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On the thought of "64-bit OS/2", mostly what we really want is utilize all of our physical RAM in a system to be able to run more applications. We don't particularly care about the virtual address space limit per process as much, although that could be a bit of a pain point for web browsers in the future.

The "easy way" of doing this (if there is such a thing) to me seems like if you could wedge a hypervisor under OS/2 (or inside of it as the case my be) so you could run multiple instances of it, as if it were on KVM of ESXi but have it be totally transparent (or mostly transparently) to the user so it is all managed by native ArcaOS / OS/2 tooling in the UI and it appears like you are running one OS (think of the way virtual DOS machines currently work in OS/2). And have some sort of driver infrastructure added in to the kernel such that IPC mechanisms from the different running instances could be bridged together so from an application perspective it seems like applications are running on the same instance, and inter process communication works as normal. Granted this may well be a difficult project. I can see proof of concepting it as running multiple instances of ArcaOS in VirtualBox on a Windows system with drivers added so IPC works between applications in the different instances.

I'm only vaguely aware of how process address space works in OS/2, most of my OS internals knowledge is from FreeBSD so I might be way off base in how practical this would be to do, but it does seem doable. The main goal here would be to do the minimum possible change required to the system itself and push all the complexity down to some lower layer. Xen or Bhyve or L4 could perhaps be repurposed to minimize the effort.

I know I'm far from the first person to come up with this idea, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried pursuing it.

My understanding of the way this works is that Microsoft is providing the patents to the Open Invention Network, such that Linux users using the driver in Linux would be allowed to use exFAT royalty free, and that would be legally enforceable such that Microsoft would not be able to take action against Linux users or companies developing Linux kernel code. I do not think that would apply to the same patents covering software deployed in a closed source, non-Linux operating system. Arca Noae would likely still need to get a patent license from Microsoft or a letter from Microsoft lawyers indicating that it is OK to port the open source driver in Linux to Arca OS and expect the same treatment from Microsoft under the OIN patent grant. (Which seems unlikely to me but not impossible).

Applications / Re: Firefox crashes on maps
« on: October 02, 2017, 07:11:40 pm »
I realized a bit after I uploaded it that it requires libcx 0.6 and Icu 56 from the netlabs experimental repo. That may be the problem.

Applications / Re: Firefox crashes on maps
« on: October 01, 2017, 09:46:46 pm »
I put a copy of a build of the latest Firefox 45.9.0 sources built with -Os up on Hobbes if anyone wants to try it. I make no guarantees except that on my system it runs.

I had an issue on an Optiplex 745 with ArcaOS not auto-detecting the broadcom adapter but working fine if I manually selected the device. I might suggest reinstalling ArcaOS from scratch and selecting the Broadcom 57 driver without installing the old ecs driver at all (there's a chance a file got overwritten with an incompatible version).

I think there is a bit of an impedance mismatch between all the various parties involved. We have Arca Noae selling commercially supported software, we have netlabs providing community supported ports and tools, we have ANPM, a free tool from Arca Noae.

I can understand both sides and certainly think there are way that ticket could have been handled with everyone being happy. There is certainly no excuse for rudeness but rudeness doesn't always translate equally in text. Sometimes if someone comes across as rude in a post its best to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Setup & Installation / Re: Removing ArcaOS installed cups packages?
« on: May 24, 2017, 10:21:51 am »
I don't have access to my ArcaOS box at the moment but I would check Warpin. There were a lot of packages that were in its index.

Applications / Re: Avoiding Windows 7's CHKDSK?
« on: May 03, 2017, 02:17:43 am »
Windows 7 and newer are supposed to not write cache removable drives by default allowing for "quick removal" but I have had the same thing happen to me multiple times even after deliberately un-mounting.

No corruption is ever found, same as you. I wonder if eCS is somehow marking FAT as dirty inadvertently.

Strictly speaking, I do not believe the Apache license used by Open Office 4.x requires bww to release any source code. The license is fairly permissive. Companies have made proprietary ports before. It would be nice if they released code, and it seems like they are working with the parent project on bug fixes but there is no requirement they release the OS/2 specific parts, at least that I'm aware of.

I have no problem paying 20 Euro for OpenOffice on OS/2, I'll pay 20 Euro and probably end up donating again in a few months. I'm extremely happy with the work being done.  I just wish the situation was a bit more clear. 

What email address did you contact them at? I donated in November but I have yet to get a response.

Setup & Installation / Re: Panorama video driver question
« on: August 04, 2016, 06:12:54 pm »
I googled around for probably two hours, kind of amazed I never found that quick start guide. I ended up putting an NVIDIA 7200GS in the machine and my problem solved itself. I might go back to the Intel graphics and try those suggestions.


Setup & Installation / Panorama video driver question
« on: August 04, 2016, 05:45:41 am »
Hello everyone

I have eCS 2.2 beta 2 running on a Dell Optiplex 760 using the onboard Intel graphics. I recently ponied up for my Arca Noae subscription and am very pleased so far but I have a small problem with the panorama driver. I can't run DOS or Win-OS/2 sessions in windows, only full screen. I get a "video mode not supported" error. I can run DOS sessions in windows using SNAP but I have a whole new world of issues then, probably because of SMP and ACPI.

Is this a hardware/VESA BIOS limitation or did I install something incorrectly?


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