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Internet / Re: Mypal68: A possible alternative browser?
« on: March 15, 2026, 11:01:11 pm »
A native Winflector OS/2 client is the last piece of the AToF puzzle for me ... the HTML5 client (Firefox v45) gets me 95% of the way, and everything works. But ... the OS/2 native client would be the finishing touch!
Regarding the above. It would be nice if they were willing to bend but I think it's a dead end. We are just going to have to be happy with the html5 option. I've noticed from their forum that they are very firm when they don't want to do something.
Also consider that they don't even have a mac client..which has millions of users probably.
I ran a 9 line BBS (online service) in the 90s by an innovative company called PowerBBS. They had made the first graphical BBS that was like AOL and very cool but it also supported the dos like terminal services that 99% of people used at the time. Our big problem with them was that the support for "dos" bbs games didn't work very well. When I tried to talk to them about it they would just say "they are not going to reinvent the wheel" even though I was spending a ton of money with them and needed it to be competitive. Sometimes you just have to take a no as a no regardless if it shouldn't be a no.
Also, the goal I had presented them was at least 200 seats (which I calculated out of curiosity with my partner status) and that would have come to $8,398,00. So if that amount of money didn't motivate them then a free arcaos license means nothing to them. And I didn't even think the metric was actually achievable frankly. When I posted on this forum (the most rabid os/2 supporters) about selling one seat as a hosted solution I got crickets in response. I'm not upset by that.. you have to provide value regardless of if you think something is valuable. I sell on eBay and I could think my products are the greatest thing in the world but that doesn't mean anyone will buy it if they don't agree. It reminds me of an interview with Steve Jobs in which he said he had tons of products he loved but didn't motivate people. But when he saw the LaserWriter (mac lazer printer) he instantly knew millions of people would want it since it was one of the first that offered Adobe's PostScript fonts. He just knew everyone would love it.
The problem with os/2 is i'm not sure everyone really *loves* it.
A lot of os/2 clients are enterprise using legacy applications and they probably don't care about the internet. Only users like you and me care about that kind of thing. So even if ArcaOS has sold 20,000 seats it doesn't mean those users are motivated for a browser.
Regarding the above. It would be nice if they were willing to bend but I think it's a dead end. We are just going to have to be happy with the html5 option. I've noticed from their forum that they are very firm when they don't want to do something.
Also consider that they don't even have a mac client..which has millions of users probably.
I ran a 9 line BBS (online service) in the 90s by an innovative company called PowerBBS. They had made the first graphical BBS that was like AOL and very cool but it also supported the dos like terminal services that 99% of people used at the time. Our big problem with them was that the support for "dos" bbs games didn't work very well. When I tried to talk to them about it they would just say "they are not going to reinvent the wheel" even though I was spending a ton of money with them and needed it to be competitive. Sometimes you just have to take a no as a no regardless if it shouldn't be a no.
Also, the goal I had presented them was at least 200 seats (which I calculated out of curiosity with my partner status) and that would have come to $8,398,00. So if that amount of money didn't motivate them then a free arcaos license means nothing to them. And I didn't even think the metric was actually achievable frankly. When I posted on this forum (the most rabid os/2 supporters) about selling one seat as a hosted solution I got crickets in response. I'm not upset by that.. you have to provide value regardless of if you think something is valuable. I sell on eBay and I could think my products are the greatest thing in the world but that doesn't mean anyone will buy it if they don't agree. It reminds me of an interview with Steve Jobs in which he said he had tons of products he loved but didn't motivate people. But when he saw the LaserWriter (mac lazer printer) he instantly knew millions of people would want it since it was one of the first that offered Adobe's PostScript fonts. He just knew everyone would love it.
The problem with os/2 is i'm not sure everyone really *loves* it.
A lot of os/2 clients are enterprise using legacy applications and they probably don't care about the internet. Only users like you and me care about that kind of thing. So even if ArcaOS has sold 20,000 seats it doesn't mean those users are motivated for a browser.
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