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Setup & Installation / Re: Installing OS/2 on 320GB disk
« on: May 05, 2016, 03:47:45 pm »
Hi

@Andi B

The 2 laptops are Intel based and the 2 desktops are AMD based. There is not that much that is common across the hardware.

Both Desktops have multiple boot volumes.
Both laptops and 1 bootable installation on each Desktop have eCS2.2 installed, the other bootable installations on the Desktops are eCS2.1 with various upgrades applied to both.
None of the systems have DOS/Win16 support installed - I would be surprised if that made a difference.
None of the systems have the "lost volume at boot" problem - or problems forcing a chkdsk at boot - when using JFS-109.05

All systems have XWP installed.
Reading the readme at the url you supplied I see there may be a problem with earlier builds of XWP and current builds of ACPI with regard to shutdown. I will experiment with this build of XWP and JFS-1.09.06 to see if that "cures" the "lost volume at boot" problem. I will have to report back on this in a few days - or less if it obviously does not fix the problem.

If the latest XWP does fix the problem I would still not recommend JFS-1.09.06 to anyone using bootableJFS on a "headless" server. I hope David revises his view on the /AUTOCHECK:+ switch and reinstates it in future JFS releases.

A digression but a further thought on XWP: When using Restart Desktop the option "Process all XWorkplace Startup folders" is checked by default. I know from posts in various ngs - and possibly on os2world - that I am not the only person who uses 2 XWP Startup folders: 1 for items to run on system startup and 1 for items to run when the Desktop is restarted. Can I suggest the default for this option be changed to  Unchecked in the future?


Regards

Pete









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Setup & Installation / Re: Installing OS/2 on 320GB disk
« on: May 05, 2016, 03:27:46 am »
Hi Andreas

The same problem on 2 different desktops and 2 different laptops?

No, it is not the hardware.

If the JFS driver itself is not at fault then I suspect that the driver is exposing a problem with other related system software.

I am inclined towards the JFS driver being at fault but suspect that may be because the os2ahci driver from AN is also a non-worker here.


Regards

Pete



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Setup & Installation / Re: Installing OS/2 on 320GB disk
« on: May 04, 2016, 10:15:11 pm »
Hi Andreas

Wish I knew what the cause of the occasional "lost" volume problem was exactly - all I know is that it is something that happens with the current AN JFS release and not with earlier versions of JFS.

The other thing wrong, as far as I am concerned, with the current AN JFS release is that it is no longer possible to force a chkdsk at boot. This means that if my "headless" server crashes running that build of JFS I would need to attach a spare monitor, keyboard and mouse and then boot from alternative media, eg an eCS install cd, in order to chkdsk the drive.

What a performance! - No, I'll stick with an earlier JFS that works without losing a volume during boot every now and again for no obvious reason and also has support for the /AUTOCHECK+* switch.


Regards

Pete



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Setup & Installation / Re: Installing OS/2 on 320GB disk
« on: May 04, 2016, 09:58:29 pm »
Hi John

Open a command line window in [boot]:\os2 and enter

bldlevel jfs.ifs


Regards

Pete

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Setup & Installation / Re: Installing OS/2 on 320GB disk
« on: May 04, 2016, 04:29:42 pm »
Hi John

Maybe if you go through the steps you are taking in trying to create a partition/volume someone will spot the problem.

I would not use JFS-1.09.06 to create a bootable volume myself - I would not use that JFS driver at all because I have found several problems with it the worst of which is that it can simply "lose" a volume at boot. I have been told this problem is more likely to be Shutdown related but as it only happens with  JFS-1.09.06 I have gone for the practical route of not using that driver.


Regards

Pete







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Hi Richard

Do not expect drives partitioned by Windows software to work properly with OS/2 based systems as they rarely do. I am not sure if that is the cause of the problem in this instance but would not rule it out.

If I have this right OS/2 systems "see" a USB Disk as a "container" which may or may not be partitioned - this "container" is specified in config.sys as 1 of the "/REMOVABLES:?" on the USBMSD.ADD line.

What should happen when you attach a usb disk with partitions: All partitions should be displayed in the Drives folder - unless a partition is setup as "Hidden" which x: obviously is not.

To eject the disk: Select 1 of those USB drive partitions, RMB, select Eject disk and *all* partitions on the disk are ejected at the same time - in theory. This is where it seems to go wrong for your system.

If using the latest/last IBM USB drivers I think I would revisit partitioning the disk and use either LVM or DFSee to do the job - but definitely not Windows/*nix/Mac software.

If using later possibly more experimental USB drivers you may want to try the re-partitioning step above before filing a bug report with the USB driver supplier/author.


A possibly silly question: Why partition a 4Gb drive at all? You could share it with Windows/linux/Mac by using the fat32 file system - not the best file system I would agree but usually works OK. You could use DFSee to "volumise" the drive giving it the correct partition type for fat32 before finding the format option and selecting fat32.


Regards

Pete









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Setup & Installation / Re: Installing OS/2 on 320GB disk
« on: April 29, 2016, 09:09:51 pm »
Hi John

You may want to consider splitting the drive into several volumes eg:-

boot - smallish volume for OS installation, 2Gb is more than enough space
data - probably the biggest volume; 320-2(boot)-100(apps)=218Gb?
apps - large enough for current apps plus space to spare for future apps - 100Gb?

Obviously size of volumes is something you will have to decide.

The above allows you to update/totally trash the boot volume without any worrying about your data and installed apps. Of course, you should still make regular backups of *all* volumes just in case of disk failure.


Regards

Pete


 

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Applications / Re: Firefox 38.2.1
« on: April 29, 2016, 08:55:08 pm »
Hi

I often find that when the flash plugin fails to load closing the browser and starting again the flash plugin now works.

@roberto

", delete with Firefox closed and retry."
Does not mean to use firefox to delete; means Delete when firefox is closed.


Regards

Pete


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Setup & Installation / Re: Partition table on this disk may be corrupt
« on: April 22, 2016, 03:54:12 am »
Hi JohnP

Using Windows tools to resize the partition and probably create the original partition is the cause of the problem.

If you want to keep your Win7 partition you will need to back it up, then use LVM to delete all partitions and recreate partitions keeping the existing sizes. Once you have finished your OS/2 install you can restore the Win7 partition.


Who needs a youtube video showing how to get "over technical" and possibly ruin your hard drive? - Not me, I Registered DFSee  :-)

Having said that I am sure that, like other people, I do not like to bother Jan with tasks that I should be able to accomplish without help. As an eg all the above tasks to make your hard drive OS/2 compatible can be carried out from within DFSee -LVM not required at all - but not having tried to backup and restore anything using DFSee myself I would welcome a video about that subject.

However, I suspect that could mean that Jan would have to consider withdrawing the time limited free download as videos on youtube could impact on his business - why Register for support if you can find it free on youtube?

There is a dFSee discussion group on Yahoo which may be of help https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dfsee-support/info


Regards

Pete

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Setup & Installation / Re: USB
« on: April 22, 2016, 03:32:25 am »
Hi JohnP

You need USBD.SYS for all USB devices except mouse and keyboard which require USBDHID.SYS.

Looks like I should put a check into USBcfg so that when a driver is selected by the user USBcfg checks that USBD.SYS, or USBHID.SYS in the case of mouse and keyboard, is already selected and if not displays a message warning the user - maybe even offers to "automatically" select the needed driver.


I'm guessing that was bldlevel 10.158 which worked for me but did not work or work as well for other people.

Ideally you want to get hold of the iBM USB updates that include USBMSD.ADD and USBCDROM.ADD buildlevel 10.162 as they are the IBM builds that work best. Sorry, not having purchased Warp4.5+ from IBM I do not know where to get those updates...


Regards

Pete

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Setup & Installation / Re: Partition table on this disk may be corrupt
« on: April 21, 2016, 08:12:09 pm »
Hi JohnP

What software was used to create the volumes/partitions on the disk? - most Windows and linux software is incompatible.

What size disk is involved?

You can download and use DFSee for *free*. What you pay for when you Register is the skillset of the developer who will help you fix the problems you report. If you do not Register you are on your own and will have to spend a bit (or in my case a lot) of time reading all the relevant documentation *before* attempting to fix even a simple problem. In the end I Registered and Jan was most helpful :-)


To get around your problem with OS/2s tools would probably required deleting existing partitions - backup first - and recreating partitions using LVM. However, if your disk is larger than 500Gb you will need DFSee to make the disk OS/2 compatible *before* you attempt to create partitions with LVM otherwise LVM will only "see" 500Gb of the disk.


Regards

Pete

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Setup & Installation / Re: USB
« on: April 21, 2016, 07:58:41 pm »
Hi

Also be aware that hcimonit.exe has problems on some systems and returns incorrect results; USBcfg does not use hcimonit.exe but queries the hardware directly and, so far, no one has reported incorrect results.


Regards

Pete

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General Discussion / Re: Difference between OS/2 and eCS
« on: April 21, 2016, 05:07:22 pm »
Hi Sergey

Moreover, eCS 2.2 "beta" is simply unusable.


As I am posting from a "simply unusable" ecS2.2beta2 I have to ask what problems you had?

I must admit that my eCS2.2beta2 installs are very basic: Advanced Install option with almost all extra software deselected - I already have or do not want the extra software offered during install.

Works for me  :-)


Regards

Pete



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Setup & Installation / Re: USB
« on: April 21, 2016, 04:43:50 pm »
Hi JohnP

You may want to try my little USB configuration application which simply "visualises" the config.sys usb statements allowing you to see what is installed with what options and make changes without hunting through the config.sys file using an editor - also includes a Help file with a USB MSD FAQ. You can find the app on hobbes http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=usbcfg&pushbutton=Search

You want the latest, 082, in either Warpin or Zip package.


As to what builds of USB drivers you should be using: -

1] I notice from other posts that you have an Arca Noae subscription so there are a lot of the drivers you should be using  :-)

2] for drivers not in the Arca Nae package use the last iBM supplied drivers; I guess that is mainly Drives (usb floppy/hard/flash/DVD/CD) so is build 10.162

Alternatively there are "experimental" packages available from Lars, I think this is the current release http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/system/drivers/misc/usbdrv202.zip


Regards

Pete

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Setup & Installation / Re: JFS boot hangs
« on: April 21, 2016, 04:24:32 pm »
Hi JohnP

My personal experience of JFS 1.09.06 from Arca Noae leads me to suggest you leave that package well alone.

I have 2 desktop systems and 2 laptops all running either eCS2.1 or 2.2 beta2 that this package fails to work on properly - so, No, you do not need eCS to use this driver.

The main problem  is that when using this package it can "lose" a volume at boot eg You know that you have a volume G: but during boot you notice that it does not display when JFS.IFS is loaded and when the system is booted the volume G: is not available. Sometimes the volume could be made available by simply running LVM and Exiting Saving changes - without making any changes. Other times it was necessary to reboot from another boot drive to recover the "lost" volume.

I suspect the above is related to the changes made to the way chkdsk happens at boot. This build of JFS.IFS does *not* support forcing a full chkdsk at boot (using the /AUTOCHECK:+ switch with either * or a drive letter eg /AUTOCHECK:+* for all jfs volumes ). So if your system needs a full chkdsk and JFS 1.09.06 does not recognize the need it is then necessary to boot from an external source eg an Install CD. Alternatively have a 2nd boot volume on the same drive that uses HPFS to avoid the necessity of hunting out the Install CD. If using OS/2 do you need to boot from floppies still?


Back to your boot up message about incorrect JFS.IFS: I suggest you contact Arca Noae and report the problem in the hope they have an answer.


Regards

Pete







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