highmem runs flawless here. But load Seamonkey and OO310 which is necessary to open old .sdx files and you see nearly no low mem left till next reboot. 1152 currently here only after some minutes after booting and OO31 even closed.

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Applications / Re: A-Oo 4
« on: July 27, 2014, 12:38:07 pm »
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Yum/rpm sucks, belongs to a system with a very bad management in files and directories. We have a fine object oriented system, lets make use of it.
So start rewriting all these ported stuff to native OS/2 apps. Mozilla, OpenOffice, QPDFview, VLC, SMplayer to name only a few of them. Yoop I think you're dreaming of times where we could use OS/2 the way it was designed and neglect this times are over more than 15 years now. If you want use ported stuff you've to live with their annoyances to some extend.

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DLL's which belong to the program should be installed within the directory structure of that program ..... Only DLL's for general usage by every program should go there.
That's the usual approach for ported stuff too. But sometimes it's not easy to decide which dll will not be used by another program. Moreover often some dlls will be reused by another program afterwards what the initial developers could not foresee in the first place. Just to give some ideas that the whole dll issue is way more complicated as some people think off.

Additionally we do have this very bad shared mem problem on our platform. So we have to reuse (share) dlls as much as possible. Building matching dlls for each program and distribute it in the programs directory and let every program use the special version of the dll would work for other system where these shared mem problem do not exist. But unlikely not for us.

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Moreover, if I install it I know were what is put down, if YUM/RPM does it for you just say some prays.
If you're the one who do not forget anything you're the lucky one. But numerous complaints, tickets and threads prove that the majority of people do not remember that they f.i. installed gcc442.dll in some program directory years ago. They do not even fire up pmdll or similar tools to find out which dlls are necessary nor do the make a search with f.i. 'which -lasu xxxxdll' to find which dll will be used. They do not understand when which copy of a dll is loaded and unloaded nor the consequences of libpathstrict. They only complain that program x 'does not work' or 'does only work sometimes' or simply 'sucks'.

I've installed yum/rpm on my programs partition p: and 'SET UNIXROOT=P:'. So I've no problem with my system partitions. I can use my programs from different eCS partitions without problems with this setup. yum/rpm works for me most of the time flawless. There where some problems which where repaired after I opened a ticket at netlabs or discussed directly at irc channel. Like all our currents software yum/rpm lacks of development and test time AND users who are willing to work with it and give FEEDBACK and create tickets if necessary.

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Networking / Re: Injoy logging
« on: July 07, 2014, 09:39:12 pm »
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Do you have the rule in blacklst.cnf or firerule.cnf ?
It should be in blacklst.cnf as a deny rule.
I had it in 'User Rules..' and now changed it to 'Blacklist' as you suggested. Guess it will show up in 'Blacklist Log' window now. But probably only one line which will be okay for me. Now let's see how it works. Thanks for your assistant.

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Re the manuals, yes, I think I only read them once, then figured it out by trial and error. With a firewall, I think it is a big ask to write an indepth ...
Agree. But f.i. I searched for rule setting 'Passive' and did not even found that one although I think I read it somewhere long ago. 'Enable' and 'Disable' are clear but what means 'Passive'?

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Networking / Re: Injoy logging
« on: July 05, 2014, 04:25:29 pm »
You should not need the logging lines even in the negative.
I added it as I hoped the will prevent logging but they don't.

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What version of IJFW are you using ?
4.1 although the About window says 4.0. But think there's not much difference except one fix....

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You might also have to look into your default ruleset in your Security Level file, I normally just use the default logging rules, you might
have log everything on. (Firewall-Security Level- click on the Custom button,  then the 'System Rules' tab.
I've set Security Level 5 and as far as I remember not changed the System Rules. There's 'Log rejected packets' which is correct. But now I discovered 'Edit Rule File...' means edit 'last selected list box entry' rule file. Never seen that before. Maybe I can deselect logging for my special IP address. Have to play with it....

If there is a possibility to negate an IP address it would be easy. Means I like to set 'Any' but except 192.168.1.199

Unfortunately documentation is not very helpful. They say more detailed information is in 'Injoy Securitity Guide' but my version shows not much more than headers without much information. :-(

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Networking / Injoy logging
« on: July 04, 2014, 09:06:01 pm »
I've a user filter like this -
Code: [Select]
Deny_Pana_TV
Comment = "verhindere alles 192.168.1.199",
Source = "192.168.1.199",
Direction = Outgoing,
        Log-Severity = None,
Log-Control = Disabled
which blocks connections from this device to the internet. But now the Injoy GUI 'Dropped Packets' and 'Rejected Connections' windows are full of log messages from this client. Can I prevent logging output of this rule? 'Log-Control = Disabled' does not help.

I'm glad that Injoy drops packets from this client but as the window is full of these messages the important ones are hard to find now.

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Hardware / Re: Testing GenMAC with Unsupported drivers
« on: June 18, 2014, 03:53:50 pm »
Not sure if the wpa_supplicant can not connect or dhclient does not get an IP address. In addition to what I've written here http://www.os2world.com/forum/index.php/topic,412.msg3718.html#msg3718 the basic things to check are
1) does xwlan detect the device (settings page)
2) what version of wpa_supplicant xwlan uses (see WPA settings page, should be 2.0 written in blue color)
3) what version of dhclient xwlan finds on your system (TCP/IP settings page 2, dhclient3xx don't know exactly any more but when it's written in blue it should be okay)

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Hardware / Re: Testing GenMAC with Unsupported drivers
« on: June 18, 2014, 11:25:25 am »
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...but the Wireless LAN Monitor (V3.12b2) is giving me problems...
If you tell something about the problems maybe I can help ;)

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Storage / Re: SSD on IBM T23
« on: June 18, 2014, 10:01:14 am »
I've a PATA SSD instead the DVD-burner in my T42p in parallel to the normal harddisk. Maybe an option for you too.

I've played with CF-PATA adapters and motherboards with direct CF sockets. Speed was always not as fast as I hoped. So from my experience CF is not a good option.

Even the SSD in the DVD bay of T42p is slower than I expected - means faster than the standard harddisk but difference is not that much. Guess the internal transfer rate is much slower than what SSD would be capable to deliver.

HTH

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Networking / Re: Intel 2915 abg Wireless and WPA2 with Genmac
« on: June 16, 2014, 08:58:01 pm »
Just found this in the change history for v3.11 -
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fixed error in GenMac module preventing from using WPA encryption with certain drivers

No clue which drivers and if is of any help for you.

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Networking / Re: Intel 2915 abg Wireless and WPA2 with Genmac
« on: June 16, 2014, 11:53:41 am »
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...are there any log-files, output-files etc that would help to gather information....

1. Personally I use this http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/ticket/17#comment:2 Rexx script which constantly monitors my LAN connections. I've this cli window open all the time when testing switching between wired and wireless LAN

2. XWLAN (both versions, widget and wlanstat) do have the menu option to display output from wpa_supplicant. So you see what the supplicant does. There are different verbosity options too.

3. If you activate the setting to get IP addresses automatically XWLAN3.12beta fires up dhclient in a hidden window. It's easily found in the xwp Tasklist and there you see dhclient log. But you can configure XWLAN to redirect the dhclient output to a log file too. In this case no window will be created but the log file written. Configuration for this is in XWLAN TCP/IP settings dialog.

Worth to mention - if you switch between wired and wireless interface XWLAN will let the wired connection up and running until the wireless is established.

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