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Hardware / Re: Lenovo Thinkcentre M73p
« Last post by Paul Smedley on June 15, 2022, 11:51:08 am »
This arrived yesterday, and I installed ArcaOS 5.0.7 successfully on it today :) NIC and Sound were detected by the installer.
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Games / Re: DOS VDM - USB and Game port Gamepad support
« Last post by Wim Brul on June 15, 2022, 10:11:37 am »
Hi Martin and Mark,

I am a little bit disappointed. What you are doing is not the way to go. The "PlayStation 3 controller (USB Connected)" and the "Genius MaxFighter F-31U Vibration" are controllers not yet tested at all. Remember the method we used in the past. You need to follow the step by step approach as outlined in the "testing.txt" files that are part of the package. For the huskee device that procedure starts as follows:

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Installation Instructions - Part A
==================================

A1. Ensure that USBECD.SYS has been installed.

A2. Put the following line in your CONFIG.SYS file:
(Use the proper drive and directory for your system).

DEVICE=H:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:0C12:0005:0001 /N:$HUSKEE$ /V

A3. Reboot your system.

A4. Run OINPUT.CMD and watch gamepad events in hexadecimal format.
Use Ctrl+C to end this procedure.

Once this is working I would like you to do the following:
---------------------------------------------------------

A5. Run OINPUT.CMD > BUTTON.LOG and press available buttons
(one at a time, after each other, and tell me which ones)
Use Ctrl+C to end this procedure.

A6. Run OINPUT>CMD > STICK.LOG and press stick to different positions
(one at a time, after each other, and tell me what positions)
Use Ctrl+C to end this procedure.

Send me files BUTTON.LOG and STICK.LOG for me to inspect.
--------------------------------------------------------

Since you are preparing oinput.cmd yourself for these new devices, you have to prepare the corresponding testing.text accordingly. It is waste of time and effort to skip these steps.

I am currently investigating what needs to be done to provoke the "PlayStation 3 controller (USB Connected)" to send event records so step A4. can be completed succesfully.

I understand that for the "Genius MaxFighter F-31U Vibration" step A4. has been completed successfully. Why not append some of that output for me to inspect?

Best regards, Wim.
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Games / Re: DOS VDM - USB and Game port Gamepad support
« Last post by Mark Szkolnicki on June 15, 2022, 03:35:53 am »
Hi Martin!


Hi Mark

I tried xeventsF1d.cmd , I changed the NAME and HardwareID, but I get no output from it.
I tried back the xevents.cmd (RM203) and it keeps giving me some output.

Regards

Then I suspect, although the layouts of T.Flight and the MaxFighter are similar, your MaxFighter has more in common with the older joystick than the newer - input packet size perhaps? Looking at your lsusb hardware report and mine I see marked differences in the way each operates, although there are commonalities as well.

Did you modify the original xevents.cmd in RM203 from the original package (gamepad-20220317?)

If so, you might want to try this one attached - it is the latest one I'm using for the older Joystick - it contains some modifications from the original - I suspect it won't solve all your problems, but see if its any better than your first try.

Best!

M

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Games / Re: DOS VDM - USB and Game port Gamepad support
« Last post by Dave Yeo on June 15, 2022, 02:22:02 am »
Hi Mark, when I first started using OS/2, Warp v3, it was on a 4MB 386/33. At first just as a drop in replacement for DOS, then slowly migrating to OS/2 programs like WebExplorer. Had to be very careful in tuning and not use the WPS for it to be usable. That readme would have been very pertinent at the time. Even when I upgraded to 8MBs and swapped the CPU for a 486DLC.
Now here we are, so much memory that most is used as a ramdisk and still worried about the browser using all the memory :)
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Games / Re: DOS VDM - USB and Game port Gamepad support
« Last post by Dave Yeo on June 15, 2022, 02:14:15 am »
Hi Martin, my limited understanding is that the PlayStation (and XBox) controllers aren't actually joysticks, at least as far as the PC is concerned. They look like a joystick and act like a joystick but use a different driver. My son, who is currently using an XBox controller on his Windows PC agrees.
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Games / Re: DOS VDM - USB and Game port Gamepad support
« Last post by Martin Iturbide on June 15, 2022, 01:54:29 am »
Hi Martin!

Hi

It was time to also give a test drive to the "Genius MaxFighter F-31U Vibration" with ArcaOS.

I took the "RM203" files and copy it as "MAXFIG".
Added:
 
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DEVICE=X:\OS2\BOOT\USBECD.SYS /D:0458:3019:0100 /N:$MAXFIG$ /V
Changed the oinput and xevents and I got some output there.

But I overestimated the difference between a joystick and gamepad. It seems that the joystick has something different that is always "pressing". Even that I got different visual feedback when I press the buttons, I was not able to make Makman and Wolfstein 3D to work with the RM203 scripts, also the DOS game joytest utilities does not provide any movement.

I'm attaching the scripts and log just in case.

Regards


Did you try modifying the Xeventsf1d.cmd file that Wim created for me? (I've attached it again below but included it in a separate post to Dave Yeo previously)

I don't know which Xevents is present in the most current RM203 file, but the MaxFighter looks very similar to the T.Flight X in configuration, so the changes there may settle things down. The MaxFighter schematic seems very similar to the T.Flight, being kind of a cross between a joystick and a gamepad

Some of that may also be due to calibration - the Mk2 and T.Flight X have sometimes needed to be re calibrated when one or the other is used in a game.

Some Joysticks can also be really sensitive - the new T. Flight has a tension adjustment on the bottom which I have cranked up to max, as I'm used to the heavy springs on the Mk2.


Funny Note: I had to check the online dictionary to know what is a "Rudder" and I still does not know what does it do on a Joystick 


The T. Flight actually has a Throttle control on the base which is a slider.

The Mk II was actually part of a Flight Control System, which also included a separate plug-in throttle. The latest systems have a Joystick, separate Throttle, Foot peddles for rudder control, sometimes even what is called a "collective" lever for helicopter control (adjusts the rotors so the helicopter doesn't spin out of control - its also the way to control direction) - I know one fellow who even has a custom chair to surround himself with all the controls - WILD!

M

Hi Mark

I tried xeventsF1d.cmd , I changed the NAME and HardwareID, but I get no output from it.
I tried back the xevents.cmd (RM203) and it keeps giving me some output.

Regards
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Programming / Re: Newbie guide to porting software?
« Last post by Andreas Schnellbacher on June 14, 2022, 08:20:47 pm »
AH-HA! That's probably exactly the cause of my issue then. I wonder if netlabs would accept a 'build-essentials' RPM metapackage that would install all of the needed packages (gcc, etc).

I don't see why not, they might have some ideas about what it should contain.

netlabs.org consisists of the developers that use Adrian's facility to host projects. For to address someone, you should better address the maintainers of the netlabs.org .rpm repository. That's bww, not Adrian. (BTW: My project is on netlabs.org, too and I am not involved in any .rpm project, but I endorse that.)

In case of the .rpm files I have to say that bww uses the netlabs.org repository only for providing new packages. The sources, including bug tracker etc. were copied to GitHub long time ago.

I recommend the following: If you want to create a new SVN project with Trac, address Adrian. If you want to add something else or have the need of GitHub, contact Martin. If you want to have something added to the .rpm repository, contact bww.
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Games / Re: DOS VDM - USB and Game port Gamepad support
« Last post by Mark Szkolnicki on June 14, 2022, 06:19:45 pm »
Heh Dave


I'm sure memory is getting short, yep 94 MB shared low memory.


When I was trying to decrypt how to run Masterroids yesterday, I had to chuckle when I read the readme.1st file included, as follows:

--------------------

MASTERROIDS loads up to 3 MB data, so your computer should have a
    minimum of 8 MB RAM. (Sorry about that, but I had no chance to test the
    game on a computer with 4 MB. I don't even know, if 4 MB is enough for
    OS/2 itself. )

    You should have a 486 or better (66 MHz or more. 33 MHz is possible
    but slow. Sorry. )

    Cause the game puts your graphic-card to its limits (and the processor
    as well) it would be the best, you have no other programs running in the
    background.

________________

You could have run roughly 30 sessions of Masterroids, at the same time in the 94 Mb left!

And apologizing for the program taking up ALL CPU time and Graphics cards resources?

How our view of the tech world, and its challenges, has changed .....................

M
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Applications / Re: New builds of Thunderbird and SeaMonkey
« Last post by Mark Szkolnicki on June 14, 2022, 06:02:53 pm »

You are welcome to the rain, though it looks like it is leading to a state of emergency with the snow melt. Still grey, wet and cold here, just had to light a fire, which is almost never needed in June. At least the cold has slowed down the snowmelt here.
Good luck and hopefully no flooding


Not near me, Sir - although I live on Cooking Lake it is actually like a big slough - no inflow, no outflow, no riparian flow - all the years of drought have caused it to recede about 400 feet so we'd need metres of water coming down to m,ake a dent.

They also have the manholes in our hamlet about 2 feet above the ground, so pretty well just sewage flow - the water is still just being sucked into the soil, for which I am thankful.

As to fires - Anne and I enjoy a natural fire but because its not our primary source of heating - may have one in the fireplace today just for fun.  8)

Best!

M
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Applications / Re: New builds of Thunderbird and SeaMonkey
« Last post by Dave Yeo on June 14, 2022, 05:11:11 pm »
Heh Dave!


Yea, I'm 60 and finding it hard crawling under the truck, especially the getting up part :)


At least you still can get up ............. <grin>

And BTW thanks for the rain .......... had one hell of a thunderstorm last night to start (Thor was throwing around Mjolnir pretty liberally, battling Frost Giants and knocking out power everywhere).

Expecting 135 mm in the next 3 days so we'll be building an ark as well in Alberta, to join you guys in BC.

Best!

M

You are welcome to the rain, though it looks like it is leading to a state of emergency with the snow melt. Still grey, wet and cold here, just had to light a fire, which is almost never needed in June. At least the cold has slowed down the snowmelt here.
Good luck and hopefully no flooding
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