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Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: December 05, 2023, 04:38:02 pm »
I showed the ugly side of what can happen.  Here is what the good side looks like..

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: December 05, 2023, 05:52:15 am »
Attached is a pic of what happens to the desktop. I also attached the new bigicons.txt for you to see. I change the txt to log so it would be accepted.

The upload folder is full and will not allow me to upload the second half of the icons.  If I remember correctly, there is a total of areound 574 icons.

Rich, take the last llne in the  txt file and move it down by hitting the enter key, lets say 9 times, save, and see what happens.

Martin, do you have to do anything so I can finish the upload?

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: December 05, 2023, 02:09:15 am »
Dave, I will look at it later. This has been an adventure.  To me stupidly deleting over 100 of my icons to encountering a limit that had me all day looking for answers.  I found out that the bigicons.txt has a size limit before it destabilizes the entire wpshell.  More on that later.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: December 05, 2023, 12:38:58 am »
I tried to upload the new zip and it is too large to be accepted.  I don't think it is wise to split the zip into two parts.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: December 04, 2023, 04:14:39 am »
There is more to this.  i made a big goof.  I thought the BigIconsYellow had all the icons the bigicons directory had, but it did not.  It was missing quite a few of the icons which would account for my results. I realized this when I deleted the files in my bigicons directory and move all the files from bigiconsyellow directory over to it.  Needless to say, i am now at work trying to recover from this mess..  It looks like I will have to make some of the ionns I lost.  Right at the end, i quite backing up the icons i made thinking i would soon be uploading.  Now I will be delayed by a day or two while i try to recover from the mess i created for myself. Rearranging the bigicons.txt has helped speed up my recovery. It is way more easier to find everything.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: December 03, 2023, 04:53:35 pm »

I am just about ready to upload the latest.  I decided to do what you suggested in earlier post.

I made a new directory call BigIconsYellow, moved all the new files to it and then moved the directory to drive:\sys\icons.

I then change the lline in the config.sys to point to the new directory.


and rebooted.  Only a few of the icons changed to the new PNGs.  I rebooted several times with the same result. I then changed it back to the


and all the new icons changed over except for the few I listed in earlier post I had trouble with.  It appears the original path statement in the config.sys is needed for it to work when using a different directory other than BIGICONS   Now the weird part.  I previously has been using original bigicons folder name for all my previous testing.

Replaced the original icons in the bigicons folder and you can use the SET BIGICONSPATH=
Replace the BIGICONS folder with BIGICONSYELLOOW and you must use the original path statement  SET BIGICONS=

Progress report:
The new release contains many more new icons and folders.  Reworked some of the earlier folders,  More corrections in the bigicons.txt file.  Rearranged the text file.  At least now I can more easily find what I am looking for.  Most system icons and folders are now replaced.  You will be surprised by how many programs are now supported.

Applications / ArcaOS is the best multitasking system there is
« on: November 30, 2023, 06:01:59 am »
While developing and testing the BigIcons, I took advantage of the systems mutitasking environment.  I had XPager set up for 5  desktops or rooms or whatever you want to call them.  I had FM/2 opened in the first, the second desktop ready to use another instance of FM/2 or PMView when needed, PMView in the third, Small (a text editor I purchased over 20 years ago in the fourth, with the 5th used to open folders and properties to get and check info, along with restarting the desktop.

I discovered you can only restart the desktop approximately 10 times before XPager disappears and the system has to be rebooted.  I can't imagine trying to do what I did under Windows.  What I did in 2 weeks, it would have be months under Windows.  As it was, I worked around 10 hours or more each day to get it to the presently level.  The wife wasn't happy.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: November 29, 2023, 11:36:27 pm »
I just finished some DFSee icons.  Once I add these to the script and check for errors, I may upload.  Tons of corrections in the bigicons.txt.

This may be about 90% finished.  Need to arrange the bigicons.txt file better.  There are still some issues.  The arca command prompt shows for for some icons that don't a png icon.  The KLIBC icons will not update in the systems setup folder.  The bitmaps folder and one other have no asssigned id, so can't update.  Common unassigned folder and text continue to show the old ugly OS/2 icons.

Other than that, it is working well. Up to aroound 470 PNGs

Wait one more day and the new pngs and new txt will be uploaded.  I think Rich or someone smarter than me may have to correct what I can't.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: November 29, 2023, 04:13:40 pm »
Rich, is there a way in the bigicons.txt file to use one icon file for all icons to use that are not assigned an icon.

For unassigned txt files, is there a setting for the system to look at?

The same for URL text files.

For unassigned folders.

I noticed these keep the Original OS/2 icon.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: November 28, 2023, 04:25:15 am »
As you stated Rich, I needed to open the folder properties and reset each icon.  I guess this is due to the fact that I had individually install all the previous PNG folder icons.

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: November 27, 2023, 11:41:04 pm »
I then selected Use custom icons and and Dynamic setting it to 56, closed and rebooted.
Nothing changed. The text was still named bigicons.txt.

The filename must not be changed.

I was wonder if this feature was ever tested.

Yes, both at the time of its inclusion in AOS 5.0, and within the last week in response to your postings. WFM.

I replaced my copy of 'bigicons.txt' with yours, then restarted the WPS. Entries that you hadn't changed, such as folders, font palette, and color palette, all came up with the appropriate PNG icon.

It occurs to me that you had previously been replacing icons manually on an object-by-object basis. Doing so would override any changes you've made to the defaults. Have you tried pressing the "Reset icon" button that's displayed when 'png' is selected? Also, the "Browse" button should bring up a file selection dialog that points at the currently active 'bigicons' directory. Does it point at the correct directory?

If problems persist, perhaps you could post a representative sample of your icons (10-20) for objects I'm likely to have, such as stuff in System Setup. This would let me do more comprehensive testing.
Hi Rich
I have attached some of the icons including an update bigicons.txt which corrects a lot of the mistakes I made.  I have attached new startup folder icons, network icons. command prompt icons, drive icons, and others.  I also include some folders.  I have yet to get folder icons to update.

Also, a peek the new icons.  This is a work in progress..

Programming / Re: Bigicons
« on: November 27, 2023, 06:56:05 am »
OK, I tried it on a different partition and this time some of the icons were replaced, but not many.   There must be major problems with that other partition that will require me to reinstall when I have time.  It appears that a lot of program icons were replaced, but none of the folder icons.
Further examination reveals the pro.gram icons are changing except for the ones that are missing or named incorrectly.  Not one folder icon changed. There appears to be a problem with folders changing.

Programming / Bigicons
« on: November 27, 2023, 04:44:33 am »
I decided to do a test to see how well the new icons are looking.

I copied my new icons to drive:\sys\icons

The new folder name is DGYellowIcons

I changed the bigicons path in the config.sys file to

I opened the System Setup folder
Selected the WPShell icon

Selected the last tab for Icon Size

I then selected Use custom icons and and Dynamic setting it to 56, closed and rebooted.

Nothing changed.  The text was still named bigicons.txt.  I then changed it to dgyellowicons.txt, rebooted and still no change.  I was wonder if this feature was ever tested.  I also rename my dgyellowicons folder to bigicons to see if that helped which it did not.

Rich, any ideas?  There are now over 400 :png icons and with lots more to do.

Note:  There were some items in the txt file I had no clue what they were.  I used the ; to comment them out for now.

I have attached the txt to see if it is the problem.

I noticed all the icons listed are not in the bigicons folder.

That figures - it was always a mess. (Don't blame me :) I worked on the code, someone else handled the icons). I see it has been cleaned up a bit but still needs work.

Basically, don't worry about what's in the BIGICONS folder or in 'bigicons.txt'. Consider it a blank slate you can use to do whatever you want. Make a copy then delete stuff you don't want to support and add stuff you do - not just programs but WPS classes and file types too. It's your choice, not "theirs"...

To make things easier, open 'config.sys' and locate "SET BIGICONS=", then change the path to point at your icons folder. While your folder can be anywhere, the final product (say, 'DGicons') should probably go in 'x:\sys\icons' for consistency.


It will be a few more weeks until I have something to test.  Everything was such a mess, I can see why it hasn't gone much further.

I have made lots and lots of new PNGs to replace the icons that have no PNG equivalent.  Making entries in the script for system objects that were not included along with new PNGs..  Still working on the text structure to something more easier to work with.  Renaming icons so a person can know what icon it affects.

Now up to 323 PNG icons from a little over 200. I am thinking it may be close to 400 pngs when I am done.

I was wondering, if problems occur after testing, can I boot up and replace with an earlier WPShell backup before testing with another script?

Can one add comments to the text like one does with rexx scripts?

PNGs can be used if Dynamic icons are selected in the folder properties menu. There is no default PNG for each folder and icon.  You have to manually select a PNG for a PNG to be used for each program object or folder..

David, it's far simpler and "automated" than that. In x\SYS\ICONS\BIGICONS there are over 200 png icons. Their use is controlled by 'bigicons.txt' (also in that directory). It's broken down into categories like WPS class, file type, object ID, etc. Make a backup copy then have at it (you may want to deliver a customized version with your png icon sets).

To get custom icons enabled, goto 'System Setup->Workplace Shell->Icon Size' (it's the very last tab) and check "Use custom icons". On that page, you can also make Dynamic icons the default and set the default size. You have to restart for custom icons to kick in. The other settings are live and happen immediately.

Note: the "default" default size produces icons whose physical size is the same as they would be if you were running your display at 1024*768. For example, at 1920*1080 you need a 56*56 pixel icon to get the same physical size you'd get at 1024*768 using a 40 pixel icon. At UHD (3840*2160), icons have to be 112 pixels to be that size.
Rich, it may be some time before I have anything ready to try.  I noticed all the icons listed are not in the bigicons folder.  The folders are easy.  It is the other icons.  Building pngs I don't see  takes time.  If I am right, I can even add more program icons to the text and these icons won't be available unless the program is installed.  I am also reducing the icons to 80x80.  This is a good middle of the road size to lower or increase.

Here is what I am doing.
Resizing icons
Making new icons
renaming to reflect the size and make icon search more easier
rearranging some of the text to make things easier to find and updating the icon names
Then when finished, I have to hope everything works.  I am a bad typist, mistakes will be made

I backed up the old big icons folder.

The new bigicons folder will contain all the newly updated pngs.  I started with the yellow folder set although I like the red and black also.  Once the icons other than folders are complete, it should be a lot easier make other folder sets.

Question.  There seems to be a lot of repetition on the open office icons.  There are all kinds of different icon names using the same icons.  It seems a lot of these are repetition.  Is it me or is there a reason for this?

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