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Messages - Tuure Linden

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Storage / Re: Near-constant data loss and corruption, system is unusable.
« on: September 01, 2019, 01:19:43 pm »
CPU overheating is a common problem with x220's. And that often explains very strange behaviour and hang ups. Have you checked your cpu temperature? The fan might be failing or the thermal grease might have dried up and doesn't function anymore.

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Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 30, 2019, 05:02:13 pm »
Mathias, actually I used Gentoo for a couple of years in the early 2000s. It broke easily and took forever to install larger applications because they were compiled from source. There were some binary packages available but at some point I abandonet Gentoo completely.

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Applications / Re: A comprehensive guide to Odin available?
« on: August 30, 2019, 10:49:12 am »
Using the switch -conf configfilelocation and creating a configuration file makes it possible to change the settings. However whole DOSBox seems to crash if Windows 95 is running more than 20 seconds or so. Maybe some tweaks with the conf file is still needed. I'll look into it. I'm using Windows 95 OSR2 version. Maybe the original version would work better, who knows.

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Applications / Re: ODIN Revisited
« on: August 30, 2019, 09:04:44 am »
I was wondering if it's possible to make SumatraPDF to work with ODIN. It complained about missing DLLs. I downloaded some versions of them from dll-files.com. There are no error messages anymore but the program still doesn't start. It may require specific versions of those DLLs (msvcrt.dll for example).

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Applications / Re: ODIN Revisited
« on: August 30, 2019, 07:45:53 am »
IrfanView really does seem to run great. I tested myself, too.

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Internet / Re: The new browser / QT5
« on: August 29, 2019, 09:02:58 pm »
And there's nothing wrong with the QT besides the short lifecyckle of major versions. It makes writing cross platform software very easy if I have understood right. I've never used the environment myself. What might be the reason why the make new versions so frequently, I have no idea... Back in the day I liked software made with QT3 and KDE 3 series Desktop was great in Linux. I absolutelu hated KDE4 and I don't like KDE5 so much neither. There is Trinity Desktop that is based on the latest KDE 3 release but it has compatibility issues with newer Linux distros and it seems that it's quite difficult to maintain QT3 software in the world of QT4 and 5.

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Good luck with the channel! ArcaOS videos really are welcome because there are only a few and only one good review (by Bryan Lunduke and that's done in a virtual machine). I even considered making a video myself but now it seems that I don't have to bother.

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Hardware / Re: Warpstock Europe
« on: August 29, 2019, 03:23:43 pm »
I'll have commend that Arca Noae is doing a fine job when we think of what huge amount work they have ahead... And remember that they have accomplished a lot in only a couple of years. They only had about 25 years old operating system without source code to work with. If I understand right, they've accomplished much more in about three years than eComstation did in over a decade.

Developing and selling OS/2 isn't a gold mine. Far from it. There are no statistics available of how many customers Arca Noae has but the number must be very small. And how many emplyees and developers they have? Compared to amount of work needed, too few for sure. I think we should be grateful that Arca Noae excists because eComstation seems to be dead. Or has someone here more inside info on the matter? We just need patience.

Arca Noae has also received lots of publicity even here in Finland. One can't say same about eComstation. Actually I thought that whole OS/2 had died long time ago until I heard of ArcaOS and bought a license in 2017.

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Internet / Re: The new browser / QT5
« on: August 29, 2019, 01:54:55 pm »
And portin RUST to OS/2 is absolutely impossible?

Personally I think it has been a bad idea to come up with such a programming language. Many legacy systems won't get Firefox releases anymore because of that... For example TenFourFox for PowerPC Macs is now doomed.

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Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 29, 2019, 05:45:11 am »
Personally I think that Windows 10 really has mixed everything up. They are getting rid of the tradiotional Control Panel and it's hard to find right places to change the system settings. They also have changed the terms used which makes it more difficult to find what you're looking for. Yes, it's a stable and usable system and can be tweaked to look better and there are even third party free tools like ClassicShell. It could be worse but I don't like the way they're going. In the lates major update they made some changes, however, that I like. And I use Windows 10 when needed and I don't absolutely hate it. It just could be much much better. I like using MacOs more than Windows and I also own several Macs.

At some point I wanted to try Windows Phone and bought a second-hand Nokia Lumia to run it for a couple of weeks. It wasn't bad. Android has had more confusing UI. I've also tried SailfishOS but now I have an iPhone 6s and Nokia 8 so I run boght iOs and Android. And off-topic: I personally thas hate everything Samsung does, I hate their customer service, the quality of their software and the crappy design of the products (I refuse to repair any Samsung electronics, I say to customer that I just won't touch them anymore, I've had enoght of them). And Samsung seems to hate me because it doesn't matter if it's a SSD drive or a DVD-player or a microwave oven: everything made by them always breaks if I happen to own it or get in touch with it. I have unwillingly had their product withing computers and for free from customers when selling new electronics to them. Some years ago I made a mistake and actually bought some products made by them, but I won't do that mistake again.

But anyway, I like to test things and back in the day even used BeOS for a while and have occasionally tested HaikuOS.

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Internet / Re: The new browser / QT5
« on: August 28, 2019, 09:14:55 pm »
QT seems to be a bit problematic because they release new major versions "all the time". In the Linux World the KDE desktop and other software follows QT. Usually when a new version of QT is available, the older one is abandoned soon. I'm just wondering how long time it takes that the "new" browser becomes obsolete and QT6 will have to be ported. And how much work that will be again... But there are now other alternatives than a QT based browser?

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Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 28, 2019, 08:51:17 pm »
And what would be OS/2 like today if IBM hadn't abandoned it? Would it be nothing like ArcaOS?

When compared to Windows, many things have changed.... and usually for worse. I stopped using Windows completely when XP came out. I just hated it. It was ugly and early version had some issues with my hardware. I used only Linux almost for 10 years. I don't remember when I stopped using OS/2 Warp 3 but it must have been about the time Windows 2000 came out. I once had even a triple boot system with OS/2 Warp 3, Redhat Linux 6.0 and Windows NT 4.0. Later it was only Windows and then only Linux.

Windows Vista and 7 completely messed up how network configuration is done... And what were they thinking when making Windows 8? Windows 10 is a completely mess. I've used it and have it installed on some computers but they have completely messed up system configuration and big changes are made in every release. The system is also spying on users and some very annoying software is installed by default (Candy Crush Saga and other crapware). They UI is ugly... but it's getting better. Actually I kinda liked Windows Vista's look, 7 was uglier.

With OS/2 there are many things that work and it's nice to have a system that hasn't changed that much. But because I haven't used it for over a decade many things have to be re-learned now when I'm using ArcaOS. With modern Linux distributions there's also this problem that everything changes too much. I liked the time when you needed to complie the kernel yourself and edit XF86Config, lilo.conf etc. It was logical and clear. Nowadays it's not anymore. But ArcaOS is almost same that OS/2 Warp over two decades ago. Ofcourse mixing it up with OSS and RPM etc makes thing a bit more confusing but as a long time Linux user I don't find that to be a problem. But what changed would IBM have done? Would "a modern OS/2" be something as terrible as Windows 10? At lest Windows 10 seems to be very stable compared to many former Windows versions (2003 server excluded, it must have been the most stable Windows ever).

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Applications / Re: ODIN Revisited
« on: August 28, 2019, 06:33:51 pm »
Have people completely abandoned ODIN development or is there still someone maintaining the project? WINE has gone a long way as well as ReactOS during last years. I am wondering if it would be possible to make ODIN also more up to date with current software.

But the problem must usually be too few developers for OS/2 in general. For example, the only FileZilla built I was able to find is at alpha stage and very unusable. And the OS/2 version of Gimp is a very ancient version with very limited functionality.

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Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 28, 2019, 06:30:05 pm »
When I installed Warp 3 for the first time the hardware was very modest.... A Nokia (yes, they made computers back then) 25MHz 386DX with 4MB of RAM. And yes, it really was SLOW. Later I used a Digital 33MHz 486SX with 8MB of RAM and it was much much faster. And finally 100MHz Pentium, there wasn't much performance difference compared to the 486 but the 386 with the minium RAM was almost unusable (but it wasn't fast better with Windows 95 either).

My friend bought a new IBM Aptiva 486 in late 1994 or early 1995 and I never understood why it came with PC-DOS and Windows 3,1 installed instead of OS/2. Why didn't IBM ship OS/2 with its own computer models?

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Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 28, 2019, 08:55:19 am »
I wasn't aware of Martin's channel but now I'm a subscriber. Other OS/2 related channels are WarpEvents, os2memories, OS2memories, Warpstock Europe and Sigurd Fastenrath. Are there still more channels I should be aware of?

When watching the Warp launch event from 1994 I just keep on wondering what went wrong. Here in Finland I remember when I saw a pc running Warp 3.0 next to another one running Windows 95 beta back in 1994 in a local computer store. If my memory serves me right, I got my own copy in 1996 when a friend of mine won one in a lottery and sold it to me. And after Warp 4.0 was introduced a lot of copies of Warp 3.0 sold on a large discount and later they were even given away for free. The situation might have been that there were a large amount of copies in Finland but the demand for them was quite modest. There were lots of things Warp 3.0 did better than Windows 95 and backwards compatibility with DOS and Windwos 3,1 shouldn't have been a problem either: some Windows 3,1 software that ran under OS/2 didn't run under Windows 95. Windows 95 was also more unstable. But OS/2 wasn't perfect either, it wasn't "as solid as a rock" and it was possible to hang up the system. Things got better with Warp 4.0... But still when using ArcaOS nowadays reboots are some times required when, for example, WinOS/2 session hangs completely and CAD popup doesn't always work.

Did IBM fail because of bad marketing? David Barnes did all that he could and was a good speaker in a front of audience but why wasn't it enough? But when I think back Microsoft was a market leader and usually won all its rivals. At my school we used WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS and later 6.0 for Windows but they ware replaced by Microsoft Word 6.0 for some reason unknown to me. Maybe Word had already become a market leader by then. It was also in around 1996. Linux was also far superior operating system compared to Windows 9X when it comes to stability but still Windows dominated the market. And the only reason for Linux to be a bit successful is it's being free and open-source. Might the open-source route have gained more popularity to OS/2 also? But like it has been said, making the os source available will never happen because of the licensing issues and IBM has no interest in spending more money and time to it.

It's quite amazing that loyal users have kept OS/2 alive and you can run it on "bare metal" even now in 2019. Many other old operating systems have disappeared completely into obsolescence. Many of them, however, have been released as open-source later like CP/M and others.

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