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Virtualization / English, Spain, French... Subtitles available

« Last post by Sigurd Fastenrath on December 06, 2024, 06:54:29 pm »

From now on, English Subtitles are available, so does Spain and French.

To be adjusted via the Video Settings, switch on Subtitles and open the settings Button.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by JTA on December 06, 2024, 03:21:07 pm »

Winflector, while a paid application, has something of immense value to us all ... they offer a free 1-user server license, and the clients are free. No time limits ...

Thus, on my AToF solution (everything running on one desktop/laptop), you are delivering 64-bit apps to your OS/2 vm, all for free. Or, you can put the server somewhere else on your home network, and deliver 64-bit apps to your dedicated OS/2 machine. That's a lot of value for the OS/2 community, which I suspect is much bigger than a few users ...

Commercially, we all guesstimate that this user pool is quite large, from hints dropped, and focus of ArcaNoae ... I'm beating the drum as loudly as I can, at the past two Warpstocks and elsewhere, and at last Warpstock, AN did mention that they should look further into Winflector. If ArcaNoae talks to Winflector, there could be lots of symmetry in that relationship ... plus, AN has the true numbers for OS/2, commercial and non-commercial.

This would really help the community out, while we try to get more open-source apps converted to native.

Imagine a new OS/2 developer sitting at a laptop (running in AToF fashion) & pounding out code ... developing on an ArcaOS desktop that runs any 64-bit (or other) app he or she would ever need, via Winflector.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Dave Yeo on December 06, 2024, 08:33:52 am »

What about mesaGL? I don't remember its current status. A slow renderer would still be better than no renderer at all...
Mentore

I visited it, seven years back, and got it compiling and the examples ran good. [https://github.com/OS2World/LIB-GRAPHICS-WarpMesaGL.
Problem is that it is old. Gives gl.h while now it is gl2.h that is required.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Mentore on December 06, 2024, 08:06:24 am »

OK, it uses GTK. That would be a huge job to port, much like Qt. While nice to have, I can't imagine it being ported.
It can also run in a browser, so that might be a possibility, though even for that there's a good chance it needs something we don't have, webgl or node.js.

Might be possile to use odin to build GTK - but if it needs opengl, etc we're royally screwed. nodejs is working well enough to build chromium....

What about mesaGL? I don't remember its current status. A slow renderer would still be better than no renderer at all...
Mentore

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Paul Smedley on December 05, 2024, 10:30:36 pm »

OK, it uses GTK. That would be a huge job to port, much like Qt. While nice to have, I can't imagine it being ported.
It can also run in a browser, so that might be a possibility, though even for that there's a good chance it needs something we don't have, webgl or node.js.

Might be possile to use odin to build GTK - but if it needs opengl, etc we're royally screwed. nodejs is working well enough to build chromium....

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by ivan on December 05, 2024, 09:26:27 pm »

The big question is 'why would we need it?'  Until there is a reasonable answer to that question I see no point in considering it.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Ibrahim Hakeem on December 05, 2024, 09:25:35 pm »

OK, it uses GTK. That would be a huge job to port, much like Qt. While nice to have, I can't imagine it being ported.
It can also run in a browser, so that might be a possibility, though even for that there's a good chance it needs something we don't have, webgl or node.js.

My bad, Dave, I forgot about the strife we have with GTK. I take back most of what I said before 

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Dave Yeo on December 05, 2024, 08:31:43 pm »

OK, it uses GTK. That would be a huge job to port, much like Qt. While nice to have, I can't imagine it being ported.
It can also run in a browser, so that might be a possibility, though even for that there's a good chance it needs something we don't have, webgl or node.js.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Ibrahim Hakeem on December 05, 2024, 08:20:35 pm »

Looking at the system requirements, the oldest setup Winflector could theoretically run on is a Linux environment from the latter half of 2007.

I'm optimistic that this could potentially be an "easy-win" for us, but as Dave said: it comes down to asking them about the required work & weighing it against the task of porting to PM & WPS.

My biggest thought on this is in regards to the vast majority of developers for new OS/2 software, who are hobbyists undertaking open-source projects in their spare time. I'm suspecting that Winflector would hardly be interested in a licensing deal for a platform so small, meaning that a successful implementation of this idea would involve a lot of unpaid work for a paywalled closed-source application; something which most open-source hobbyists rightfully do not want to deal with regardless of what benefit it might lead to.

One of the only saving graces would be if it so happens there is an industrial use/interest in such a service - I suspect this is not the case as AN would've likely gotten on top of it quite some time ago.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 - ArcaOS Santa's List for 2025

« Last post by Dave Yeo on December 05, 2024, 08:01:15 pm »

Really depends on what framework they're using. Having to implement something to use the Presentation Manager and the WPS can be a huge job.
You could always reach out to them and find out what would be involved in a port.