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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 30, 2014, 03:01:24 am »
Yes. Configure is supposed to set -Zhigh-mem everywhere but it wasn't working on SeaMonkey so I added it to LDFLAGS first which helped a lot, then realized that adding it to the optimize flags was an easier workaround. I then tested on 10esr doing the same thing and had a large improvement, especially with JavaScript. I assume that the stock build was not adding it everywhere it should and I was too lazy to look through all the makefiles to check where the problem was.
Note that from my limited testing FF17.0.5 seems to correctly set the high memory stuff.
As usual your mileage will vary but especially with SM2.7.x I saw a huge improvement.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 29, 2014, 08:22:03 pm »
You could open an issue at github and ask for them to do a new build with -Zhigh-mem added to the enable-optimize flags.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 29, 2014, 07:32:45 pm »
At this point the Bitwise build seems to work pretty good and much the same as my build and I don't think it would be a good idea to have 2 different versions of Firefox floating around. They're the ones who'll be fixing most bugs and I don't want to introduce any subtle problems that are caused by things like different build environments.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 29, 2014, 05:57:02 pm »
So where can I always get the latest build by Dave? Hobbes? Bitbucket (didn't find FF there)?

Dave has bulit SeaMonkey, Thunderbird and Lightning. He has uploaded it to ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/incoming/mozilla/.

Bitwise Works has built Firefox. For announcements see https://github.com/bitwiseworks/mozilla-os2/releases/.

Andreas

Can't see Lightning for Thunderbird 17.

Lightning will work for both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. I'll be rebuilding it soon as some of the icons need converting to OS/2 format.
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Also it seems that Dave also built Firefox, too, because he says that his build is more aggressive at using high memory (which I wanna try very much).

While I have Firefox 17.0.11 installed locally, I don't plan on sharing it and stepping on the toes of Bitwise as they're doing the development and people should be using their release for bug reporting purposes.
I'm not really a developer and for SM and TB all I really did was some build fixes and I was to lazy to find why my first builds crashed due to using up all the shared memory so I took a shortcut which seems to have helped more then expected.
If anyone experiences crashes etc with my builds, they should first test with the Bitwise build of FF and if it has the same problem, report to them.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 29, 2014, 06:16:48 am »
While on the subject, there is also a newer freetyp2.dll available at https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/mzfntcfgft/downloads/freetyp2_12-21-13%5B2.5.2%5D.zip. I'll be making 2.5.3 available as soon as I get around to it as well.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 29, 2014, 05:49:15 am »
Updated ZIP and WPI versions of the previous Mozilla programs have been uploaded to HOBBES.

These have a fix for the crash when printing without a printer installed and are more aggressive at using high memory. I find them having much improved memory handling on JavaScript heavy sites.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 28, 2014, 06:20:18 pm »
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Also I made a mistake when building SM and TB, namely disabling OOP (out of process plugins).

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Firefox already has the fix to disable OOP.

That doesn't seem to make much sense.

Is the build parameter intended to be switched of or on? Why?

Couldn't you please clarify the thing for me?

OOP is built but as it is buggy it is turned off with a preference. Easiest to add the preference to prefs.js (or the equivalent for SM and TB but as I posted, you can add it manually and toggle it if curious.
Between FF4 and FF10 we completely disabled it in the build process as it needed porting.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 28, 2014, 04:57:07 am »
Also I made a mistake when building SM and TB, namely disabling OOP (out of process plugins).
Anyone using these with Flash installed needs to add a config by using the about:config URL.

I thought bww bitwise works GmbH didn't actually make OOP working.
You've mentioned SM and TB, but does OOP work in Firefox?

There are bugs related to MMPM and I think I might have missed something else. I get 100% CPU with SM using up one core and plugin-container.exe using the other core.
You can test by going to about:config and changing the referenced preference to true and then visiting a site with Flash.
It's surprising how many sites use Flash.

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Internet / Re: Mozilla Warpin installers + applications
« on: March 27, 2014, 03:40:20 am »
Couple of points. Thunderbird 17.0.11 and SeaMonkey 2.14 are at basically the same level as Firefox 17.0.5ESR as they are all built on the Bitwiise port of Gecko 17 though SM and TB do have 5 releases of security fixes that FF doesn't.
Also I made a mistake when building SM and TB, namely disabling OOP (out of process plugins).
Anyone using these with Flash installed needs to add a config by using the about:config URL.
On SM, enter about:config in the URL bar, click yes to the warranty message to get to the config editor.
On TB,  Open Options-->Advanced-->General and click Config Editor to get there
Then right click on a blank area and choose New-->Boolean and enter "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npflos2.dll" without the quotes, then choose False.
I'll probably fix this this weekend.

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RoboSave is extensible by editing and adding to robosave.pro.  I had it even backing up my bookmarks and various other things. The problem with it is that it wants to restore to the same version of OS/2. Not sure how it would interpret eCS.

The same version (eCS 2.0, 2.1 ... etc) or the same install base ???

Same version and probably consider eCS 2.0 and 2.1 to be the same, it was written before eCS.

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You could try ROBOSAVE which is an IBM EWS program.  We use it as part of our backup strategy for when we replace a computer and reinstall OS/2. 

I don't know how it would work with eCS that appears to install differently to a standard WSeB install.  Plus we always install programs on a separate partition from the WSeB install to allow easy updates of the hardware.

RoboSave is extensible by editing and adding to robosave.pro.  I had it even backing up my bookmarks and various other things. The problem with it is that it wants to restore to the same version of OS/2. Not sure how it would interpret eCS.

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Hardware / Re: Two Sound Cards on OS/2-eCS
« on: March 04, 2014, 08:08:29 am »

I also want to test the test USBAudio drivers, that's why I try to figure it out how to mnage two chipsets on OS/2-eCS. But I still can not make the USB audio devices that I have to work yet.

Did you look at http://trac.netlabs.org/usb/ticket/75 and http://trac.netlabs.org/usb/ticket/76?

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Hardware / Re: Two Sound Cards on OS/2-eCS
« on: March 03, 2014, 09:49:32 pm »
I also at  one time had 2 sound cards, actually a Pro Audio Spectrum which included an original Sound Blaster clone. Like Ian, I had to be careful to set different IRQs and DMA for both cards, luckily set on the driver line in config.sys and the Dos utility for testing IRQs worked.
I don't remember ever doing anything for OS/2 to use the Pro Audio part, it just worked, or in case of a faulty 486 MB, crashed when using 16 bit DMA.
What I could do is set Winos2 to use the sound blaster part so OS/2 and Winos2 could both play sounds without conflict and under DOS most games could choose one or the other or in the case of Simcity 2000 one card playing midi and the other card doing all the other sounds.

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Hardware / Re: PCI Parallel Port card install -- need info
« on: February 12, 2014, 06:01:46 am »
You should download http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/misc/pci104vka.zip and perhaps http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/system/pcidevs_20131028.zip, install (just unzip into a directory and run pci.exe) to find out exactly what card you have and which irq etc it is using and post it as a first step.

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There's nothing bad in the error message; you can REM or remove the entire VAL statement in your CONFIG.SYS file

Okay. This is another "expected" error that needs to be documented. Whether 2048 is a good default, or not, remains to be seen. I know that it has generally been accepted that 1536 seems to be best, for most users, but other things may have changed that.


2048 will screw up with video cards with lots of memory and probably other hardware setups.

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