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Title: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 23, 2015, 11:35:55 pm
About News:
http://www.os2world.com/past-news/79-general/20797-arca-noae-arca-noae-and-serenity-systems-international

Hi

I don't know exactly what does it mean but maybe it can be good news.

Serenity Systems International is the company that made the OEM agreement with IBM to resell OS/2 as OEM. But Mensys used to get all "Serenity Systems International" assets (or maybe not) some time ago, but since it was not a public agreement (SSI and Mensys) I can not say if it was sold, or just have permission to redistribute/built eCS, or anything at all.

So I will start with a basic: What does this means?
- Does it means Arca Noae can distribute/sell/build eComStation now?
- Did Serenity Systems company was sold his company twice ? - I wish I can do that :)   ...or it was not sold at the first place.
- So now Arca Noae has an agreement signed with Mensys/XEU? SSI has an agreement with Mensys, and SSI was bought by Arca Noae.
- Or is it eComStation out of the equation, since maybe only eCS was sold from SSI to Mensys?
- Or this does not apply to IBM's OEM agreement? or it applies?
- Or maybe Arca Noae just bought SVISTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVISTA) and can return from the dead? :P

I'm really confused with this things, and I have too many questions. But I hope this turns to be a good thing.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Andreas Schnellbacher on February 24, 2015, 12:01:04 am
Mensys had told that they took over the right from Serenity (or was it from IBM?) to sell OS/2. I always thought that Serenity was dead since then, but both companies made a mystery out of it.

My opinion about such an announcement about "the remaining assets" is that this contains too few info to be of any value for us users. This kind usually starts speculation.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Olafur Gunnlaugsson on February 24, 2015, 04:43:38 am
- Did Serenity Systems company was sold his company twice ? - I wish I can do that :)   ...or it was not sold at the first place.
Mensys never bought serenity and never claimed to, the company has always been owned by Bob and listed as such, that is a matter of public record and can be looked up on the net
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Sigurd Fastenrath on February 24, 2015, 10:35:23 am
Just speaking about the term "Asset":

There are (more) than two ways to take over a company.

But the two most important are named:

"Share Deal" - the new owner buys the whole "old" company, including assets and liabilities

"Asset Deal" - the new owner does "only" buy the assets of the "old" company, not the liabilies. The old company does exist still but is usually liquidated after a short period of time by the still (former) owner.

So I would guess that Arca Noae "just" bought the Assets of Serentiy, and as I guess as well that the most important assets are "Licences or Owner Rights".

This might lead to the conclusion that they also bought the "License contract with/from IBM" as this seems to me to be the only valuable Asset.

This might lead to the conclusion that they also bought the "Contract with Mensys" that Serenity had - in case there was some.

This might lead to the conclusion that they also bought the "brand" EcomStation.

This might lead to the question:

Will Arca Noae publish there own version of ecomstation (or whatever they will call it) or still let Mensys do it  - or does Mensys is the owner of the brand?

At least I would say it is very very good that things are getting concentrated in hands that proofed to be able to do the "right things"  :)
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Olafur Gunnlaugsson on February 24, 2015, 02:23:28 pm
Just speaking about the term "Asset":

There are (more) than two ways to take over a company.

But the two most important are named:

"Share Deal" - the new owner buys the whole "old" company, including assets and liabilities

"Asset Deal" - the new owner does "only" buy the assets of the "old" company, not the liabilies. The old company does exist still but is usually liquidated after a short period of time by the still (former) owner.

So I would guess that Arca Noae "just" bought the Assets of Serentiy, and as I guess as well that the most important assets are "Licences or Owner Rights".
http://www.serenity-systems.com/
Says "a Arca Noae company", that would mean bought the company, and since Serenity was an LLC not an incorporated company, there were no shares, meaning that buying the company is simpler than buying the assets, not the other way around, there is no need to liquidate an LLC, just de-register it.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Sigurd Fastenrath on February 24, 2015, 03:12:26 pm
http://www.serenity-systems.com/
Says "a Arca Noae company", that would mean bought the company, and since Serenity was an LLC not an incorporated company, there were no shares, meaning that buying the company is simpler than buying the assets, not the other way around, there is no need to liquidate an LLC, just de-register it.

In Germany, regardless if it is a partnership, incorporation or other form of company/society/assosiation/corporation, for all those the "parts" that owners own are named "shares".

Usually tax advisers advice people to make an asset deal (what is possible for all kind of corporations and so on) instead of buying "everything" because the new owner can select the things he really needs and avoid the liabilities or i.e. guaranty issues or employee contracts etc. etc. of the former owner.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: BigGoofyGuy on February 24, 2015, 04:39:40 pm
I think it is good news. IMO, there is hope for OS/2 - eCS.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Lewis Rosenthal on February 24, 2015, 05:29:07 pm
So much speculation...

Where to begin?

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- Does it means Arca Noae can distribute/sell/build eComStation now?

No.

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- Did Serenity Systems company was sold his company twice ? - I wish I can do that :)   ...or it was not sold at the first place.

Serenity Systems International was never "sold." The development & marketing of eCS was handed off to/taken over by Mensys in 2007/2008 (I'm not exactly clear on the date, but surely a quick read of this article (http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0708H/feature_6.html) should refresh everyone's recollections).

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- So now Arca Noae has an agreement signed with Mensys/XEU? SSI has an agreement with Mensys, and SSI was bought by Arca Noae.

This has nothing to do with Mensys, XEU, or any other entity.

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- Or is it eComStation out of the equation, since maybe only eCS was sold from SSI to Mensys?

This has nothing to do with eComStation (the product or brand name) directly. It does have to do with name recognition. People associate Serenity Systems with the refocus on OS/2 client development. That refocusing launched eComStation. Thus, people associate - to this day - Serenity Systems with eComStation, even though Serenity really had little or nothing to do with eComStation after 2007/2008.

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- Or this does not apply to IBM's OEM agreement? or it applies?

Whatever arrangement Serenity had with IBM was long over by the time Arca Noae entered the space. Arca Noae did not inherit, acquire, or otherwise happen upon an agreement with IBM as a result of this transaction.

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- Or maybe Arca Noae just bought SVISTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVISTA) and can return from the dead? :P

As we know, SVISTA was - and continues to be - a sore spot for many of us involved in things at the time. The Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVISTA) seems as complete a review as any (with references), to my recollection. Like eComStation and Serenity's license agreement with IBM, this product was long gone before Arca Noae was a figment in anyone's imagination.

Arca Noae's press release (https://www.arcanoae.com/arca-noae-and-serenity-systems-international/) was entirely accurate: Whatever remained of the essence of Serenity Systems International is now part of Arca Noae. We did not acquire whatever original (or remaining) business entity there may have been. We look forward to being associated with the name of a company which is still so fondly remembered in our community.

Arca Noae continues to provide value to existing users of the platform. To that end, we are pursuing a number of other relationships with other people and companies, some well known and others less so. For reasons which should be obvious to even the casual observer, we cannot disclose all of our business details to outside parties, but we are happy to share good news when it comes our way. We view bringing serenity-systems.com under our wing as very good news. Please read the Serenity Systems About page (http://www.serenity-systems.com/about.html).
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 24, 2015, 11:14:55 pm
Sorry Lewis, in that case I don't understand why did Arca acquired SSI.

If there is some other business strategy that you can not discuss in public, I will understand it.

Buying SSI only for its branding does not seems interesting to me (only if it was sold very cheap), but if its part of Arca strategy I can not disagree with that. But I think it is quite contradictory that if people associate Serenity Systems with the refocus on OS/2 client development, but buying SSI does not mean that Arca can not produce a new OS/2 client. 

I really hope there is a more deep reason or advantage why Arca bought Serenity that you can not comment because is part of a commercial strategy, instead that only for its branding.

Please remember that the main dissatisfaction on the current days is that the community does not have an idea what is going on with eComStation. There had not been a single formal word since Dec 2013 about XEU/Mensys merge, all the "rock star driver developers" are now in Arca, and Menso has new job posted at LinkedIn. 

I was told at Warpstock that a "Arca-Mensys/XEU" agreement was close (by Menso), but the reality seems that there are no results.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Lewis Rosenthal on February 25, 2015, 01:51:35 am
But I think it is quite contradictory that if people associate Serenity Systems with the refocus on OS/2 client development, but buying SSI does not mean that Arca can not produce a new OS/2 client. 
It's not contradictory. We provide value for people running OS/2. I'm not arguing that there is no value in a fresh shrink-wrapped product (new version), but OS/2 is a mature, stable platform. Have any of us seen real value in the accelerated release cycle of Firefox, for example (on any platform), just because the version numbers keep incrementing?

We believe that it is entirely possible to provide current functionality (read: latest code) without necessarily burning a new disc. This isn't at odds with SSI's philosophy. It goes along with it.

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I really hope there is a more deep reason or advantage why Arca bought Serenity that you can not comment because is part of a commercial strategy, instead that only for its branding.
Branding is a good thing, and useful to Arca Noae over the long term.

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Please remember that the main dissatisfaction on the current days is that the community does not have an idea what is going on with eComStation. There had not been a single formal word since Dec 2013 about XEU/Mensys merge, all the "rock star driver developers" are now in Arca, and Menso has new job posted at LinkedIn. 
As I've said before, several times over, eComStation is not our product. As such, it is not for us to comment on what the publisher of that operating system does. Arca Noae is dedicated to providing driver enhancements and applications which bring a better user experience to the platform (OS/2 and OS/2-based derivatives). This is true whether a customer comes to us running IBM OS/2 Warp 4 or eComStation 2.2b2.

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I was told at Warpstock that a "Arca-Mensys/XEU" agreement was close (by Menso), but the reality seems that there are no results.
Nobody from Arca Noae ever said that. I know that I didn't say that. We are still discussing options with XEU, that is true. Were we "close" at the time of Warpstock? Are we "close" now? I can't say for certain.

IMO, there is way too much emphasis being placed on a new packaged product. Attention should be paid to what might go into that product, and Arca Noae is essentially providing that content right now, in the form of updated drivers giving us the ability to run the operating system on modern hardware. Yes, installing fresh on a new machine is still a tedious process without a one-disc solution. We understand that. However, if you want a new version of eCS, you'll have to ask the people who publish it.  ;)
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Fahrvenugen on February 25, 2015, 02:57:07 am
Lewis,

I seem to recall that one of Serenity System's early products was a product that could easily push configurations and applications from a central server out to multiple workstations.  Unfortunately i can't recall the name of that product, but I do seem to recall it worked fairly well.  Any idea what happened to that software (and did you happen to get the rights to it as a part of this announcement)? 

Just curious.

Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 25, 2015, 03:33:29 am
Hi Fahrvenugen

Was it Serenity Systems Wise Manager?

It will be interesting of some software assets of Serenity can be set as "AS IS" freeware and/or open source, at least as a learning value from the source code of it, if there is not interest on continue the development of it.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 25, 2015, 04:22:37 am
.... if you want a new version of eCS, you'll have to ask the people who publish it.  ;)

Let's see if I can get an answer.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 25, 2015, 04:24:03 am
Hi Lewis.

I see some value in some old Serenity Systems article that are not longer available on the site.

Can I have your permission to republish the contents of this page on the OS2World Wiki under the Creative Commons Share Alike license?
https://web.archive.org/web/20041013102711/http://www.serenity-systems.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=11552&cgmenbr=9803

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Joseph M. Kempf on February 25, 2015, 04:31:13 am
Lewis,

I seem to recall that one of Serenity System's early products was a product that could easily push configurations and applications from a central server out to multiple workstations.  Unfortunately i can't recall the name of that product, but I do seem to recall it worked fairly well.  Any idea what happened to that software (and did you happen to get the rights to it as a part of this announcement)? 

Just curious.

I recall that too.  My memory is faulty here, but I seem to recall that Bob St. John and Kim Cheung were working with a concept of rippling a slimmed down workstation or smart terminal off of a mainframe or a server.  I doubt I understood the concept though.  Might Serenity Managed Client be the application you have in mind?   
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Olafur Gunnlaugsson on February 25, 2015, 08:45:42 am
Lewis,

I seem to recall that one of Serenity System's early products was a product that could easily push configurations and applications from a central server out to multiple workstations.  Unfortunately i can't recall the name of that product, but I do seem to recall it worked fairly well.  Any idea what happened to that software (and did you happen to get the rights to it as a part of this announcement)? 

Just curious.

I recall that too.  My memory is faulty here, but I seem to recall that Bob St. John and Kim Cheung were working with a concept of rippling a slimmed down workstation or smart terminal off of a mainframe or a server.  I doubt I understood the concept though.  Might Serenity Managed Client be the application you have in mind?
There were three separate products, one of whom may never have shipped
One was a automatic configuration software that shipped with eComstation preview and possibly 1 but later disappeared and was somewhat underwhelming in practice, the other was the Serenity Managed Client, that was a version of WarpSpace on Demand with the automatic configuration client on top and some other tools to make deployment and remote config easier, that pre-dates eComStation
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: ivan on February 25, 2015, 11:30:02 am
The one question that everyone has been skating round, 'where do we get new copies of OS/2 (eCS) from' has not been answered.

Arca Noae say they are concentrating on addons and enhancements to OS/2 and have implied that will not be selling the base operating system.  That is all very well but without the base operating system there is only a finite number of existing OS/2 users to purchase these new addons - a self defeating business plan.

Now, will someone please enlighten us as to where we are going to get new, as in new licence, versions of OS/2.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: guzzi on February 25, 2015, 12:15:56 pm
The one question that everyone has been skating round, 'where do we get new copies of OS/2 (eCS) from' has not been answered.

Arca Noae say they are concentrating on addons and enhancements to OS/2 and have implied that will not be selling the base operating system.  That is all very well but without the base operating system there is only a finite number of existing OS/2 users to purchase these new addons - a self defeating business plan.

Now, will someone please enlighten us as to where we are going to get new, as in new licence, versions of OS/2.

XEU and their resellers are the only ones who sell licences.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: ivan on February 25, 2015, 12:26:12 pm
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XEU and their resellers are the only ones who sell licences.

Strange that they are keeping very quiet about that.  I would have thought they would be shouting it to the rooftops.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Andi B. on February 25, 2015, 01:03:35 pm
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Strange that they are keeping very quiet about that.
Strange - not IMHO. I guess no one from XEU will ever read what we are talking about nor do they care. But of course everyone is free to ask them directly. If anyone gets a response let us know.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 25, 2015, 01:50:48 pm
Menso de Jong just replied me yesterday after I sent him an email:

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Martin,
we are still working on it. But, sorry, no confirmed date yet.
Regards, Menso
Mensys BV

So, it is good that he replies, but for the moment there are no fatcs, dates, or evidence of progress on a new releases of eCS.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: ivan on February 25, 2015, 03:19:51 pm
Andi B, it is strange because if they were interested in selling OS/2 (eCS) base operating system they would be telling all the OS/2 sites and the computing tech journals - they might even send out a press release but not a word from them.  It is as if they no longer exist except for a rather indifferent web page. 

edit:  I should add that the last time I went looking at what they offer under operating systems there was Mac OS and Linux but absolutely no mention of OS/2 or eCS.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: guzzi on February 25, 2015, 04:37:09 pm
Andi B, it is strange because if they were interested in selling OS/2 (eCS) base operating system they would be telling all the OS/2 sites and the computing tech journals - they might even send out a press release but not a word from them.  It is as if they no longer exist except for a rather indifferent web page. 

edit:  I should add that the last time I went looking at what they offer under operating systems there was Mac OS and Linux but absolutely no mention of OS/2 or eCS.

That's what I thought but instead of eCS being on xeu.com they have hidden it on shop.xeu.com. Maybe it's a new kind of inverse marketing strategy. Give your product the least possible amount of exposure and  support, offer subscriptions but don't deliver the promised product etc. etc.to kindle interest...
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Andi B. on February 25, 2015, 06:03:27 pm
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Andi B, it is strange because if they were interested in selling OS/2 (eCS) ...
You said it, IF they were....

In my perception they are not interested anymore. Of course if someone want to give them money they will take it with pleasure.

Martin, glad to hear you got a response. My emails to them are still unanswered since week :-( May I ask which email address you used? Neither Joachim nor info@mensys.nl answered to me.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 25, 2015, 06:43:20 pm
Hi Andi B.

Menso replied me from menso-at-mensys.nl. Joachim email (joachim-at-mensys.nl) seems to be working too, since I didn't get any error message when I sent the e-mail.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Lewis Rosenthal on February 25, 2015, 08:38:12 pm
Hi, all...

I seem to recall that one of Serenity System's early products was a product that could easily push configurations and applications from a central server out to multiple workstations.  Unfortunately i can't recall the name of that product, but I do seem to recall it worked fairly well.  Any idea what happened to that software (and did you happen to get the rights to it as a part of this announcement)? 

Wise Manager was the product I recall, and no, we did not get the rights to it (nor was it discussed). that said, Olafur seems to have a better recollection of the available offerings (but no, we neither asked for nor received any of these).

I see some value in some old Serenity Systems article that are not longer available on the site.

Can I have your permission to republish the contents of this page on the OS2World Wiki under the Creative Commons Share Alike license?
https://web.archive.org/web/20041013102711/http://www.serenity-systems.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=11552&cgmenbr=9803

I see no harm in republishing the content, Martin. It's in the wayback machine, anyway. Go for it. I wold suggest cleaning up the broken links, such as to serenityvirtual.c-m, which is now owned/parked by someone else (those pages are available in the wayback machine, too).

Cheers
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Daniel on February 26, 2015, 08:41:17 am
Ah, memories. I still have another five years or so before I use up all my long term capital losses. But I lucked out on some other investments so no worries. ;)
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 26, 2015, 01:06:23 pm
Thank you Lewis.

I'm consolidating and organizing the content from here: http://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Serenity_Systems_International (http://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Serenity_Systems_International)

Regards.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Fahrvenugen on February 27, 2015, 04:04:11 am


Wise Manager was the product I recall, and no, we did not get the rights to it (nor was it discussed). that said, Olafur seems to have a better recollection of the available offerings (but no, we neither asked for nor received any of these).

Yes Wise Manager is the product that I was thinking of.  Thanks to everyone for refreshing my memory.

Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: David Kiley on March 01, 2015, 01:20:13 am
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Thus, people associate - to this day - Serenity Systems with eComStation, even though Serenity really had little or nothing to do with eComStation after 2007/2008.

Considering the about us page for ecomstation still credits serenity systems:
http://www.ecomstation.com/about_us.phtml

And the "visit our website" still links to serenty and not mensys.. I can't see how I would have expected people to think otherwise :). That should probably be changed considering it's claiming your newly acquired company is still responsible for ECS.

Not to mention Serenty nor Mensys ever really shared much of their internal changes.



Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: David Kiley on March 01, 2015, 01:24:13 am
Hey Lewis-

I kind of like the name serenity systems better than Arca Noae personally.. Since you now apparently own the name have you considered actually switching to using it as your primary?

Just my 2cents.. maybe other people feel different about it including you :).
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Lewis Rosenthal on March 02, 2015, 06:31:33 am
Ah, memories. I still have another five years or so before I use up all my long term capital losses. But I lucked out on some other investments so no worries. ;)
Dan, your contribution to the overall project was (and is) greatly appreciated. Thanks so much for taking the risk. The Virtual deal was just an unholy mess, unfortunately.

Anyway, it would be good to get together at Warpstock for another meal. We haven't broken bread in several years.  :)
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Lewis Rosenthal on March 02, 2015, 06:39:19 am
Hey Lewis-

I kind of like the name serenity systems better than Arca Noae personally.. Since you now apparently own the name have you considered actually switching to using it as your primary?

Just my 2cents.. maybe other people feel different about it including you :).

Thanks for your thoughts on this, David.

Well, I didn't choose Arca Noae (though I must admit that it has grown on me to some extent). As for rolling back the clock and going to Serenity Systems, there is another Serenity Systems, you know (without the hyphen in the domain name). A quick whois search turns up:

Code: [Select]
Registrant Name: Mark Leary
Registrant Organization: Serenity Systems. Inc.
Registrant Street: 1776 Yorktown St.
Registrant Street: Suite 860
Registrant City: Houston
Registrant State/Province: Texas
Registrant Postal Code: 77056
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.7136477272

So, I don't think we'll want to go down that rabbit hole. At least with a name like Arca Noae, there isn't a great chance that someone else has anything similar... LOL
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: David Kiley on March 02, 2015, 07:10:47 am
As for rolling back the clock and going to Serenity Systems, there is another Serenity Systems, you know (without the hyphen in the domain name).

Ah.. didn't know there was any others. It looks they were acquired by another company - to take some staff & clients:
http://www.aldridge.com/blog/2012/06/28/the-aldridge-company-acquires-serenity-systems-inc/

So I don't think they intend to use the name anymore from the looks of it.
But, I can understand if you would rather avoid the whole possibility there.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Arca Noae and Serenity Systems International
Post by: Daniel on March 04, 2015, 01:46:49 am

Dan, your contribution to the overall project was (and is) greatly appreciated. Thanks so much for taking the risk. The Virtual deal was just an unholy mess, unfortunately.

Anyway, it would be good to get together at Warpstock for another meal. We haven't broken bread in several years.  :)

Lewis, That would be good. Warpstock or Warpstock Europe... I have scads of Lufthansa miles. Even Cologne, but I will have to improve my German.
 ;)