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Programming / Re: Alternatives to compiling Rust in Firefox port OS/2
« Last post by Dave Yeo on Today at 04:10:31 am »
Yet, you probably know more then most of us, if only from hacking on the GCC source. There are people who seem to instinctively understand this stuff though, AZ who did the GCC 2.9x ports was one. IBM chased him down and payed him to do the first kLIBC GCC port, 3.22 or so for Mozilla. There was someone else who ported GCC back in the day for fun, a different port then EMX. So much software lost.
Applications / Re: Desktop Enhancement for WPS
« Last post by Dave Yeo on Today at 04:01:00 am »
Yea, OS/2 will try to invoke WinOS2 to run a PE executable, especially if you have installed Win32s. Usually fails due to 8.3 name issues in the path. I had an extension, downloadthemall or such that kept trying to run a Windows executable, all it did was fill up a log until I removed the executable.
This was one of the reasons that it was ill advised to install win32k.sys from Odin, it might have run hello.exe.
I also remember a browser flaw getting used to try to run C:\Windows\cmd.exe, which failed due to our browser having a bug and most people not having a C:\Windows\cmd.exe accessible. At that I've heard that most Windows malware can be defeated by not installing on C:
As for MS trying to monetize everything, it is a problem with our stock based system demanding endless growth instead of being happy with a good steady income.
Martin, I would welcome an alternate archive of OS/2 programs. I think it's an interesting bit of history. A well laid out archive would be a legacy of a legacy operating system. I think you are a good person to do it because you have studied archiving OS/2 material for years.
Applications / Re: Desktop Enhancement for WPS
« Last post by Doug Bissett on Today at 03:08:16 am »
Actually, a couple of years ago, I bought some WiFi capable "smart plugs", from Amazon. After a couple of days, i had a problem, where something, repeatably, crashed, while I was in Firefox. After I investigated, it was a program. called Hello.exe. Looking further, that is, apparently, one of those ransomeware things.  The, so called, smart plugs opened a path for the virus to be introduced into my computer. OS/2 just spit it out, with no damage. It did infect my router, but a reset to factory fixed that. Amazon did take them back, but nobody did anything else about it.

The "problem", today, is that perfectly valid software is classified as a "problem", simply because microsoft did not make a dollar, by "inspecting" the files.
Hey Dave,

Need a compiler expert who understands all these segments and stuff.

That rules me out then :P


Applications / Re: Desktop Enhancement for WPS
« Last post by Dave Yeo on Today at 01:09:19 am »
The weird thing is that generally our OS/2 files (excepting cmd) won't even load on modern Windows. I guess some DOS programs are LX and might load and be confused.
Anyways the odds of an OS/2 file having a virus is so close to zero that I wouldn't worry about it. So far the only virus I've had was one that infected the MBR that came on a floppy, a driver disk for some hardware I'd bought. WinOS2 actually spotted it and just had to rewrite the MBR. Strictly speaking it wasn't an OS/2 virus as it ran before an OS was installed.
Applications / Re: Desktop Enhancement for WPS
« Last post by Doug Bissett on May 14, 2021, 10:55:12 pm »
If microsoft didn't write it, or if the files were not submitted to microsoft so they can charge to "inspect" them, they will probably be classified as a virus, by the microsoft, so called, anti virus checkers. They are getting a LOT more aggressive at doing things like that, even with well known, third party, windows software (Avast, AVG, CCleaner, and probably more). Even worse, is that microsoft software will prevent such software from being installed, and will often just kill it when the user attempts to start it, if it is already installed. At least we don't need to worry about that.

Somebody, with very deep pockets, needs to haul them off to court.
Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« Last post by Martin Iturbide on May 14, 2021, 09:56:39 pm »
I don't like the Hobbes situation either. It's just to unsafe to rely on a single server. I'm glad that Ian's server exists and am not sure if we need another mirror.

I agree on not rely on a single server. I encourage to backup everything on the Internet Archive just in case.
About Hobbes: The long description is not correctly displayed in the current HTML interface. It's correct when being downloaded as file per FTP. Second, upload requires passive FTP and active FTP is not rejected. It would just create 0 B files.

The uploader decides himself which prior versions are deleted on archiving (moving it to the destination) by the 'Replaces' entry.

(I always keep main versions and for others I delete the prior ones. One reason is that I want to ensure that people always use the newest version. If something important doesn't work, I'll upload a new version as soon as possible. Another one is to keep the repository clean. The full list of official versions can be accessed on, where I have have more options with the web page to direct people to the latest version.)

Ian seems to keep old versions on his site (where he mirrors Hobbes plus gathers files from other sources, also those that wouldn't be available elsewhere).

I don't like the Hobbes situation either. It's just too unsafe to rely on a single server. I'm glad that Ian's server exists and am not sure if we need another mirror.
Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« Last post by Martin Iturbide on May 14, 2021, 05:38:59 pm »

I still have the "itchiness" to reorganize some files in hobbes, and even also some other places like OS2site.
But I hold back, some people may not like reorganizing and renaming of the files, some other may tell me "do not bother on that", and it is also a huge task.

Also there have been no reply from the hobbes administrator on my offer to help and have a quicker access to modify file descriptions of the database and been able to move files to the corresponding directory.

And also, it is big job to try organize all the OS/2 software available. From one side I think it is good to keep all the versions of the software, but from the other side I understand that some sites (like hobbes) should only have the latest version (with the exception of drivers). Times has change and storage space is not problem for OS/2 programs like it was on the past. (like my crazy OHFOWG and the OS2World Github (7GB) )

My concern with OS/2 preservation had been growing when I saw how old software disappears from the internet (some can not be found even on the waybackmachine). I don't want to delete anything. I hopefully will like to backup the old things with the old names in different items and later focus in the working apps, latest versions and renaming and moving the files.

What do you think?

- Should I try to make my own public file repository? If I try that I will need help, I don't want more server administration with that.
- Should I keep trying to improve hobbes order in this slow way of uploading files with .txt template file?
- Should I take care that "itchiness" with some other thing and forget this thing?

Ian, (he runs the os2site), your opinion is important for me. 

I also want to do something collaborative with the help of several people since it is a big task.


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